The battery on my old dewalt is shot. Instead of trying to find a new battery I decided it was time to upgrade. I stopped by lowes and all of the choices were a little bit confusing. I'm looking for a lithium ion drill and driver combo. They will be used for general diy and some woodworking. I'm not against spending more for a better tool, but I also wonder if the upgrade will be something I notice. What do you guys/gals recommend?
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bcradio
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I would go with the m12 fuel deal on cpo
kctyphoon
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Milwaukee... if your previous set was 18v, I'd go with another 18v.. obviously the fuel line is the best they have to offer, but anything will work fine. 10 or 15 years ago the dewalt 18v nicad was where things were at.. that's changed today..
If you are not familiar with what they have, I'd advise you spend some time on YouTube. Realistically, any brand today will work just fine, but the best advice to be given is to invest in a system, and not just your initial tool purchase. When I started buying Milwaukee I thought I'd just get the basic 4 or 5 tools.. I was way off...
Also, the best bang for your buck will be to buy a drill and impact driver combo, not just the drill..
If you are not familiar with what they have, I'd advise you spend some time on YouTube. Realistically, any brand today will work just fine, but the best advice to be given is to invest in a system, and not just your initial tool purchase. When I started buying Milwaukee I thought I'd just get the basic 4 or 5 tools.. I was way off...
Also, the best bang for your buck will be to buy a drill and impact driver combo, not just the drill..
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yjWrangler
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Loving my M12 Milwaukee stuff
Zeke
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+2!!
kctyphoon
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Yea, so if you go with even the standard m18 brushed stuff, you'd be in for a huge improvement. huge.. I have ALOT of m18 stuff, both brushed and fuel line, and both the m12 and m12 Fuel stuff for a few items.. the m12 fuel stuff is great for a 12v platform, but it's not 18v replacements.. even if you got m18 brushed, and just their small batteries, you'd be looking at big jump in performance.. with the fuel line, bigger still. Plus you open the doors to an immense system of 18v tool and lighting options..
Here are some current deals at Home Depot in both the m12 and m18 platforms. And just FYI - all m12 batteries work with all m12 tools, all m18 batteries work with all m18 tools..
some cliff notes -
m12/m18 = brushed
m12 fuel/m18 fuel = brushless / top of the line, highest torque specs
M18 brushless = smaller brushless motors, same torque as brushed tools, just the newer technology(in drills and impact drivers only)
M18 surge - impact driver only, hydraulically driven, quieter, better for small and medium size fasteners
M18 Fuel with One Key. Same as m18 fuel, with an additional feature that allows you to program one setting on the tools for custom speeds via smartphone app..
http://www.homedepot.com/b/Tools-Power-Tools-Power-Tool-Combo-Kits/Milwaukee/N-5yc1vZc2ecZzv
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txvwnut
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Milwaukee fuel either 18 or 12, I think the 18 offers more options. If your on a budget Ryobi is good. I have a bunch of Ryobi that I use for home repairs and wood working and it hasn’t let me down. I have a Milwaukee M12 fuel impact and 1/2” hammer drill in the greasy work side of the shop and those things are beasts. I think that little M12 drill will hang right with my magnum hole shooter.
fourjeepin
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I bought into the Ridgid 18v line after my Dewalt 18v nicad batteries gave up. Quality is much better than Ryobi; price isn't much more. The battery warranty is huge but I also like that they have never changed the battery attachment.
engineer2
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I got into the Makita 18v line after my Dewalt 18v nicad batteries got tired. Makita has one of the largest product lines including lots of outdoor tools.
Really Ryobi, Milwaukee, Makita, DeWalt are all decent. I'd probably stick to 18v/20v for more power. Maybe get a combo kit with 4 or 5 tools if you think you will want the saws. A little cheaper (not much) that way to buy all at once.
Consider the oscillating multi tool too, as they come in handy.
Consider the oscillating multi tool too, as they come in handy.
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You'll find Milwaukee is super popular at Garage Journal
kctyphoon
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^ what he said.
As far as the 12v vs 18v. My personal OPINION is this. If you are only looking to invest into one platform, you are far better off going with something you KNOW will deliver what you want and need. It's better to have the more powerful option, and watch the tools work easier, breeze though your projects, than it may be to ask smaller platforms to work harder, and MAYBE leave you underwhelmed with a bad taste in your mouth. There is also not a big difference in physical size with the drills and impacts, especially when you go with bigger 12v batteries.
