New cornwell tools video USA made stuff

[Camilo]

New to me at least

 

[SMKS]

Here are a couple things I noticed-

1 - At the beginning he points to a box of Cornwell tools and says "the good American made stuff." I believe Cornwell tool boxes are made in Mexico by Waterloo.

2 - You can't buy Cornwell tools from anywhere but a dealer, and they seem to be few and far between in many areas. Why would Cornwell spend all the money to sponsor shows like this? Most people don't have any way to buy Cornwell tools if they want to.

 

[oldjacks]

I recently made an inquiry on their website for information via email and never received a response. Where is that old fashioned family owned service they were talking about on the video?

 

[Fedwrench]

Only their core hardline of wrenches and most sockets are US made. Everything else is either rebadged or imported. If you ever get one of their price lists, the items they actually make are listed in bold print which is only a fraction of the part numbers. Still stout classicly designed tools. Definitely old school.

 

[bobcatdan]

If cornwell was easier to buy from for more people would like them. Their hardline tools shown in that video are nice tools. A lot of import or rebadge stuff, but with most companies doing now a day, I can't fault them.

 

[briggsguy17]

Here are a couple things I noticed-

1 - At the beginning he points to a box of Cornwell tools and says "the good American made stuff." I believe Cornwell tool boxes are made in Mexico by Waterloo.

2 - You can't buy Cornwell tools from anywhere but a dealer, and they seem to be few and far between in many areas. Why would Cornwell spend all the money to sponsor shows like this? Most people don't have any way to buy Cornwell tools if they want to.

I have noticed that Cornwell seems to be making a push for more market share with dealer wanted type ads on the internet and product placement on some TV shows. I wonder if we will see more Cornwell in the future. Could be a result of MAC losing market share, if they are?

 

[mrholeshot]

Good Video. Too bad most of it's Horse ****. Mexican made tool boxes and Stanley built screwdrivers. They don't tell you about how bad the Chrome ***** either.

 

[tonydanzah]

Good Video. Too bad most of it's Horse ****. Mexican made tool boxes and Stanley built screwdrivers. They don't tell you about how bad the Chrome ***** either.

all the chrome i have seen has been awesome and the screwdriver was a witte. I just dont like how the sockets have one detent hole.

 

[mtkst19]

to stay in business for 90 years you have to be doing something right. i would have thought their work shop would have better light than what it appears. i was surprised that it is not as machine operated as i thought it would have been. a lot of human interaction in the process.

 

[mrholeshot]

all the chrome i have seen has been awesome and the screwdriver was a witte. I just dont like how the sockets have one detent hole.

All the chome on every cornwell tool I own looks like ****. I stand corrected on the screwdrivers. For some reason I was thinking they were Facom

 

[Chadro]

All the chome on every cornwell tool I own looks like ****. I stand corrected on the screwdrivers. For some reason I was thinking they were Facom

Going off most of your posts, every tool made is a ************* unless it is made by Snap-On .

 

[mrholeshot]

Going off most of your posts, every tool made is a ************* unless it is made by Snap-On .

Give me a few examples of tools I called peices of **** other than the new Mac tools and Craftsman Raised panel ratchets. Remember I'm the guy who takes the heat for bragging on how well tools like Duralast are and how strong some HF ratchets are. Before making a blanket statement like that about me your may want to remove your cranium from you ******

 

[Damian]

Give me a few examples of tools I called peices of **** other than the new Mac tools and Craftsman Raised panel ratchets. Remember I'm the guy who takes the heat for bragging on how well tools like Duralast are and how strong some HF ratchets are. Before making a blanket statement like that about me your may want to remove your cranium from you ******

Agreed. Holeshot gives a lot of other tool manuf. props.

I've got a Cornwell truck that comes by the shop. The only Cornwell stuff I own are some punches and hammers. I've seen way too many of their impact sockets break over the years to spend money on them.

I'm also not sure if the prices on the truck are regulated by the dealer or Cornwell themselves but the truck prices are ridiculous. Same or more than Snap on in some cases. If I'm gonna spend $350 on a set of impact swivels, it'll be a Snap on set and not Cornwell.

 

[Chadro]

Give me a few examples of tools I called peices of **** other than the new Mac tools and Craftsman Raised panel ratchets. Remember I'm the guy who takes the heat for bragging on how well tools like Duralast are and how strong some HF ratchets are. Before making a blanket statement like that about me your may want to remove your cranium from you ******

I'm referring to the tool truck brands.

 

[Zrexxer]

And Stacey David wins the award for the most unwitting irony of the year, when he steps onto the Cornwell dealer's truck and proclaims:

"It's like a Pier One Imports for guys!"

 

[bagsanthony]

agreed.... holeshot knows his ****!

