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Mtrhd0024

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Right, so I'm new to this site, this would be my first post here, and I hope its in the right place :lol_hitti

I've been looking all over the Internet for ideas on different garages that people have built, someone linked me here today, and I figured it would be a good idea to join! I've already seen a lot of nice garages and gotten a few good ideas for things I'd like to impliment.

The deal is, I'm about to move, and we really need a lot more garage space than we have. I'm 18, and still living at home for the minute. The house I lived in when I was born was designed by my dad, and it had a two car garage, plus a full basement underneath the house which was 2 cars wide, 2 cars deep on one side, and 3 cars deep on the other side, for a total of a 5 car basement. That coupled with the 2 car garage up top was plenty of space for us.

We moved out of that house and have only had 2 car garages plus a 12x20 shed since then, and our car, motorcycle, and boat arsenal has only increased.

Currently the plan is to buy a house on a 1 acre + piece of land with a two car garage already attached, and then to build an 8 car garage/workshop behind the house. One of the houses we're looking at possibly buying is on more than 10 acres. Currently the car count stands at 7, and the motorcycle count is more than 20, so we really need the space.

I've done a few basic floor-plan drawings in Photoshop which I will post in a moment, but I'll do my best to describe the garage as well.

We want an 8 car garage that is 4 bays wide and 2 bays deep, with a workshop, bathroom, and multipurpose room added on to one end. Each of the garage doors as well as the bays will be over-sized (gotta fit big stuff in there!) and part of the garage will likely have a second story. Each space needs to be big because we'll be working on stuff, not just storing cars. We would like plenty of electrical outlets, as well as compressed air plumbed into the building with a large central compressor.

Here's a basic floor-plan layout (not to scale) of the first floor:
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The loft is over the second set of car bays at the back of the garage. In reality it is more of a 6 car garage because the 2 bays at the back left side of the garage are taken up by the stairs, but that's okay because we can put motorcycles back there. We would like each of the supporting pillars (4 total) to house a couple electrical outlets, as well as quick disconnects for the plumbed air, which would allow us to easily access any of the "8" car bays.

The workshop area would likely have workbenches on 2 sides, and there would need to be space for 2 full sized roll-away tool chests and one shorter one. We've got a grinder, drill press, table saw, anvil, welder, compressor, and lots of other things which we would like to try and find space for. The only thing tool wise we would need to get would be a lift. (hopefully a 2 post lift) Basically we just wanna stuff it layed out and get things organized so we don't have to set each tool up individually each time we want to use it. We've got all the tools, we just lack the space.

As far as the bathroom goes, it would be nice to have a toilet, sink, and at least a stall type shower so that when you get real dirty in the garage you can shower before going back in the house.

The multipurpose room would likely have counters and such in it, as well as a large laundry sink for washing large objects.

The second story will be more of a balcony, for either storing a few boxes, or we might make it a "chilling" area for relaxing in a more "man oriented" fashion :beer:

Layout of the second floor:
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Its pretty simple.

The other thing we were debating was to add a room above the workshop and bathroom/multipurpose room so that we could store stuff. The only downside to that is you would loose the "open air" feel in the workshop unless the ceilings were above 10ft.

The floor-plan for the 2nd story would then look like this:
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Anyway, that was quite the first post, sorry its so long! :lol_hitti Just give me ideas, constructive criticism, tell me what you think, etc etc. Open to any ideas, and suggestions from people who have done this before!

Thanks!
 
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First off....welcome.....

Are you moving with your dad? Or is this just for you?

In any case....many of us would like to have the resources to do what you are doing.....

I think you are headed somewhat in the right direction.

If I may suggest.....how about putting the workshop/bathroom/multipurpose room in the middle? That way you are only half as far to either end of the garage....then put the 'hand out room' upstairs with a loft as you noted....a great way to hand out and admire your collection....on both sides....
 
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Mtrhd0024

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First off....welcome.....

Are you moving with your dad? Or is this just for you?

In any case....many of us would like to have the resources to do what you are doing.....

I think you are headed somewhat in the right direction.

If I may suggest.....how about putting the workshop/bathroom/multipurpose room in the middle? That way you are only half as far to either end of the garage....then put the 'hand out room' upstairs with a loft as you noted....a great way to hand out and admire your collection....on both sides....

