Needle nose pliers?

[PRH44]

PRH, I had to cut my fish tape when it got stuck in the wall. No problem for my Klein linesman pliers. One pair is a D213-9NE and one is D2000-9NE. What's the difference?

I have 200 series with a notch in the cutting knives from cutting a fish tape. My D2000 series have done this several times no marks. From my experience I do believe the 2000 has a harder edge.
The 200 series was purchased in the last 3 years.

 

[jeffmoss26]

Interesting...not going to do a test though, LOL.
I also have several OLD pairs of Klein linesman...all marked M. Klein and Sons.

 

[PRH44]

Interesting...not going to do a test though, LOL.
I also have several OLD pairs of Klein linesman...all marked M. Klein and Sons.

I would love to do a test with several pliers just to see if any one wants to donate.
I did call Klein today and they stated the 2000 series induction harding process is different from the 200 series.
the 2000 actually receives a harder knife edge. Then they told me that the trade off is the 2000 is not as sharp. The 200 series allegedly has a slightly sharper knife edge. I thought this to be interesting because I never heard of it, I certainly never noticed one cutting copper better than the other. Of course I never had one new of each type and tried them side by side. It must be very slight.

I noticed you have several of the bell issued pliers very cool.

Paul

 

[HandyManny]

Are you talking about the klein D2000 series Journeyman line? I believe there lower end stuff isn't hardened steel and only good for copper and aluminum.

I stopped buy Lows today and looked at there Channellock's and knipex they both where almost perfectly ground. Menards must have got an order of Vodka specials.

Well the 2000 series may well be hardened steel, but when you buy Channellock you get a tough tool regardless. With Channellock there is no softer steel series or a more expensive hardened steel series, you get a tough tool regardless.

 

[HandyManny]

When purchasing Klein pliers the 2000 series steel is harder. I use the HD2000-9NE side cuts daily. I have cut bolts, nails, fish tapes and beat with them and they hold up.
I have some 200 series that have failed to cut 1/4" fish tapes.

Yeah but my point is that you don' have to go one step up with Channellock because there is no one step up, it's all tough as the 2000 series from Klien. Not sure why Klein has two different series of tools. With Channellock you don't have to guess or pay more, they make a tough hardened tool in their basic line and Code Blue line, only difference is the comfort handles.

 

[PRH44]

I think very highly of Channel lock slip joint pliers as I have many of them and they have served me very well through the years. I cant really testify about channel lock linesman, needle nose, diagonal cutters or the code blue stuff. I like the way they look and they do appear to be a well made plier. My son was thinking about purchasing some of the linesman's for work. It will interesting to see how they compare.

 

[HandyManny]

I think very highly of Channel lock slip joint pliers as I have many of them and they have served me very well through the years. I cant really testify about channel lock linesman, needle nose, diagonal cutters or the code blue stuff. I like the way they look and they do appear to be a well made plier. My son was thinking about purchasing some of the linesman's for work. It will interesting to see how they compare.

Having used both Kleins and Channellock I can tell you from my experience with both I'd chose Channellock again everytime if given a choice. The vast majority of my pliers have remained Channellock. I think I own and use nearly every type of plier they make in their basic and specialty line.

 

[Coach James]

Hate to break it to you guys, but don't be surprised if Klein outsources a bunch of their products overseas very soon. The Klein manufacturing plant is about 3 miles from my house and is just about shuttered.

http://www.suntimes.com/business/9351391-420/klein-tools-closing-2-subuurban-plants.html

The article said Klein built a new factory in Texas to replace the two closing down in Illinois.

Coach

 

[OEXL16B]

You guys are missing out on some fantastic nose pliers. They look short in the picture, but they're actually pretty long at 9 inches overall.