 

[bchee]

Here's a video of the tool box plant.

Not sure where its located.

 

[mtkst19]

who has worse hair-- stacey david or donald trump? now that is the million dollar question.

 

[Sterff]

Still makes me want to buy some Cornwell wrenches.

 

[rt dak]

Here's a video of the tool box plant.

Not sure where its located.

You're not sure? I didn't see any white people in that factory. Just sayin'.

 

[Wrenches of Death]

You're not sure? I didn't see any white people in that factory. Just sayin'.

I just watched it and didn't see any of those pasty white devils either!

I did notice a statement that was made at four minutes and fifty seconds though:

"Before any product can leave the plant under the Cornwell name..."

That statement, the Hispanic looking workers, and and the predominant warning labels on the machinery in Spanish, would lead me to believe that the factory is not in the US.

I really hated to see Vulcan and SK disappear. I also hated to see Cornwell, Mac, and Matco loose every increasing market shares. As there are fewer and fewer major players in the tool game, there is less and less competition.

Competition can be very good for the consumer. It spurs competitive developement of new ideas and new tools. Competition spurs high standards in quality and workmanship. If you're the only game in town, why waste money on product development?

With no completion, you end up with things like a forty year run of 1967 Lada's.

"Psst, hey comrade, my cousin say that 2012 Lada have air conditioning..."

Sadly, with the wide export of the technology required for high quality manufacturing to companies in Third World countries, it's just a matter of time before pretty much nothing will be manufactured here.

You can open a plant in Burma, or Myanmar as it's currently known. Invite one of the ruling military generals in as a partner. You'll have no problems with the unions, labor strikes, the EPA, OSHA, health care insurance, workman's comp, law suits, Al Gore and Carbon Credits, the US's punishing corporate income taxes, or anything else detrimental to profits.

The average income over there is about $200 bucks a year, so you can easily get all of the very happy and very obedient workers you want for double or triple that. Say, four dollars a day?

Just wait until the Chinese get the manufacturing down pat for complete new automobiles, clothes washers, dryers, refrigerators, commercial heating and air conditioning components, etc. etc. etc. etc.

This place is done. Even Ray Charles could see it. Any of you believing that things are going to "get back to normal" and "get better" are living in a state of denial.

WoD

 

[muskaman67]

my cornwell dealer told me their toolboxes are made in usa and their rolling carts are china.

 

[bchee]

I did notice that every man had a mustache.

 

[Skin]

Good Video. Too bad most of it's Horse ****. Mexican made tool boxes and Stanley built screwdrivers. They don't tell you about how bad the Chrome ***** either.

they've definetly had a stint of chrome issues but i think their chrome is great.

Give me a few examples of tools I called peices of **** other than the new Mac tools and Craftsman Raised panel ratchets. Remember I'm the guy who takes the heat for bragging on how well tools like Duralast are and how strong some HF ratchets are. Before making a blanket statement like that about me your may want to remove your cranium from you ******

well you did pull a complete 180 by starting a rant thread with this in it

OK, I've about had it. All my life as a working tech there was rarely a tool in my box that wasn't made in the USA. Every nor and then something of interest would earn it's way in but about 98% was USA like Snap-On, MAC and a little Craftsman. Over the last few years I've discovered some well made offshore brands(Gearwrench, Duralast, etc) that rival USA brands. Heres the deal, Either the company does the bait and switch with great tools then moves onto **** (Duralast) or wiggles it's way out of replacing the tool(Gearwrench) or in some cases tries to replace your broken USA tool with a China based tool (Craftsman and Mac) That it has become overwhemly obvious what the solution to the delemia is. Buy older USA, New USA that is marked USA and screw all the rest. I'm sick to death of being screwed over by so many tool companies because they can.Ive made up my mind that if it isn't Made in the USA, marked Made in the USA I'm not buying it. End of rant

 

[Zrexxer]

my cornwell dealer told me their toolboxes are made in usa and their rolling carts are china.

I can confirm at least half of that statement. Incidentally, my email to Cornwell about that went unanswered, as did a previous poster'.s

 

[Zrexxer]

They don't tell you about how bad the Chrome ***** either.

Yeah, it's so bad you can hardly tell it's shiny. Real ****. ***** big time.

agreed.... holeshot knows his ****!

Not sure I'd have gone out on that limb.

 

[Skin]

zrexxer on the sockets do they still rely on the use of the one retention hole for the retention ball or have they started to scallop out all 4 sides?

 

[mrholeshot]

Yeah, it's so bad you can hardly tell it's shiny. Real ****. ***** big time.

Not sure I'd have gone out on that limb.