The 12v stuff is great, for what they are.. but again, don't think anyone is replacing 18v nicad dewalt stuff with 12v fuel and playing at the same level.. its unfortunately just not the same thing. (I wish it was).. if you know all you work is smaller duty, and you prefer the smaller tools, then yes - 12v fuel may be a good choice, might even be near what that 14v was like when new.. if you'd enjoy an upgrade, then 18v is your choice..
Best advice again - invest in a system, not just the first tools you buy. Chances are you will want more once you see what you've been missing..
As far as the 12v vs 18v. My personal OPINION is this. If you are only looking to invest into one platform, you are far better off going with something you KNOW will deliver what you want and need. It's better to have the more powerful option, and watch the tools work easier, breeze though your projects, than it may be to ask smaller platforms to work harder, and MAYBE leave you underwhelmed with a bad taste in your mouth. There is also not a big difference in physical size with the drills and impacts, especially when you go with bigger 12v batteries.
The 12v stuff is great, for what they are.. but again, don't think anyone is replacing 18v nicad dewalt stuff with 12v fuel and playing at the same level.. its unfortunately just not the same thing. (I wish it was).. if you know all you work is smaller duty, and you prefer the smaller tools, then yes - 12v fuel may be a good choice, might even be near what that 14v was like when new.. if you'd enjoy an upgrade, then 18v is your choice..
Best advice again - invest in a system, not just the first tools you buy. Chances are you will want more once you see what you've been missing..
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crewchief888
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milwaukee gets my vote...
ive had many drills/drivers over the years, milwaukee has been the best so far.
IMHO the 12v milwaukee drills/drivers i have (both brushed and fuel) far outperform (mainly in terms of battery life) the 18v ridgid drills/drivers i have
12v & 18v cordless tools in my service truck are all milwaukee
ive had many drills/drivers over the years, milwaukee has been the best so far.
IMHO the 12v milwaukee drills/drivers i have (both brushed and fuel) far outperform (mainly in terms of battery life) the 18v ridgid drills/drivers i have
12v & 18v cordless tools in my service truck are all milwaukee
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I'm a Dewalt 18 volt fan, I have been converting to 20 volt slowly. I did get the adapter kit to use 20 volt batteries on 18 volt stuff. I have recently purchased a M12 screw driver and a drill/driver to replace my 14.4 dewalt I use for work. So far it has done every thing I have thrown at it. I wish Dewalt had more to offer in the 12v line, but the Milwaukee is growing on me.
Here is what I'm leaning toward. What do y'all think?
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...l-Impact-Combo-Kit-2-Tool-2798-22CT/205846385
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...l-Impact-Combo-Kit-2-Tool-2798-22CT/205846385
Yeah that's a good combo and a good price. Once you get that, you'll have the charger and batteries so you can add other Milwaukee tools. You can get some bargains on bare new tools on ebay, CPO, here on GJ classifieds, etc..
That will be a lot better than what you have now.
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Agreed ^^^^^. However, the Milwaukee is not flawless. It's too easy to lightly bump the button in the reverse position (mostly with the palm joint on your index finger) and it won't spin. Frustrating when you have everything lined up and pull the trigger for nothing. Lefty's would see the opposite and that would be even worse as they would be bumping it out of the clockwise driving direction.
I kinda like my old 9.6v Makita's since that switch is on the center back of the handle. You can switch it while still gripping it with your other hand. The Milwaukee you just about have to let go or contort your finger to do that.
My question is, how about the DeWalts and others regarding the reversing switch?
Edit: Right now you can get the DeWalt combo set 20v for $169 and the 18 for $149, I could be convinced to jump ship for that. But... they aren't brushless. Those in the Dewalt are $ky high.
I kinda like my old 9.6v Makita's since that switch is on the center back of the handle. You can switch it while still gripping it with your other hand. The Milwaukee you just about have to let go or contort your finger to do that.
My question is, how about the DeWalts and others regarding the reversing switch?
