New addition not uniform with old roof

[nditiz1]

Looking for some opinions with this. I have a 20x25 garage addition. I thought the roof lines would be uniform so that the gutter from the existing garage would connect and flow through to the new garage. It doesn;t look like this is going to happen. Do you think it will still look ok with this higher roof overhang?

 

[ducksface]

Didn't your draftsman say anything when you presented the idea to him?
Four roof lines, Three roof lines far removed from one another?
The whole thing doesn't exactly have curb appeal.

I know this is harsh but I'd completely rethink that addition and match garage door heights and match roof angles.

 

[Stuart in MN]

Have you asked your contractor about it? Maybe he just isn't done framing it out, but now is the time to find out before it's too late to do anything about it.

I assume the peak of the existing garage will be extended over so it dies into the new roof, so rain water will drain away properly?

 

[nditiz1]

@ducksface - the architect came up with the design. The final picture has a porch on the front of the house. All the garage doors will be the same height. My issue is with the gutters not being at the same level tying in both garages.

@Stuart in MN - yes the overframe will carry over from the existing to the new.

Here is what the finished product is supposed to look like

 

[SALIV8]

Did you approve the prints? I’d double check those first.

And I like the different styles myself. Good looking home.

But the framing is not the same as the drawing shows and the doors look taller (the header is higher than existing garage) as well as gutters. But back to what do the blueprints say?

 

[southalabama]

I would have a meeting with the contractor and architect on site and say wtf?

Drawings look good. Framing looks off but the devil is in the details. Have the blueprints handy at your meeting. The drawings or elevation could be off. Something isn’t right.

To paraphrase and old saying if your eyes says it’s level it’s level.

You noticed something isn’t right because - something isn’t right. Where the fault lies is to be determined.

 

[bad_idea]

I'm not a carpenter, but I did frame my garage so I have some idea of framing.

It looks like the trusses can be continued down to the same height as the existing soffit. It will increase the overhang over that side door, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. It may just be the builder isn't done framing it out yet.

I would start by asking the builder what's up. No need to get the architect in on it yet IMHO.

 

[nditiz1]

@bad_idea - This is what I am going with. They are going to extend it down and the overhang will be 2' instead of 1'

As far as the drawings go I'm getting static from the architect stating that the truss co. needs to have a field engineer measure on site. I can't imagine every truss co sends someone to field measure, but more so goes off the plans and the measurements sent by the GC. I'm going to talk with the truss co. The framers thinks that if the heel of the truss was lowered it would have created the 1' overhang at the correct height.

 

[bradpac]

With the door framing heights and the roof height, it looks like the walls themselves are all too tall.

 

[nditiz1]

@bradpac - The wall height is inline with the top of the existing garage wall. They actually cut the top plate of the existing garage to rest these trusses on top. The new wall is inline with that height.

 

[ddurrett896]

Is that a man door opening?

Sister a 2x4 to the truss to extend the tails, getting the fascia flush with the house fascia. This connects the gutter and adds additional overhand when entering the door when it's raining.

 

[nmk_61802]

@bradpac - The wall height is inline with the top of the existing garage wall. They actually cut the top plate of the existing garage to rest these trusses on top. The new wall is inline with that height.

My guess is the existing garage has standard trusses, the new looks to have energy heels. Which is adding additional height.

 

[GMCGarage]

You hired professionals (Arch, contractor) to have it done right. Before another nail is set, I would get them all together with the prints, and say, "Tell me its correct"

 

[imjustdave]

Is it me or will the valley be in a weird location? I'm thinking if you extend the tail on the last few tails, then your going to have to cut into the current garage . No expert just trying to visualise

 

[yeldogt]

Something is clearly off .... was this a "real" architect ? With full drawings?

Getting the Facia correct is going to make it low on the new structure -- do you really want the single doo there?

Whoever framed that should have seen that coming a long time ago? You had a post on this a while back .. what you are trying to do is tricky.

 

[CraigStu]

Maybe I am looking at this wrong. Extending those front three trusses to get the gutter down lower will make the overhang wider than it is on the right side of the new garage. Maybe that will work out as extra protection for the man door. You could also go w/ what you have, put a gutter on it that is closed at the front and open at the back. It will drain out onto the old roof and run down into the old gutter.

 

[Bent Handle]

I don’t know **** about framing, but it clearly isn’t going to look like the rendering they provided. What’s the point of creating the image if that’s not what it’s going to look like. Can they make a drawing of the existing options so you can see what it will look like? I’d prefer the idea of having a closed gutter draining into the old gutter instead of trying to match them up. Where is the water going? It looks like the downspout was there the new garage is? I think matching them up with a wider overhang will look like a mistake.

 

[PWC Repair]

It looks to me like the top of the man door and garage door is all off by about the height of the stem wall. Reckon somebody forgot to account for that?

 

[matt_i]

I would make sure whatever you do to rectify the left side is duplicated on the right side to make it symmetrical.

My opinion of the failure mode is that the truss was designed initially as "a triangle".

The truss company can't just build a triangle, they have pieces of wood to join together. When you get the .pdf from the truss company, they show how its going to be built. As was mentioned, the "energy heel" construction was never driven back to the original drawings to update them as a 2nd interative cycle.

I feel like that's the architect's responsibility to get the practical considerations from truss mfg and work that into their drawings before issuing the "final" versions which could have compensated in wall-height, and I would tell them that but not expect any leverage to drive reparations at this point.

 

[gtsgarage]

You hired professionals (Arch, contractor) to have it done right. Before another nail is set, I would get them all together with the prints, and say, "Tell me its correct"

This right here is what you need to do. If they are going to point fingers let them do it in front of each other.

 

[Bent Handle]

It looks to me like the top of the man door and garage door is all off by about the height of the stem wall. Reckon somebody forgot to account for that?

It does kind of look that way

 

[CombatNinja]

Whatever you do, don't wait until the finishing is being done to see if it looks right. Stop them ASAP and get this figured out. It may be able to be modified now without too much heartburn but finished could be another story.

 

[infinkc]

Wow surprised you didn’t keep the roof lines in the same direction. Sorry but it just looks like an addon. Yea check with the contractor and make sure they line up as per your rendering.

 

[NUTTSGT]

It looks to me like the top of the man door and garage door is all off by about the height of the stem wall. Reckon somebody forgot to account for that?

It does kind of look that way

Kinda looks like to me as well.


However, if the gutter for that section is above the other, I wouldn't care too much. A short down spout and dump it right into the lower.

 

[The Cobbler]

yes, to me it looks like the wall is too tall , the doors are taller than the original . something went wrong

 

[kelpaso1]

Agree. Looks like the walls are about a foot too high? Somebody screwed up.