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CRXPilot

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Ford techs! I'm about to graduate tech school and will start as an entry-level tech in January. :thumbup:

What I want to know is will this tool set get me started on the right foot or will I be using totally different tools every day (early on)?

Even better; share what you use every day and share pics, stories, money :dunno:

Thanks!
 
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I would recommend starting work and seeing what your coworkers are using. This is what I do and I rarely have buyers remorse.

The set you linked to had several things you won't need as an entry level tech IMO. Just take the line wrenches I would rather have metric if I had to pick one. Test light is antiquated compared to a 100 dollar PowerProbe3. The ratcheting screwdriver is a joke because they only give you one bit. Hope you get where I'm going. The plier set in the set can be picked up ridiculously cheap because they are everywhere during UTI grad season. I live in PHX so I see a lot of grads, your area may vary.



My only advise if you are starting out would be SO god wrenches and GW ratcheting wrenches, This combo will give you good flexibility till you can afford more. I think you can get the god wrenches in ford specific combos, I know you can geta 14-17 which is my go to for yotas.
 

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I agree with fozz. There is a lot of things in that set that you probably won't use for quite awhile, such as any 1/2" drive sockets or ratchets. Concentrate on 1/4" and 3/8" drive. Make sure you have 2 or 3 different length extensions and a universal for both 1/4" and 3/8".

Skip any SAE (English) wrenches or sockets. Ford hasn't used a non-metric fastener in over 20 years !

Get a set of double ended, impact lug nut sockets and torque sticks. Look into a 3/8" battery impact.

PowerProbes are nice, but there is definitely a learning curve.

The most important tool is between your ears !
 

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I assume the SEP price is 50-60% off of that list amount. If you could snag that whole set, new for 2500 bones, you could probably sell off what you didn't need. I have bought most of those tools from tech grads over the years on CL. I'm not sure I have 2500 in them, but ya a lot of wheelin and dealing

If you are paying list, then keep the 5g's and build out a set as others have stated.
 

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yea it would be a nice "starter set"...

but....

i think you'd be better served with less expensive sockets,
channellock or knipex for pliers

couple flip sockets, IR 231 impact,
HF torque wrench for wheels

most modern vehicles have a torx fasteners on them.

spend the big bucks on good ratchets, a few select screwdrivers, torx bits/sockets.

everyone accomplishes the same job using slightly different tools, stay with the basics when you get started, observe what others are using for those "difficult" repairs.

the tools that "joe" uses to complete the job may differ from what "john" uses, you may find somethig else works better for you :dunno:


just my $0.02


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I would start out with one of those very large craftsman specialty sets. Then fill in some specialty stuff and things that are just way better from snap on. Like screwdrivers flex head ratchets pliers etc. the large sets are still USA because they don't move as much and the inventory turns are much slower. Even if you get a discount. Your money will go further this way and you will have a broader collection and be ready to do more. Don't get me wrong. I am not one of those snap on haters quite the opposite actually. I started out with basics from craftsman and filled in the stuff that snap on just did so much better or craftsman didn't make. Make sure it's the USA stuff though.
 

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Forgot to mention a SO 12 point semi deep wobble is a great time saver comapred to tradition wobbles.
 

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Skip any SAE (English) wrenches or sockets. Ford hasn't used a non-metric fastener in over 20 years !

Get a set of double ended, impact lug nut sockets and torque sticks. Look into a 3/8" battery impact.

PowerProbes are nice, but there is definitely a learning curve.

The most important tool is between your ears !

I have a 1993 Bronco and an 1999 F-350 and they are a ******* combination of both SAE/MM.

I would spend the money for SnapOn ratchets and a quality tool box, but even those I would buy used. Everything the tool truck sells can be bought on ebay for a lot less money. There is so much stuff out there that is like new at drastically lower prices. The first time your greasy hands touch a tool it has declined in value, so why not save that money up front?

Also, people have this over the top desire to buy tools that have a tool truck warranty; the fact of the matter is if you use the proper tool for the job you will hardly ever need to warranty a tool. My advice is to research who is the OEM to the tool trucks and buy those products from somebody else without the tool truck markup. A lot of times a rebranded tool will cost 3x more off a tool truck than what that very tool sells for at Sears. Just like everything else guys are into, tools turn into a "big **** contest"; don't put yourself into debt to prove that you have a big ****.
 

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Don't forget the aspirin bottle...you'll need that. Also you might need a hand vacuum pump. Apparently you have to vacuum bleed power steering on fords, sometimes the cooling system, and you can always use it on brakes. Mityvac is a common brand for that.
 

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Don't forget the aspirin bottle...you'll need that. Also you might need a hand vacuum pump. Apparently you have to vacuum bleed power steering on fords, sometimes the cooling system, and you can always use it on brakes. Mityvac is a common brand for that.