Edit: Right now you can get the DeWalt combo set 20v for $169 and the 18 for $149, I could be convinced to jump ship for that. But... they aren't brushless. Those in the Dewalt are $ky high.
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rnscustom
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Makita here , been using them since the 9.6v came out , no issues ever except wearing them out and one battery that I kept charging and the chip shut down ( my fault ) . Was thinking of switching then I bought the right angle drill so I guess I'll keep them . Also have the 18v hitachi and like them , real light . Go to cpo outlet , can get refurbed stuff cheaper and they are actually new but had an issue and were sent back to be looked over .
mudflap
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I would go for it..thats a great deal..I have the same combo, but paid more for it.. I have had them all Stick with the big 3 Dewalt, Makita, and Milwaukee ...They are all great...comes down to whats your favorite color...
PelicanPines
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Swallowed the red pill here... M12 everywhere... I have a few dewalt 20v but all the new stuff is red.
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Very happy with my 20v DeWalt. The batteries last and last, plenty of power. The direction switch is no problem for me. Lightweight as well.
Really my biggest complaint is there's no ratchet option. That would be super convenient. I emailed dewalt and got no response. I might have to get the Milwaukee one sometime.
Really my biggest complaint is there's no ratchet option. That would be super convenient. I emailed dewalt and got no response. I might have to get the Milwaukee one sometime.
kctyphoon
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Yea this is a long post, but I hope it helps ya...
The set you're leaning toward is nice, just FYI I don't think THAT drill is a hammer drill. If you don't need one, then it doesn't matter.. also just in case you're not aware between different brands, - "brushless" does not always mean more powerful. There are some brushed options that spec out more powerful than some other brushless stuff. "Brushless" just means the tool is using a newer type of motor that is actually A/C powered, and digitally controlled. Brushless tools will typically last longer and run cooler, but it's just a newer technology being employed inside the tools.
Within the Milwaukee brand, - Fuel will always be the best. The "brushless" tools you picked will spec out about the same as the brushed m18 versions. Any choice is good here.
If you wanted a hammer drill, here's the m18 compact hammer drill kit for $259. The brushless version is $299 I think.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...t-Driver-Combo-Kit-2-Tool-2697-22CT/202951723
Another option is the refurb route.. CPO has the "Bushless" hammer drill and impact driver set, with a compact and XC battery on sale for $219...the warranty is lessened for the refurb kits, but my first Milwaukee purchase was the gen1 Fuel drill / impact driver combo and they were both in very good shape and I never had a problem with them. Here's the listing, maybe thumb through some other deals on this site too. A lot of times the refurb equipment isn't even repaired, they were just returned for any reason. Even still, refurb tools are inspected individually opposed to stuff just coming off a line, so they are typically checked more carefully. ALOT of us on here have purchased refurbed tools from CPO, and I don't recall anyone having a bad experience. You just give up a big chunk of the warranty period in return for a big discount. You'll still have plenty of time to use the tools with a warranty, and if there was a problem, typically that would show itself sooner than later. I personally have no reservations buying stuff from CPO as refurbs, but sometimes different sales and promos Milwaukee runs will bring the prices of new down so low it doesn't pay to do refurb. Milwaukee also runs the most sales and promos I've ever seen.
https://www.cpomilwaukee.com/factor...mpact-combo-kit/milr2799-82cx,default,pd.html
Milwaukee BY FAR has the best cordless lighting options too.. with their m18 chargers working on m12 batteries too, it makes crossing into both platforms easier. I have a lot for both. I'd never give up my m12 heated jackets..
Lastly - if you can push your budget from $199 to $299, you can get the refurb set of the M18 Milwaukee FUEL One Key, Hammer drill and Impact driver set. You'll also be getting 2 5.0 batteries with this set, which if the set you initially choose, comes with 1.5mah batteries, this would more than triple your battery capacity and runtime. This is the absolute top of the line set from Milwaukee, with Bluetooth control on the tools too via smartphone app. At CPO, A refurb of the same set without the one key option is the same price as a OneKey refurb kit here, so might as well go with the one key, even if ya never use it. For $100 more, you're gaining a big amount of capacity and capabilities. Check it out. You won't even believe the difference over that 14v drill you have. This set is $399 new on the Home Depot site (price was lowered). You also get a hard case with this kit over the contractor bag with the others. Free shipping from CPO too. personally, I'd try to go with this if you have the money to spend. If not, the brushless set won't disappoint you either, but as you can see, that extra $100 gets you a lot in this case. The compact stuff can be nice with the small batteries though cause it cuts down on size and weight, but the Lithium 4.0 and 5.0 packs are about the same size and weight as the old 18v dewalt nicads. Smaller batteries can always be purchased cheap off eBay if you go withbthe bigger kit initially and then decide you want one later. I barely use the 2.0 m18 batteries I have though.