Thanks for the welcome!

And yea, I'm moving with my dad, I still live with my mom/dad/sister. I'm starting at a community college next year, and then after a year or so I'll be moving out to go to a proper university, so I've got a couple more years to enjoy the garage. :bounce:

Can you explain your suggestions/changes again? I didn't quite understand what you meant... What do you mean by "hand out room"? I'm open to anything, so don't be afraid to say, thats why I've posted! :) haha.
 
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I figured while I was at this you guys would appreciate seeing some pictures of my grandfathers garage(s)

He unfortunately passed very suddenly in January, but he loved collecting cars very much, and had two attached garages on his house, as well as a separate garage/shop about 15 minutes from his house.

Here's the attached garages:
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Sorry this photo is blurry

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Inside back corner.

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The luggage rack on his hummer was rubbing the weatherstripping on the top of the garage. Tight fit!

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Here you can sorta see the second attached garage on a completely seperate wing of the house, sorry its sort of a useless picture but its just a plain 2 car garage. Its carpeted though which is a little strange but no work was ever done in it. There's space for 2 cars in this garage, and 6 in the other garage, so 8 cars total in the attached garage.

Now for the big garage:
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Sorry for the blur again. Took these pictures with a veryy cheap camera!

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Beautiful car ruined by my photography :bounce:

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Parents drove this to and from their wedding :)
 
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I meant "Hang out room"....but it would be a great place to 'hand out refreshements'.....

Nice cars.....it's obvious that you are excited about them by the shaking......he he

On your garage....put the work shop in the middle so that you have 4 bays on each side. This keeps the central area....central....everything closer to the tools and benches...

Then, on top of that you have the loft room....or "hang out room"....walls could be optional...or, if you had walls on the upstairs, lots of glass.....

This lets you look down at what is going on and it means you have plenty of height.....
 

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Wow - your Grandfather was a very lucky man in life - I hope he didn't die too early and got to enjoy all these toys...May I ask how old he was?

One things for sure - your Grandfather looks like he preffered excellence. Saying that, I think he'd take you out and shoot you for the photo's!!:lol_hitti

Any cars coming your way? My Dad passed and left me a 66 Valiant Signet that we had just done to the nines. I sold it two years later to pay off a CC - dumb mistake of youth. I have since learned - my good friend, an older gentleman who I bought my house from and shared a love of cars with, had a nice collection. I bought my 46 Merc PU from his estate as his son knew I liked it. I'll never sell it!:thumbup:

Thanks for the photos!
 
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Mtrhd0024

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I meant "Hang out room"....but it would be a great place to 'hand out refreshements'.....

Nice cars.....it's obvious that you are excited about them by the shaking......he he

On your garage....put the work shop in the middle so that you have 4 bays on each side. This keeps the central area....central....everything closer to the tools and benches...

Then, on top of that you have the loft room....or "hang out room"....walls could be optional...or, if you had walls on the upstairs, lots of glass.....

This lets you look down at what is going on and it means you have plenty of height.....

Haha yea the cars are nice. I've driven many of them before as well, my grandpa was always very generous in that respect.

Ah right yea I get what you mean. Hmm yea I could just have tools kind of up against the front and back wall in the center so that its easy to get to.

The only problem I can think of with this idea is that if you're working on something that produces lots of dust, dirt, sparks, etc, you want to keep it away from your cars. Had a similar idea to just use the back wall as the workbench area, but my dad suggested that creating a defined "shop" area would keep the mess and damage to cars/bikes to a minimum. As long as the shop floor is smooth and level we could also wheel the roll-away tool chests around to the car we were working on.

As far as the loft being a hang out area, thats what we were thinking, put a table, chairs, a fridge, and a few other things up there to just chill. It could also be the only truely "finished" part of the garage, i.e. have it drywalled, hang pictures and signs, and put up models. My dad has a collection of about 100 1/18th scale model motorcycles that he has collected over the years, and he would like to have a dedicated place them, so this could be the place to display them. The other thing I've decided i'm going to add is a computer. I've got some spare computers lying around so I'll just build a basic one to browse the internet and occationally print stuff on. The amount of times I've had to go inside to refer to something on the internet would amaze you! Its a great tool that most people wouldn't think to have in their garage!

