New Carlyle Pressure Brake Bleeder

[The Critic]

Carlyle recently introduced a new pressure brake bleeder. This one is unique since the fluid resides in a bladder; this prevents contaminating the new brake fluid with any moisture in shop air.

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/SER9000

https://cdn.hibuwebsites.com/99b50f28e51e46e8910394a106b79851/files/uploaded/napa-auto%20-parts-q323-real-deal-flyer_compressed.pdf

This new Carlyle unit also looks awfully similar to the Snap-On one. Carlyle and Snap-On are the only two "compact" pressure bleeders on the market with a bladder. I can't help but wonder if both are made by the same company.

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[engineer2]

More than the Motive. Bladder is a nice feature.

 

[Wamsutta]

Is the brake fluid in the bladder just there to keep the the moisture in the air hose from reaching the master cylinder?

I mean the brake fluid is not actually traveling from the bladder to the master cylinder is it?

 

[The Critic]

I mean the brake fluid is not actually traveling from the bladder to the master cylinder is it?

It is. That is fundamentally how a pressure brake bleeder works. Bladder or not, fluid travels between the unit and the master cylinder reservoir. The fluid is delivered under the pressure.

 

[Wamsutta]

It is. That is fundamentally how a pressure brake bleeder works. Bladder or not, fluid travels between the unit and the master cylinder reservoir. The fluid is delivered under the pressure.

Whenever I use my Motive bleeder, I get bubbles in the fluid going from the container to the master cylinder. One day I gave up and just pressurized the container empty and then pressurized the master cylinder with just air pressure. I was able to bleed the brakes that way, but I had to make sure I didn't run out of fluid in the master cylinder.

 

[AA/FC]

I use the Motive bleeder but it would be nice to have the bladder.

I wonder how long until we see this same unit on the shelves at Harbor Freight?

We should start a poll.... just for fun. lol
1. How long from today (9/5/23) until this item first appear on the Harbor Freight website?
2. How much will the full retail price be for this item at Harbor Freight?

My guesses below....

1. Two months - 60 days
2. $329

By the way, the new Carlyle bleeder does look very nice. If I did a bunch of brake work I'd be placing an order for one right now. My Motive bleeder serves me just fine for the stuff I do.

 

[peteco]

Whenever I use my Motive bleeder, I get bubbles in the fluid going from the container to the master cylinder. One day I gave up and just pressurized the container empty and then pressurized the master cylinder with just air pressure. I was able to bleed the brakes that way, but I had to make sure I didn't run out of fluid in the master cylinder.

That’s what I do. No mess in the bleeder to clean up.

 

[mslim]

Whenever I use my Motive bleeder, I get bubbles in the fluid going from the container to the master cylinder. One day I gave up and just pressurized the container empty and then pressurized the master cylinder with just air pressure. I was able to bleed the brakes that way, but I had to make sure I didn't run out of fluid in the master cylinder.

It's been a while but I used my Motive the same way. I think I used a turkey baster to **** out the old dirty fluid, then topped off the mc with fresh.

 

[Wamsutta]

That’s what I do. No mess in the bleeder to clean up.

The other reason I started doing it that way is because the Motive cap doesn't seal good enough on the master cylinder. Anything over 10psi and it'll start leaking fluid around the cap. I don't blame Motive entirely though. GM is the one who designed the cap to be the twist and lock type. I envy people who have a simple threaded cap for their master cylinder.

 

[tak1313]

I just made my own using a 1 gallon garden sprayer. Cut the spray handle off and added a fitting and drilled a hole and threaded a pressure meter. But I'm just DIY, so that may not be a suitable solution for everyone.

I've done it both ways - fluid in the container and just pressurizing the master.

I PERSONALLY found the fluid in the container method to waste too much fluid in the end because even when doing a complete change, the amount of fluid going through is not enough that I can't keep up just by watching the level in the master reservoir.

 

[The Critic]

 

[Earp69]

Just pictures and no review? I think you need a new screen name, you're not a very good critic!

 

[The Critic]

Just pictures and no review? I think you need a new screen name, you're not a very good critic!

Full review to follow.

 

[Sumboodie]

How much?

 

[The Critic]

How much?

360 coconuts.

 

[The Critic]

Final update:

It did not work out and was returned.

Maybe I received a defective Honda adapter, but the o-rings were oversized. This prevented the Honda adapter from being used. The Toyota adapter fit well though. Unfortunately I need a working Honda adapter so I had to return the entire kit. This kit also uses proprietary fittings that prevented me from using my existing CCT/Power Probe adapters.


Also, this bleeder needs to “bled” each time you refill with fresh fluid. This is a normal characteristic of diaphragm brake bleeders, but for a small capacity unit, this became a bigger pain than expected. You need to “waste” approximately 6-8oz of fluid before you get a clear stream, which is a lot of waste…when this unit’s capacity was clearly designed for single vehicle services.

The “waste” fluid becomes extremely aerated and should be discarded.