Learn something new everyday. How long has this been in place, vacuum bleeding the PS that is. Never once have I been told to do it this way.
 
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I assume the SEP price is 50-60% off of that list amount. If you could snag that whole set, new for 2500 bones, you could probably sell off what you didn't need. I have bought most of those tools from tech grads over the years on CL. I'm not sure I have 2500 in them, but ya a lot of wheelin and dealing

If you are paying list, then keep the 5g's and build out a set as others have stated.

Yep, should be 50% off that price. However I found another set that may be a better fit. But even then, it seems pretty high for what you get.
 

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senor fozz said:
Learn something new everyday. How long has this been in place, vacuum bleeding the PS that is. Never once have I been told to do it this way.

I believe we have talked about it before, usually accomplished with a rubber cone that is inserted into the power steering reservoir.

I just had an idea. If we inserted an air lift coolant filler into the the power steering you could pull a vacuum on the system. The airlift already comes with multiple sizes of adapters.
 
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I worked at a Ford dealership for 7 years..You rarely see anything over 5 yrs old because the factory has jacked the labor prices so high the owners of older cars don't come in unless they are covered by a recall.
 

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Don't forget the aspirin bottle...you'll need that. Also you might need a hand vacuum pump. Apparently you have to vacuum bleed power steering on fords, sometimes the cooling system, and you can always use it on brakes. Mityvac is a common brand for that.

A hand vaccum pump is not a bad thing, but I calling BS on "vacuum" bleeding PS and cooling on Ford. Ford PS pumps are knock off of the old GM design. Nothing special about their racks either.

Almost all new Ford products have electric power assist steering and Ford has publicly stated that they will use that as much as the can in the future. Easier "packaging" and a smidge better fuel economy.

Also, most Ford products for the past 10+ years use a remote mount, pressurized cooling system tank that requires no bleeding.
 

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I worked at a Ford dealership for 7 years..You rarely see anything over 5 yrs old because the factory has jacked the labor prices so high the owners of older cars don't come in unless they are covered by a recall.

Labor prices are set by the dealership which is totally independent of Ford Motor Company.

Labor hour "guidelines" ("book time") are established by Ford. Most techs complain that they are too short.
 
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A hand vaccum pump is not a bad thing, but I calling BS on "vacuum" bleeding PS and cooling on Ford. Ford PS pumps are knock off of the old GM design. Nothing special about their racks either.

Almost all new Ford products have electric power assist steering and Ford has publicly stated that they will use that as much as the can in the future. Easier "packaging" and a smidge better fuel economy.

Also, most Ford products for the past 10+ years use a remote mount, pressurized cooling system tank that requires no bleeding.

Thanks for relieving my anxiety about the PS bleeding. I know I didn't install the best PS parts where I worked, but I glad they didn't come back because I didn't bleed the PS right.
 

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Not once have I used vacuum to bleed power steering system,in training they showed me a contraption but the instructor also agreed its useless.plus most new fords have electic power steering.but vacuum for coolant on most new cars is a necessity!

Moving along.

Op. What's your plan, what school did you go to? Have you spoken to your new employer on what your position will be? Are you going to have any certs?i say stop by the dealer and check out what the other techs who have the position you will get and see what they work with.or figure out your position and come back here.

I went to uti, went through ford fact.i had a job two weeks before I graduated.i started on a matco starter set it was cheaper like 1100,but I paid for it over time because everything sucked.another guy that started with started with the set you posted and he still had to buy more.i thought I was going to start as a porter/ lube tech,nope I got thrown under diesels.

So I had to buy so many more tools to work on diesels,I'm still buying tools.its a non stop cycle,a expensive non stop cycle.if I could do it again I would of bought cheap first, I love snap on but it gets stupid expensive.most people will say don't do credit,but for you may not have the money and it may be your only choice.

So if you go through what I went, you won't need sae.i have a bit but they barely get touched.i would advise a good cart and a small box like I did over a huge pretty box.i would also suggest impact gun, quick disconnect set,1/4 swivle socket set,spark plug socket set to start with.theres othere repeat repairs you will need special sockets and tools I can go into but don't want to waste your money if you don't end up with that.

Good luck, hope you are ready for this.
 
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I've been at a ford dealer for 11 years. Started with craftsman and worked my way through mac and now all I have is Matco and snap on. I would go with the ford kit if you can afford it. If you stay in this business you will need everything in that kit.
 
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Good luck, hope you are ready for this.

Wow. Food for thought. Thanks.

Yeah, UTI and Ford FACT. All 11 certs and I will start as an entry level tech.

Currently UTI and Snap-On offer a $605 voucher that's only good for a few sets or you can spend over $900 and apply that $605 to your total. All with a 50% discount from list prices. I've (finally) got some money in my pocket so I'm not looking to go into debt, just hoping to maximize my investment while I have the discount available.

