NEW Basic Epoxy Low Odor Epoxy

[Garage Flooring]

Look if your looking for the highest end product on the market, this is not it. This is designed for the person who wants a color coated garage floor, ridiculously high chemical resistance, 4 hours, in the bucket pot life so you don't have to rush and no obnoxious odor.

This is a ~70% solids water-based product that was tested by fellow garage journal members. Most commonly used for those who want an inexpensive floor and typically no flake.

It has been sticking very well with limited prep, but as always, the better the prep, the better the performance.

21 Day Chemical Resistance test (Full immersion) attached,

 

[wmblanken]

Could you topcoat this with a clear polyurea?

 

[Garage Flooring]

Could you topcoat this with a clear polyurea?

You could, but you could also top coat it with its own clear.

 

[dodgepolara500]

Looks like and interesting product given the low VOC and I have an attached garage so a strong smelling epoxy would be a no go for my wife
Is there more images of finished installations somewhere as the site has limited photos.

 

[Garage Flooring]

Looks like and interesting product given the low VOC and I have an attached garage so a strong smelling epoxy would be a no go for my wife
Is there more images of finished installations somewhere as the site has limited photos.

We are limited on job photos right now. There are two posts here on the forum from people with pics from the initial trial. I will see if I can find them

 

[MINIz guy]

How is this different than the box store Rustoleum epoxy kits? And how does it compare to Rust Bullet?

 

[Garage Flooring]

How is this different than the box store Rustoleum epoxy kits? And how does it compare to Rust Bullet?

There are a lot of great products out there. I am not going to compare the products to bands we don't sell. I will say that the chemical resistance and ease of installation of this product is incredible. LOVE the 4 hour, in the bucket, real world pot-life. Love the texture and abrasion resistance when installed as a solid color with glass bead.

It is a thicker build, easier to install product than Rust Bullet. Easier to install because you do not need to be as careful about your rolling habits. If RB will stick to it, this will stick better.

This product is formulated for us in WI. We run small batches (about 100 gallons) and have incredible quality control.

 

[MINIz guy]

Great explanation Justin! Very helpful and may have just swayed me off of RB

 

[VinnieCap]

So...
- What's the prep for a garage that is new but has been parked in all winter? No oil stains.
- How does it compare to big box store epoxy products?
- How will it hold up to jack stands, engine cradles being wheeled across it, engine stands?
- How does it hold up to hot tires or turning tires on the finish?

 

[Garage Flooring]

So...
- What's the prep for a garage that is new but has been parked in all winter? No oil stains.
- How does it compare to big box store epoxy products?
- How will it hold up to jack stands, engine cradles being wheeled across it, engine stands?
- How does it hold up to hot tires or turning tires on the finish?

Prep: The floor needs to be clean, dry and able to absorb water. If you have a very smooth floor, I would open it up with a little, even with a non-acidic etching solution. Prep is always better, but if your floor has a texture to it, the product has amazing adhesion. Everything we have seen is this product will stick to typical residential concrete that is just clean and dry. My floor. I'd do an etch because prep is king in this business.

Compare: I am a huge fan of no comparing products I don't sell. But here is what I would look at with our own product and make your own decisions. 4 hour, in the bucket pot life. Check out the mil thickness. Check out the chemical resistance.

Jacks and Stands: I will give you the same answer I give for ANY epoxy I sell. Use an anti-wear additive, in this case glass bead. Be realistic. If you roll a clean, rubber caster over any coated floor you are going to have success. If you take a hydraulic jack that you use on pavement in the street for years and then use it in the garage it will make a mark.

Tires Car tires are not going to hurt this floor -- assuming proper installation

 

[ToolPolisher]

Would you fill in the cut reliefs in a slab or will this not adhere well in those areas?

 

[Garage Flooring]

Would you fill in the cut reliefs in a slab or will this not adhere well in those areas?

You can go either way. Actually there are three options. Leave the joints alone (coat them but don't fill them). Pre fill with an appropriate product, then coat. Or use a product like Sikaflex and 'caulk' the joints.

 

[VinnieCap]

"Sikaflex and 'caulk' the joints." That is after the floor is painted and finished, correct?

 

[Garage Flooring]

Yes.

 

[Snowman87]

Is there a typical or recommended application sequence for a standard shop floor?

Primer, color coat 1, color coat 2, clear?

 

[Garage Flooring]

Is there a typical or recommended application sequence for a standard shop floor?

Primer, color coat 1, color coat 2, clear?

Unless you are doing flake, no clear would be used.

Coat 1
Coat 2

Coat 1 is diluted 1 Qt of water to 1 gallon of material. Coverage is 400 Sq. Ft. per gallon

Coat 2 glass bead is added and reduced coverage of 250 is used.

 

[SpragClutch]

Just wondering if anyone has used this product yet? How was it to apply and how did ti turn out?

Going to go this route with my garage and just looking for tips.

According to the Tech Data sheet, re-coat time is dry to tough. And that is typically 30 minutes. So it seems like you could get two coats on pretty quick.

Makes me kinda of worried though that it may set up quick after mixing, but it does say the working time from a 5 gallon plastic pail is 4 hours.

Does one have to be careful when applying to avoid roller marks and does it spread differently as a primer vs mixed with glass-fill? Obvious the spread rate per gallon is different, but do they both self-level to a smooth surface?

Thanks!

 

[Garage Flooring]

We have had a bunch of completed applications of the product.

The product will not cure in the bucket.

The primer coat vs main coat (no bead) versus bead all spread vert differently.

Here is one recent project where they added flake https://www.garageflooringllc.com/2018/05/21/lukes-awf-water-based-epoxy-flooring/

 

[jpr]

Any chance of it becoming available in white? Guessing there is a reason it's not.

 

[Garage Flooring]

Any chance of it becoming available in white? Guessing there is a reason it's not.

We don't have enough demand for white. I can do it for large industrial jobs (100 gallons).

 

[SpragClutch]

A few questions,

What is the ideal Humidity and temp range for applying?

I know the spec sheet says anywhere from 45 F to 100 F. But nothing on Humidity levels.

Also, I'm thinking about applying two coats between two days (So 24 hours between coats). The Spec sheet says at a minimum wait 6 hrs, but can go to a maximum of 48 hours between re-coats. Is this ideal to do? Or should I wait for a day when I will be able to apply both coats back to back with the 6 hour minimum?

Thanks!

 

[Garage Flooring]

A few questions,

What is the ideal Humidity and temp range for applying?

I know the spec sheet says anywhere from 45 F to 100 F. But nothing on Humidity levels.

Also, I'm thinking about applying two coats between two days (So 24 hours between coats). The Spec sheet says at a minimum wait 6 hrs, but can go to a maximum of 48 hours between re-coats. Is this ideal to do? Or should I wait for a day when I will be able to apply both coats back to back with the 6 hour minimum?

Thanks!

In a perfect world it would be 70 degrees and low humidity. 70-85 with humidity under 70% is awesome. Under 80% is doable. You start getting higher than that and we worry about condensation and other issues.

Ideal recoat time is 6-12 hours. I would not stretch it more than 20 myself. According to the plant we can push it out to 48 but I have not personally tried it.