The fuel drill is rated at 1200 inch pounds of peak torque.
The brushless version you picked specs 500 inch pounds..
the brushed version specs out at 525.
Gotta be honest here, these 500 numbers don't seem correct to me, but anyway, that's what's listed.. bottom line here is the fuel drill will be noticeably stronger.
For comparison, the m12 fuel drill specs out at 350 inch pounds, basically saying the gen2 m18 fuel drill (linked below) is about 3 times as powerful.
Check out the link.
https://www.cpomilwaukee.com/factor...-key-connectivity/milr2796-82,default,pd.html
Lastly - consider this. These are tools you will likely have and use for the next 10 or 15 years if they are being used at home. Sometimes when I buy something, I ask myself if the extra money (in this case, $100) will make any difference to me 6 months from now.. to recap, that extra $100 gets you - the best and most powerful drill and impact driver kit, a hammer drill option over a standard drill, one key controls, 2 bigger 5.0 batteries over 2 1.5 batteries, and a hard case over a contractor bag.
I'm not at all trying to talk you OUT of what you picked, just showing you some different options since you don't seem up to date on current models and deal offerings. Pick whatever you think will be best for you, they are all great tools. I know it can be tough switching brands, believe it or not I was a Dewalt guy too in a previous life. I spent hours, .. HOURS, online reading and watching comparison vids before my first Milwaukee purchase. I said "I'm just replace the few 18v tools I already have". Between work and home - tools, lights, clothes, hand tools, accessories, I easily own over 100 Milwaukee products now.
The set you're leaning toward is nice, just FYI I don't think THAT drill is a hammer drill. If you don't need one, then it doesn't matter.. also just in case you're not aware between different brands, - "brushless" does not always mean more powerful. There are some brushed options that spec out more powerful than some other brushless stuff. "Brushless" just means the tool is using a newer type of motor that is actually A/C powered, and digitally controlled. Brushless tools will typically last longer and run cooler, but it's just a newer technology being employed inside the tools.
Within the Milwaukee brand, - Fuel will always be the best. The "brushless" tools you picked will spec out about the same as the brushed m18 versions. Any choice is good here.
If you wanted a hammer drill, here's the m18 compact hammer drill kit for $259. The brushless version is $299 I think.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...t-Driver-Combo-Kit-2-Tool-2697-22CT/202951723
Another option is the refurb route.. CPO has the "Bushless" hammer drill and impact driver set, with a compact and XC battery on sale for $219...the warranty is lessened for the refurb kits, but my first Milwaukee purchase was the gen1 Fuel drill / impact driver combo and they were both in very good shape and I never had a problem with them. Here's the listing, maybe thumb through some other deals on this site too. A lot of times the refurb equipment isn't even repaired, they were just returned for any reason. Even still, refurb tools are inspected individually opposed to stuff just coming off a line, so they are typically checked more carefully. ALOT of us on here have purchased refurbed tools from CPO, and I don't recall anyone having a bad experience. You just give up a big chunk of the warranty period in return for a big discount. You'll still have plenty of time to use the tools with a warranty, and if there was a problem, typically that would show itself sooner than later. I personally have no reservations buying stuff from CPO as refurbs, but sometimes different sales and promos Milwaukee runs will bring the prices of new down so low it doesn't pay to do refurb. Milwaukee also runs the most sales and promos I've ever seen.
https://www.cpomilwaukee.com/factor...mpact-combo-kit/milr2799-82cx,default,pd.html
Milwaukee BY FAR has the best cordless lighting options too.. with their m18 chargers working on m12 batteries too, it makes crossing into both platforms easier. I have a lot for both. I'd never give up my m12 heated jackets..
