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bmallak

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So I picked up my First Real Compressor for my new shop and now I need Suggestions for a regulator/filter. Im not painting but just running air tools etc. The compressor is a Belair QP318VE that puts out 18.5 cfm at 100psi With a 3/4 outlet on it. Does it matter if I get a regulator with 3/4" or 1/2". Any suggestions on Brand would be great to. I just want a quality unit. Thanks
 
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I bought SMC brand and it died in a year. I ponied up for Milton regulator, filter and a gauge. Hasn't failed me yet. I know that Norgren is good stuff too. I have one filter with a drain. It is only a couple feet from the the compressor so it doesn't really do anything that I have seen. ( Milton requires it for warranty and it's not a bad idea).

3/4" or 1/2" depends on what air tools. 1"
Impact? 3/4". Regular 1/2"'impact, ratchet, etc? Then go 1/2". They will neck down to 3/8" hose and then 1/4" NPT at the tool anyway. It's good to minimize restrictions though. Milton Hi Flow V ( I think ) will help with that. Good luck!
You didn't mention single or dual stage (150 vs 175 psi max). If dual, the HD /HF may only go to 150 psi in 1/2 " . Some go to 175 Max psi. Just something to watch out for. I had to call Milton to get the high pressure model numbers.
 
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The size of the pipe depends on the distance of the run and what you are powering. Small shops can get away with 1/2", longer runs may require 3/4". I made my main runs using 3/4", then reduced down to 1/2" for the drops.
Your filter/water traps need to be about 25' from the compressor, this will allow the the moisture to fall out of suspension as the air cools and give you drier air. Use black iron or copper for the piping, never PVC.
 
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So I will probably look for a regulator filter with 3/4" since I think I will plumb the shop with 3/4" mains anyways when Money allows. So for now Im looking for some suggestions on a quality regulator/filter with 3/4" inlets and outlets.
 

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Menards has one with 1/2 ports, a 3/4 will be pricey but you don't need it. In fact they don't work when the unit is too big.
 
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bmallak

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what do you mean they dont work when they are to big?? what brand does menards carry? The last time I looked all of the air compressor stuff our store carried was garbage.
 

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www.tptools.com has 3/4" regulators, filters and water separators. I recommend you get their free catalog. They have lots of ways to spend your money. I use Ingersoll Rand ARO regulators and filters. They seem to work well and have never let me down.
 
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The Menards was kind of junkie but cheap and it worked well. It came with a luber which I thru away. I have used good ones, never had a problem, used cheap ones had one problem after long service, replaced it. There is some amble in life but this should be designed in so its not a chore to remove, buy a good one you probably don't have to fix it, a cheap one probably not either.

I like some of the box store stuff, one thread here said Home Depot 23$ and as I recall its 3/8 in and out with 1/4 side ports. I think its the one below or similar.

This little reg will pass twice the air your comp will produce. Take 50 ft of 3/8 hose, open it up on a blow gun, it will drain the comp way faster than an air tool. Sometimes I harp on simple, part of it is related to this. Pass the air thru 1 filter, easy to take care of, easy to remember, small enough to service.
That's a lot of babble but you don't need 3/4, only reason for it is to slow the air velocity in the pipe a little for cooling. A 3/8 line at higher pressure before the regulator would certainly be sufficient to provide for a 3/8 after. Similar dynamics to a transformer welder and gas regulation, not the same ratios but the same principle. Go to hi pressure and you can use SMALLER line for transmission.

I have some long runs, not looped, not that it couldn't be but 3/4 on the hi side is plenty. A psi loss twice a day for 30 seconds doesn't mean squat. I remember thinking I needed big early on in my career, been doing this since 16, my design and thoughts are so much more practical than when I started.

Ok, back to filter. too big of a pipe and it costs too much in most cases but the filter wont work as the air is too slow. It needs velocity, even these may work better with 2 tools running. The idea isn't always to get as big as you can but to match the sizing to the application.
 

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3/4" seems way overkill, especially when a normal air tool runs on a 1/4" NPT. But , if you are set on them, the brands I mentioned earlier should be able to fill your request. Just make sure your max PSI isn't exceeded.
 

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I suggest buying industrial filter brands like Hankison, Zeks, or Ingersoll-Rand. Hint: If you can buy it at Tractor Supply or Home Depot then it is not the industrial version. Norgren and SMC make very good regulators for the money.

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18 cfm at 100 PSIG will flow through a 1/2" pipe just fine, with a less than 2 PSIG pressure drop for a 100 foot run of pipe. If you can afford the extra money for 3/4" then go ahead and install it, because in 20-years of experience in compressed air I've never seen a facility have a problem because the line was too big.

You might also consider investing in an aluminum piping system like SimplAir or Infinity. They don't leak, are lightweight and easy to install.
 
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the only reason I said 3/4" was to keep it the same from compressor to regulator to piping after. The drops would be 1/2". The regulator will obviously maintain the correct pressure levels. If I found a 1/2" that would work to. Alot of the ones I looked at were pretty close in price Betweeen 3/4 and 1/2.
 
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Thank You Stonesfan. You are finnaly thinking the way I do as far as the big box stores. And I was looking at aluminum pipe when the time comes.
 
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I did list the air compressor in my first post. but it is a dual stage 175 psi unit. We have had a milton on the farm for close to 15 years now so that seems to be a good unit. I will just have to start looking. Are there any good places that seem to have better prices than others? I checked IR clearance site but looks pretty well picked over.
 
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