Need to move my Lathe to my home Has to come out of a basement.

[kkroger]

I have a Grizzly G4003G that currently resides in a basement without a walkout. Needs to come out of that basement up a stairs and around a corner into the garage. Here is what I was planning, make some Angle Iron Rails (think railroad track) and use some track wheels on caster plates to guide the thing on the stairs using as wide of a track as practical. and a Winch to hoist it up the stairs, I can use an Engine Hoist to take it off the stand, then move the stand pieces out and all the smaller stuff, attach the wheels and roll the thing across the floor to the rails get it lined up and the wheels/rails aligned. Hook up the hoist cable and drag it up the rails to the top where the engine crane can be attached again the unit lifted and swiveled as needed to get it to the truck. From there it will just be on the same plane to unload with the hoist and re-assemble on the stands when in place, then levelling it and getting power to it. I am moving my milling machine Saturday Morning. that should be cake it is in a garage instead of a basement.

I am open to suggestions too. So if anyone has any ideas let's hear em!

 

[slow]

how did it get down there originally?

 

[kkroger]

how did it get down there originally?

Gravity helped a lot... I believe they used a pivot point and lowered it down using a truck and a strap... Why? I don't have a clue... Wasn't present.

I can't afford to buy another one I just want mine back... (Think of it as a repo)

Had another idea to use a 5k fork truck and a chain hoist, get the machine to the bottom of the stairs, position fork tines over the stairwell above the stub wall that is another impediment, Hoist the machine to the tines then back up the fork truck and lower the thing to the bed of the truck...
Move the Lathe and the Fork Truck to my house and unload the thing.
Hertz Eq Rental will rent me a 5k for $219 a day...
If it works it is worth it and a lot less headache.

 

[EdT]

Take it apart. About five bolts will get the tailstock and the headstock off the base. Much more manageable pieces. Probably a couple of bolts will get the motor off too.

 

[tdkkart]

Read a story on one of the machinists boards about a guy who sent his wife off to her mother's for the weekend. She came home to that new kitchen floor she'd always wanted, after he'd cut a hole in the kitchen floor and installed his new mill in the basement through the patio door.

 

[iajonesy]

X2 on take it apart. One slip and you could have a pile of cast iron pieces in the basement. Why risk it?

Mike

 

[romoman]

I knew someone who had a full shop in the basement and they did it lowering things down the bulkhead with the stairs removed.

 

[ADSR]

Read a story on one of the machinists boards about a guy who sent his wife off to her mother's for the weekend. She came home to that new kitchen floor she'd always wanted, after he'd cut a hole in the kitchen floor and installed his new mill in the basement through the patio door.

lmao! that's hilarious!

 

[A_Pmech]

Read a story on one of the machinists boards about a guy who sent his wife off to her mother's for the weekend. She came home to that new kitchen floor she'd always wanted, after he'd cut a hole in the kitchen floor and installed his new mill in the basement through the patio door.

It was a Moore jig grinder, a Bridgeport, a cylindrical grinder, a surface grinder, a welding table and a few other things that went though the kitchen floor at his place.

Going through the floor:

 

[ADSR]

^^^lmao!!!!!!

 

[torched]

I move a lot of large heavy stuff like this. If it were me I would strip it down as much as possible including removal from base. Strap it to an appliance dolly and with two guys on the bottom to lift and push each step and one or two guys at the top to control and pull. It won't be fun but it's doable.

 

[jhn9840]

Hope he never needs to move his stuff back out.

jhn9840
John


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[bmxdad]

Even has a small optical comparator !!

 

[Divcod]

Used a company that specialized in moving safes to move two machine tools, set up was about and hour and out in 15 minutes. Best $250 one could spend. Not sure who might be in your area but assume there should be someone who handles heavy moves. A lot less than fixing in damage that might occur. Just my thought.

 

[Shadowdog500]

Used a company that specialized in moving safes to move two machine tools, set up was about and hour and out in 15 minutes. Best $250 one could spend. Not sure who might be in your area but assume there should be someone who handles heavy moves. A lot less than fixing in damage that might occur. Just my thought.

+1, you hire the right guys who have the muscle, the right equipment, and experience moving stuff like this and they will get that out of there no sweat.

Chris

 

[Shadowdog500]

...
I can't afford to buy another one I just want mine back... (Think of it as a repo)

What's the story on that??

How did your lathe wind up in someone else's basement?

