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Nah, the craftsman brand is a staple, you could get rid of the name. Many non-tool freasks wouldnt know about allen being different or whatever. Raise the prices and sell them as craftsman. Take a look at a craftsman pro wrench and an allen... strikingly similar

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Actually I will take this one step further....Craftsmen is now in contract supply houses under private distrubtors.....so hopefully Craftsmen never tries to hit mom and pop stores
 

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What exactly do you mean? I know MSC sells some sears stuff....


I am saying that if Sears ever decides to "let go" of the Craftsmen brand like they did for contractor supply houses....you could see Craftsmen in all hardware stores
 

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They don't buy/make ALL their pieces overseas and assemble them here. That is a blanket statement that is simply not true.


That is true they dont....but it might or heck it will result to that
 
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I am saying that if Sears ever decides to "let go" of the Craftsmen brand like they did for contractor supply houses....you could see Craftsmen in all hardware stores


Yeah, but isnt craftsman a sears brand? I meanisnt craftsman part of sears roebuck, not just a line they carry?

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Yeah, but isnt craftsman a sears brand? I meanisnt craftsman part of sears roebuck, not just a line they carry?

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Sorry not in a trademark since...just the products themselves
 
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Ummm Allen isn't Allen anymore.., they've been bought out too.

I have a majority of craftsman tools, and have yet to break a tool using it for its intended purpose.



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G1K said:
Ummm Allen isn't Allen anymore.., they've been bought out too.

I have a majority of craftsman tools, and have yet to break a tool using it for its intended purpose.



Ryan


Yea well whoever has Allen is doing a good job with quality
 

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kartracer55 said:
Nah, the craftsman brand is a staple, you could get rid of the name. Many non-tool freasks wouldnt know about allen being different or whatever. Raise the prices and sell them as craftsman. Take a look at a craftsman pro wrench and an allen... strikingly similar

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I could be wrong but I thought there was a very old post on Markkw about the Craftsman pro wrenches being made by SK. Or maybe that was awhile back and they are made by Allen nowadays. Like I said I'm not 100 percent sure but those pro wrenches look a lot like SK's long pattern open ends.
The Craftsman pro thinline ratchet is the best hands down in the 1/4" & 3/8" drive sizes, IMHO. If you're thinking about getting the 3/8" drive, don't hesitate. In the 1/2" drive not so much, but that could be due to just mine or maybe it's because I don't use that size as much as the others and needs to be broken in a little. Even compared to my Snap-on and Mac ratchets those pro thinline are more comfortable, (seriously have you ever held one in your hands) but the Craftmans are much more smooth too. All sizes of the Craftmans pro thinlines have 60 teeth compared to 36 teeth on the Snap-ons sealed head high strength ratchets. Thats a difference between 6 degree of movement and 10 degrees. The Snap-ons feel a little choppy compared to the pro thinlines. The pro thinlines also have a sealed head design, which might be a first for Craftsman. I took apart all 3 of them and they have two o-rings, one under the quick release button and one on the other side. The Snap-ons don't have a quick release button and I find it to be a real *****, sometimes. And also the direction change lever is made of metal instead of plastic like the other Craftsmans, which always seems to break. And if that wasn't enough, while I had the ratchets apart, I also noticed that there are approximately ten teeth in contact with the pawl, which makes the ratchet very strong. Most ratchets have three or four teeth in contact with the pawl. And last, but not least, check the finish of them, (chome) they are better then anything else out there. After about two years of using them daily the finist still looks like new. Many other mechanics have agreed with me about these ratchets after trying mine out. Even an area Snap-on rep had to agree these Craftsman were better than what he had on the truck. It's a shame these ratchets aren't available in Canada, got mine when I visited the US. I paid a lot more when they first came out, because you had to buy them separately, now they can be bought in a set of three. The Craftsman ratchets in Canada are totally different and they ****. I also like how there are just Sears tool and hardware stores in the US, without all the clothing, electronics and perfume sales.
 
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Yeah, they are very nice, and I recall that thread too, but that was just speculation. They def. arnt. The giveaway is the box end. On an SK, its a very smooth transition, the wrench seems to et thicker, but the craftsman pros havea noticeablle ride between the handle and the box.... Kinda hard to explain.

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kartracer55 said:
Yeah, they are very nice, and I recall that thread too, but that was just speculation. They def. arnt. The giveaway is the box end. On an SK, its a very smooth transition, the wrench seems to et thicker, but the craftsman pros havea noticeablle ride between the handle and the box.... Kinda hard to explain.

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I know what your saying...the SK's wont have any flex where the Craftsmen will or bend when turning things
 
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I know what your saying...the SK's wont have any flex where the Craftsmen will or bend when turning things


No, Its hard to see unless you are handling the wrench.

If you look at where the box end meets the handle of an SK wrench, it blends very smoothly into the handle... its a nice gentle curve, where as most other brands have a very abrupt end to the handle

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