One of the things about this build is that it will probably be built over a period of time. Once we get the structure up, we can finish it in our own time and add stuff like plumbed compressed air, laundry sinks, lifts, etc later.

Also, does anyone have a building material they would recommend? I'm pretty sure we will want the garage to somewhat match our house, so siding, brick, etc may need to be added. Dad suggested a cinder block building as opposed to a a steel framed building because I think he figures it would be easier to finish on the inside but any suggestions?

I just started thinking dimentions, and 36 x 80 sounds about right for what we want to do. Does that seem reasonable? That would mean we could add four 12 x 12 garage doors with 2.5ft in between each one, and then have 22ft of space on the end for the shop/toilet/multipurpose room. A 12 x 6 bathroom would be plenty big, and that would mean a 12 x 16 multipurpose room and a 24 x 22ft workshop.

With that in mind, can anyone shout out some rough price estimates for what we might expect to spend?

Sorry for all the questions, as you can see I like to write my thoughts out in lots of detail! :lol_hitti haha! Thanks again for everyones help!
 
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Wow - your Grandfather was a very lucky man in life - I hope he didn't die too early and got to enjoy all these toys...May I ask how old he was?

One things for sure - your Grandfather looks like he preffered excellence. Saying that, I think he'd take you out and shoot you for the photo's!!:lol_hitti

Any cars coming your way? My Dad passed and left me a 66 Valiant Signet that we had just done to the nines. I sold it two years later to pay off a CC - dumb mistake of youth. I have since learned - my good friend, an older gentleman who I bought my house from and shared a love of cars with, had a nice collection. I bought my 46 Merc PU from his estate as his son knew I liked it. I'll never sell it!:thumbup:

Thanks for the photos!

Haha thats the one thing that keeps me from being extremely sad about his passing is knowing he really enjoyed his life! So yes, he certainly did enjoy his cars! He was 86, and still living life to the full! I've never known another person who enjoyed life like my grandfather!

He was living alone at home and fell, thats about all we know. My uncle couln't get hold of him on the phone for 24 hours and finally drove to his house where he discovered him uncontious. He spend about 2 weeks in a coma in the hospital before he passed.

He had just bought himself a 2007 Jaguar S-Type the week he fell, and a month before that he was trying to ride one of his motorbikes down the road. If it hadn't of been for my uncle stopping him, he would have done it as well! He then went and bought a quad because that was the closest thing to a motorbike we'd let him ride.

As far as what happened to the cars... It makes me sick just thinking about it. Lets just say, when his first wife died years ago (my dads real mother) he ended up marrying a bit of a golddigger. (unknown to him) He had owned some of those cars for 45 years (the Amphicar for example, was purchased brand new when my dad was 8 years old!) It had 1,600 origional miles on it when it was sold. Well after about 20 years of marriage, my step-grandma told him he'd better get rid of all his cars immediatly or risk divorce. in late 2007, He sold all the classics off in no-reserve auctions (at the request of her) and got 1/4-1/3 their actual value for them. He then gave each of us one of the modern cars of our choice. Then she ended up divorcing him anyway, and most of the money from his car sales magically disappeared. :mad::mad:

So yea, long story, but you can understand why I'd feel sick. When he died he only had 6 cars to his name, so each of the 3 brothers got two. We got a Lexus GX470, a 1903 Oldsmobile Curved Dash replica, and I believe we're also getting the Hummer lmao! But yea, if it hadn't been for her, we would own some quite interesting cars, and probably need a bit more garage space then we're already looking for! He also had another house with another garage, and at one point he had a hanger with a Cessna Skymaster but I don't have pictures of them. He would buy and sell cars like no one i've ever seen, every time I went to his house he had something different. The only thing that never changed were the cars he really loved (corvette, jaguar XK8, nsx) and his classic cars, everything else he would trade in for something different when he got tired of it!

I do understand that cars really aren't the most important thing in the world, but its not just that the cars are gone, its the circumstances they were sold, and the distress she caused for my grandfather that really gets to me.

Anyway, you asked, you heard :bounce: sorry for the long post and the very off topic reply, as well as a lil bit of a rant! I try not to think about that woman too much anymore as you can probably now understand! :lol_hitti
 
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