Chris

 

[crerus75]

It was a Moore jig grinder, a Bridgeport, a cylindrical grinder, a surface grinder, a welding table and a few other things that went though the kitchen floor at his place.

I forget who this was, but I've seen it before. Didn't he leave the hatch in the floor accessible for future, um, additions?

Robert Bastow (Teenut) on the old rec.crafts.metalworking usenet group did the same thing:

 

[Lippyp]

A French guy who lived round the corner from one house i lived in rebuilt a Triumph Spitfire in his basement, they took the engine back out and the body off and carried it through the door sideways and up the stairs, chassis, then engine and then body and reassembled it on the drive! Nice chap, gave me a free hardtop for my spitfire which is how I met him.

 

[Kevin54]

It was a Moore jig grinder, a Bridgeport, a cylindrical grinder, a surface grinder, a welding table and a few other things that went though the kitchen floor at his place.

Going through the floor:

Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do

 

[kkroger]

What's the story on that??

How did your lathe wind up in someone else's basement?

Chris

Had a fire stored in garage he moved to basement was going to buy it never did.

 

[ModelTBrian]

Working on a Drug Task force, we remove large safes from basements. A good tow truck driver can do a lot with the boom and block and tackle.

 

[csp]

Had a fire stored in garage he moved to basement was going to buy it never did.

Wait, what???

 

[Shadowdog500]

Had a fire stored in garage he moved to basement was going to buy it never did.

Unbelievable! He should either pay you for the thing or pay to have it removed from his basement. I'm wondering if he intentionally put it there to make it more trouble than it was worth for you to reposses.

Chris

 

[SteveH-CO]

Be careful rolling dollies with heavy parts (like a wood stove) across tile or slate floors - cracks can result. I would cover the floor surfaces with Masonite or thin plywood.

 

[R.Anderson]

Take it apart. About five bolts will get the tailstock and the headstock off the base. Much more manageable pieces. Probably a couple of bolts will get the motor off too.

If it were me I would do this and use a appliance dolly to move the head and bed in or out of a basement.

Hmm . . . he did put it down in his basement after agreeing to buy it and then bailed out on the deal. So if you want a little payback put a hole in his kitchen floor and hoist the lathe out, and say you will pay to have a new floor put in afterwards what goes around comes around.

But in all fairness he got it down there, so its only fair that he should have to get it out in the same condition, but if your asking this it must mean the guy refuses or does not have the means to do so.

 

[farmall400]

That jig bore in the cellar just brought back some bad memories. When moore tool closed up the original plant we got the job of removing the thread grinders from the cellar. I believe they were ex-cello's. The story goes when they were originaly delivered, the factory installed them in pieces. I think they were about 10k-15k pounds complete. The floor above wouldn't support a forklift and the machine together. We ended up cutting a hole in the floor and using 4 chain falls (manual type!) to hoist them up. After that we rolled them by pipe to where we could pick them up with the lift. It was about the hottest day of the year if I remember right.

 

[jimbbski]

I moved a Logan 12X24 lathe through my back door and down the stairs to my basemen nearly 20 years ago. It was a straight shot and the lathe was complete with stand other then the tail stock, about 900 lbs. There were some wood bolted to the legs and I just skied the lathe down the stairs. I controlled it with a 2 ton chain fall lowering it as I and two other people guided it so it didn't **** or tip.

I plan on getting it out when that day comes by mounting some 4X4's to the legs like skis and then bolting steel wheels to the wood. Then I will build a track out of 2X4's with sides and cross ties to keep it all ridged. The same chain fall will pull it up the stairs.

My next shop will be at ground level so I won't have to go through anything like this.

 

[Lippyp]

Just be really ****** careful whatever you decide to do. Shifting this stuff is dangerous. I used to know a guy that drove a big rig for a company that did this stuff for a living, moving heavy machinery. He was introduced to the company by someone who told him "You can tell Jack Nobbs guys are good, they've all got most of their fingers still" Very easy to lose fingers and even get killed shifting this sort of weight around especially when lifting it. Make sure whatever you use to drag it upstairs is more than rated for the weight and is in good condition.

Heaviest thing I've moved was an upright piano with a cast iron frame and that was heavy enough for me, out of our old house down half a dozen steps then into the new one again via half a dozen steps. Oh and our antique safe was interesting to move too.

 

[joe49]

Hire it out to the pros.

 

[Kracin]

why not disassemble it as far as you can, and move the frame seperate to spare damage to handles and other things? probably going to want to give it a once over after moving it anyway