Lastly - if you can push your budget from $199 to $299, you can get the refurb set of the M18 Milwaukee FUEL One Key, Hammer drill and Impact driver set. You'll also be getting 2 5.0 batteries with this set, which if the set you initially choose, comes with 1.5mah batteries, this would more than triple your battery capacity and runtime. This is the absolute top of the line set from Milwaukee, with Bluetooth control on the tools too via smartphone app. At CPO, A refurb of the same set without the one key option is the same price as a OneKey refurb kit here, so might as well go with the one key, even if ya never use it. For $100 more, you're gaining a big amount of capacity and capabilities. Check it out. You won't even believe the difference over that 14v drill you have. This set is $399 new on the Home Depot site (price was lowered). You also get a hard case with this kit over the contractor bag with the others. Free shipping from CPO too. personally, I'd try to go with this if you have the money to spend. If not, the brushless set won't disappoint you either, but as you can see, that extra $100 gets you a lot in this case. The compact stuff can be nice with the small batteries though cause it cuts down on size and weight, but the Lithium 4.0 and 5.0 packs are about the same size and weight as the old 18v dewalt nicads. Smaller batteries can always be purchased cheap off eBay if you go withbthe bigger kit initially and then decide you want one later. I barely use the 2.0 m18 batteries I have though.
The fuel drill is rated at 1200 inch pounds of peak torque.
The brushless version you picked specs 500 inch pounds..
the brushed version specs out at 525.
Gotta be honest here, these 500 numbers don't seem correct to me, but anyway, that's what's listed.. bottom line here is the fuel drill will be noticeably stronger.
For comparison, the m12 fuel drill specs out at 350 inch pounds, basically saying the gen2 m18 fuel drill (linked below) is about 3 times as powerful.
Check out the link.
https://www.cpomilwaukee.com/factor...-key-connectivity/milr2796-82,default,pd.html
Lastly - consider this. These are tools you will likely have and use for the next 10 or 15 years if they are being used at home. Sometimes when I buy something, I ask myself if the extra money (in this case, $100) will make any difference to me 6 months from now.. to recap, that extra $100 gets you - the best and most powerful drill and impact driver kit, a hammer drill option over a standard drill, one key controls, 2 bigger 5.0 batteries over 2 1.5 batteries, and a hard case over a contractor bag.
I'm not at all trying to talk you OUT of what you picked, just showing you some different options since you don't seem up to date on current models and deal offerings. Pick whatever you think will be best for you, they are all great tools. I know it can be tough switching brands, believe it or not I was a Dewalt guy too in a previous life. I spent hours, .. HOURS, online reading and watching comparison vids before my first Milwaukee purchase. I said "I'm just replace the few 18v tools I already have". Between work and home - tools, lights, clothes, hand tools, accessories, I easily own over 100 Milwaukee products now.
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kctyphoon thanks for all that he info. It gives me a lot more to think of. Also just noticed that you are a union lineman. I was a lineman out of 175 in Tn, but I have moved on the something else. Still an IBEW member though.
Den69rs96
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I have a Bosch 18v 1/2 drill/driver combo. Decent price, powerful and very durable.
BB70Chevelle
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I've always had and used dewalt 18v but just recently decided to make a switch over to milwaukee m12. The smaller size and weight savings was a big factor for me with how I use it at work (hvac tech). Overtime I'll add a lot more of the m12 lineup to my collection.
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Just replaced my 30-year old 9.6v Makita cordless driver/drill (which still works fine!) with this:https://www.cpooutlets.com/makita-b...pack--5-0ah-/mktnbl1850b2dc2x,default,pd.html. Basically 2 free tools from a decent list plus two 5-Amp batteries and a dual charger. Was torn between going with Milwaukee but of all the tool brands I've ever owned Makita always seems to work the best both in terms of reliability and performance. Go into the rental section at Home Depot - most of what they rent is Makita (I don't think they rent any Milwaukee btw). I know GJ bleeds red and basically DeWault, Milwaukee and Makita are all very good brands but I suspect Makita is not as heavily marketed in the big box stores as much and therefore tends to get overlooked. Also, in terms of tool selection they have pretty much anything you would need including tools which use two 18v batteries to give you 36v. Plus, their big 1/2" impact wrench is actually made in Japan.