It's not that the chrome is bad looking when new but if you use them like a pro the Chrome disappears and or chips really bad. They look really nice when new. The chrome just doesnt stand up to hard use

 

[vssjim]

Good Video. Too bad most of it's Horse ****. Mexican made tool boxes and Stanley built screwdrivers. They don't tell you about how bad the Chrome ***** either.

There Screwdrivers are german same as matco used to have Whitte I beleave

 

[mrholeshot]

they've definetly had a stint of chrome issues but i think their chrome is great.



well you did pull a complete 180 by starting a rant thread with this in it

That was about companies doing bait and switch tactics. Seems like when you find something good it's here today and gone tommorow. Even with all my ranting over Gearwrench I havent said anything bad about the tools. Just get tired of fly by night tools and seems like the only companies that back them up like they should are companies like Snap-On, Williams, Wright and a few more.

 

[vssjim]

The Toolboxes are made by Waterloo and they moved the factory to mexico and i doub't that Cornwell tools had any say in that. The carts are imported from china like pretty much everybody else.

 

[otis66]

Here are a couple things I noticed-

1 - At the beginning he points to a box of Cornwell tools and says "the good American made stuff." I believe Cornwell tool boxes are made in Mexico by Waterloo.

2 - You can't buy Cornwell tools from anywhere but a dealer, and they seem to be few and far between in many areas. Why would Cornwell spend all the money to sponsor shows like this? Most people don't have any way to buy Cornwell tools if they want to.

Mexico, and Canda are in North America. That's why you have to be careful. In the video he says the tool box is American Made. American made does not mean Made In USA.

 

[otis66]

Yeah, it's so bad you can hardly tell it's shiny. Real ****. ***** big time.

Not sure I'd have gone out on that limb.

I have this Cornwell socket set. It's a great set.

 

[kartracer55]

3:35 in the toolbox video the sign is in Spanish...

Honestly, Flame away for this, but that factory in Mexico looks like a way better operation than the one in the original video. Quality test equipment being used, new machinery etc etc. Compare that to the ghetto ratchet test fixture built on the edge of a work bench in the original video.

 

[tonydanzah]

zrexxer on the sockets do they still rely on the use of the one retention hole for the retention ball or have they started to scallop out all 4 sides?

They are still using one hole per socket, if you watch the video you can even see the process.

 

[Wrenches of Death]

Mexico, and Canda are in North America. That's why you have to be careful. In the video he says the tool box is American Made. American made does not mean Made In USA.

Honestly, that never occurred to me. That's the kind of manipulative and dishonest play on words that really irritates the hell out of me. Probably dreamed up by some marketing geek and then OK'd by the company shyster with a hundred dollar haircut.

If they're waiting on my business, they might as well fire everyone and shut the place down. They'll never seen another dime from me.

What they fail to realize is that they aren't anywhere near being the only game in town. They need consumers more than consumers need them.

WoD

 

[SMKS]

Mexico, and Canda are in North America. That's why you have to be careful. In the video he says the tool box is American Made. American made does not mean Made In USA.

His statement is misleading.

If he had said "made in the Americas," then he could be correct.

Maybe I should go back and listen. Maybe he very-quietly said "central" before he said "American made."

"American made" means made in the USA and that's what they insinuated.

 

[Wrenches of Death]

Honestly, Flame away for this, but that factory in Mexico looks like a way better operation than the one in the original video. Quality test equipment being used, new machinery etc etc. Compare that to the ghetto ratchet test fixture built on the edge of a work bench in the original video.

I suspect that the reason is that the people WANT to work. And they want to do the best job that they can because they know that if they don't, there a steady stream of people waiting in line for their cushy and decent paying job.

It almost takes an Act of Congress to get rid of some useless deadhead at a plant or factory here. Then once you jump through enough hoops and finally manage to get rid of the idiot, you're paying half of his unemployment for a half a year or so. Then you have to worry about them taking you to court and claiming that they were discriminated against because there were left handed, or chanted to and worshiped satan during breaks and lunch, or because he was cross eyed , etc. etc. etc.

I'd have moved the plant down there too right after I forced the current workers to train their replacements.

WoD

 

[otis66]

my cornwell dealer told me their toolboxes are made in usa and their rolling carts are china.

My Cornwell dealer told me that the tool carts are made in China and the Tool boxes are made in a Waterloo plant in Mexico.

 

[otis66]

Honestly, that never occurred to me. That's the kind of manipulative and dishonest play on words that really irritates the hell out of me. Probably dreamed up by some marketing geek and then OK'd by the company shyster with a hundred dollar haircut.

If they're waiting on my business, they might as well fire everyone and shut the place down. They'll never seen another dime from me.

What they fail to realize is that they aren't anywhere near being the only game in town. They need consumers more than consumers need them.

WoD

I like Cornwell tools but I would buy a MATCO box made in USA or a Snap On Box Made in USA before I would buy a Cornwell tool box.