Good stuff. Keep it coming :thumbup:
 

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If you have 100 bucks I would try and pick up the MAC plier set that is currently on sale. The dikes i got with mine sucked maybe this year will be better. They dulled quickly have a loosish joint I keep them around as abuse dikes.
 

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With tools, even if you buy one brand but then start buying a different brand after you start working, you can always take the stuff you no longer use home for your home tool box.

Craftsman has 540 piece mechanic's sets for $999. Though with the Snap-On discount, it might be wise to go with a SO set of tools.

Don't forget Harbor Freight has some nice tool boxes and carts that are reasonably priced.
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Wow. Food for thought. Thanks.

Yeah, UTI and Ford FACT. All 11 certs and I will start as an entry level tech.

Currently UTI and Snap-On offer a $605 voucher that's only good for a few sets or you can spend over $900 and apply that $605 to your total. All with a 50% discount from list prices. I've (finally) got some money in my pocket so I'm not looking to go into debt, just hoping to maximize my investment while I have the discount available.

Good stuff. Keep it coming :thumbup:

I remember that stupid voucher, they sold it as you getting $1000 worth of tools upon graduation.i was so pissed, and that $900 kit is a joke.i remember it was $600 or two points in a one page catalog with tools at one point or .5 point.

What I did was use the points for a 50-250 1/2 torque wrench and 50-100 3/8 torque wrench and also the cheap blue point 1/2 impact gun with the snappy 1/2 sae and metric impact sockets.then I used my saved cash to buy the damned matco set.do not go matco.

I figured you were uti and fact,I asked for a reason. Hopefully you will end up at a cool small dealer like I'm at now not like the huge big time dealer I started at.you are getting this job for one reason and one reason only, say hello to warranty! They want you for your certs to claim more warranty work.hopefully it's a cool dealer and the put you on the lube rack first to see what you can do,not throw you into warranty repairs.if they do then you will be massively under prepared with tools.

Warranty....?....flat rate?....:eyecrazy:

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I can't make a tool list as I own a too much tools and multiple boxes at largest ford shop...

You need big sae wrench as 1-1/16, 1-1/8, 1-1/4, 1-5/16 wrenches.

I went overboard on tools but it help me to get repairs easier and get me out of troubles.
 

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I can't make a tool list as I own a too much tools and multiple boxes at largest ford shop...

You need big sae wrench as 1-1/16, 1-1/8, 1-1/4, 1-5/16 wrenches.

I went overboard on tools but it help me to get repairs easier and get me out of troubles.

Yea there's way to many tools to list without knowing what he's getting into.though a basic starter set won't cut it if he's downing more than just oil changes.
 

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Heavy line? Wow been a while since I heard of that, my shop is a "do what you get or pass it on" kind of shop.no room for specialists.
 

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Take the deal on the half off set, leave it in the box and sell or trade to match up to what you actually need.

When you figure out how to remove a Ford coolant crossover plug please post it.
 

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I wouldn't touch those giant sets, even at half off. A lot of it you won't even use, like the 1/2 chrome socket set in standard, and the 3 other standard sets they threw in for good measure. You'll want some standard sockets but for how often you'll need them, even at 50% off, its hard to justify snap-on. My 2 cents, take the $2500 and hop on ebay once you have established what you'll really need, you won't take much of a hit if you shop wisley.

I would get a KRSC46 while you have your student discount though but that's me and I love my full drawer carts. I think its about $1000.

Keep in mind you have discounts with Matco, Mac, Cornwell, Craftsman, and SK also. Matco in particular has some really great deals during these holiday months.
 
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So do you not have any tools right now? As a tech starting out fresh out of school, you really don't need much. Working at a dealership makes it that much easier.

Screw driver set
3/8 metric/sae sockets.... Go with semi deep if you don't want to fork out for shallow and deep.
hex/torx bits or drivers

My most commonly used sockets are metric 3/8 drive universals and for wrenches I have a set of flex head ratcheting wrenches. That gets most of everything I do done. I r&r trannys on just about everything and rarely need anything special... Maybe the occasional tripple square, but never on a ford. Don't overthink what you need, you'll drive yourself crazy.

When I started as a tech at a ford dealer I was fresh out of asset and wish I had taken advantage of the 1/2 of deal sooner. I chose what I wanted, test light, meter, fuel injection kit, some 1/2 imp sockets.... The more expensive things really.

Take advantage of the discount, buy what you need, but don't get a kit if you don't think you'll use half the things in it... Make your own kit... I woulnd't bother with ebay... Buy new, you'll never regret it.
 

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Heavy line? Wow been a while since I heard of that, my shop is a "do what you get or pass it on" kind of shop.no room for specialists.

My work have two service dept as one is general service and other one is heavy line service as diesel, engine, trans, etc. I am in heavy line as my work want me to do that.

I will do almost all works except not a noise like nvh or wind noise... Not worth to waste my time!
 
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