Wow, that's a great deal. Only $20 more than the OP's link. And the CPO kit has a 4 amp and a 2 amp battery, whereas the Home Depot linked kit only has 2 two amp batteries I think.
Plus the hammer drill would be nice to have, if you need it.
I've never had a problem with refurb tools. The cordless refurbs I've bought over the years have been like brand new. I think they're usually just store returns.
captain14
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If your not in a rush usually HD has a deal going on with the drill kits starting in November
Usually is a variation of a combo kit And get an Additional Tool Or battery free.
Most of the brands are represented somehow.
Usually is a variation of a combo kit And get an Additional Tool Or battery free.
Most of the brands are represented somehow.
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+1 My 18V Bosch combo (drill and impact) has served me very well over the years.
EDIT: Just saw this at Lowes https://www.lowes.com/pd/Bosch-Compact-Tough-4-Tool-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Li-ion-Cordless-Combo-Kit-with-Soft-Case/1000249817
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Here's last years. It's double the price of what the OP linked to, but it is a great deal. Though he may not need the additional tools, if he has corded versions.
Get to pick 2 of the add-ons to the right. The extra batteries and the jobsite radio would excite me. )
I prefer Makita due to the number of devices they have available, but I don't think you can go wrong with Milwaukee either
I saw this deal at Acme Tools. Buy the starter kit for $299 (no tax plus free shipping) and pick two free bare tools
http://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/makita-bl1850b2dc2x
I saw this deal at Acme Tools. Buy the starter kit for $299 (no tax plus free shipping) and pick two free bare tools
http://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/makita-bl1850b2dc2x
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engineer2
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Menards, Ace Hardware, and Lowes do not carry any Makita (at least around here). As everyone knows, HD carries Makita, but mostly the "consumer" products and a smatteing of their "professional" line. Gets confusing when Makita offers 12 kinds of drills and 350 products.
Voi
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I got that deal at my local Makita dealer when Makita was having a sales day.
I had to pay sales tax but got 20% off the $299 price -- so $240 plus tax. I picked the reciprocating saw and 6.5" circular saw as my two bare tools. Store let me "return" the circular saw and pay the difference on the brushless version, which I believe was about $85 extra.
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That's what I got at CPO however they have a larger list of bare tools to choose from.
Having just gone thru this whole analysis what I discovered in this maze of options (current and potential future bare tool purchases) is its all about the batteries. If you get the typical "combo" kit for around $200 you only get 1.5-2.0 AH batteries which is fine if you don't ever plan on buying additional heavier duty tools like 1/2" impact guns which really need 5.0 AH batteries to work properly. Given that the price of 5.0AH batteries are around $130 each then adding those later is basically starting from scratch other than you have the charger. That what I like about the Makita deal - you can pick whichever 2 bare tools you want and you get two 5.0AH batteries and a dual battery charger (which could come in handy if you wanted to buy let's say a hedge trimmer in the 36v version which takes 2 18v batteries).
kctyphoon
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I know I keep pushing your sale price up and up.. but speaking of free tools - I believe if you buy the gen2 m18 fuel drill and impact driver set at Home Depot, you can get the brushed m18 sawzall free... I know I just purchased that deal a few weeks ago for someone at work.. might still be active, but worry about your initial purchase first.
I was in hd today and picked up the fuel sds plus rotary hammer, and I believe the single 5.0 m18 battery still retails for like $135 or something.. one more thing to consider about that bigger set I linked at CPO.. (cause you get 2 in that kit)
Yes, if history repeats itself again, sales at hd will start up soon. Probably after Halloween. Don't remember exactly when it's started the last 2 years. But still - $299 for that one key set will not be seen anywhere else..
I was in hd today and picked up the fuel sds plus rotary hammer, and I believe the single 5.0 m18 battery still retails for like $135 or something.. one more thing to consider about that bigger set I linked at CPO.. (cause you get 2 in that kit)
Yes, if history repeats itself again, sales at hd will start up soon. Probably after Halloween. Don't remember exactly when it's started the last 2 years. But still - $299 for that one key set will not be seen anywhere else..
majorbanjo
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This thread just cost me a lot of money...bought the m18 fuel refurb set recommended above...my first Milwaukee....