New 30x36x10 pole building questions

[sapcpo]

Howdy , I have a new Amish built pole barn and I have a few questions about finishing off the inside. It’s going to be used for half man cave and half garage. It’s 30x36x10 ft . I want to insulate and put drywall up, and a wood stove for heat. Things that come to mind are the best way to frame and insulate the inside. The posts are 6x6 eight feet apart. Some people say not to do vertical framing and don’t attach it to the floor. The floor is not poured yet , it will be all concrete. What is the best way to frame the walls? Should the walls in the middle of garage be attached to the overhead trusses? This is western NY so we have nice cold winters and I’m concerned about the heaving or movement of the floor that would be floating inside of the framework of the pole barn. Just how much will this movement be and how it affects my structure is what I’m worried about. So if you guys have advice on this or have done this already I would love to hear about it.

 

[Slowgsr]

Mines 13ft high. I just framed up between the poles with 2x4s @16", crowned em. R14 roxul, then vapor barrier. Then sheeted with 5/8 type x. Attic got R14 roxul, vapor then strapped at 16 in oc prior to drywall. I then blew in cellulose to r60 in the attic.

I heat it all winter here, no cracks in the board, been 5yr. Most heatloss via up, and your roll up doors are like r5. Main thing is keeping your vapor barrier tight. No holes. Good weather stripping.

If I could have I would have loved to spray an inch of closed cell first to really air seal the building.

 

[sapcpo]

Did you attach the walls to the floor?any floor movement?

 

[Slowgsr]

I sure did attach them.

No slab movement, but I use a tube heater. The floor probably stays warm enough to keep frost away, good drainage, and grading helps keep water away from the building too.

 

[GJuny]

Simpson fasteners makes a slide clip that allows you to attach the interior walls to the trusses while allowing vertical movement. Trusses can shrink and bow up in the middle over time on longer spans. There are online details for this condition that you can search on how to fasten framing and drywall.

 

[lakeroadster]

Check out my build thread link in my signature line below sapcpo...

I use floating wall construction in my barn, since you're in a cold climate that's a wise move for you too. The construction techniques I used are detailed in the thread.

There is a good reason why the call them "Floating Slabs".

Good luck with your build.

John

 

[sapcpo]

Thanks for the advice everyone , I will check out your posting lake roadster
Wow Lakeroadster, I went to your post like you said while typing this and wow! That is very detailed and loaded with pics. I will read it through tonight. Looks like I’ll get a lot of information from it.
Thanks again!

 

[OptionalStop]

I'm in WNY too and currently building my pole barn. Almost ready to start getting the floor prepped for concrete. I'm going with the "bookshelf framing" technique using horizontal 2 x 6 boards between the posts every 24" going up the wall. I will run my 24" wide fiberglass batts between these, then vapor barrier. Doing it this way also allows for extra studs in the walls for cabinets or whatever. I'm not sure if I will install a 2 x 6 on the bottom at the floor - but my slab will be insulated and radiant heated so movement may not be a huge concern.

 

[ADV Motorrad]

Sapcpo and OptionalStop, do you mind me asking who you used for construction? My wife and I are moving to Ontario (NY) and I’ll finally have space to build the shop I need. I don’t want to skimp on things that can’t be changed later, but also need to do this on a bit of a budget.

Thanks!

 

[sapcpo]

Thanks guys for the input. I used an excellent Amish crew for my frame and steel. Great job. But these guys are limited to where they go, as most Amish builders.

 

[LifeLongWNYer]

Sapcpo, understood on the traveling distance that the Amish will go... I'm wondering where in WNY you are, is if the south of Rochester is too far from them, if they know of other Amish who might be closer.




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