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tck4x4

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Finally started my Garage project. After wanting it for four years, I found that if you want a garage, all you have to do is give a contrator a check.
I gave him the check yesterday (Sat.) and he was out digging today (Sun).
He said it will take one to two months, so we will see.
Specs: 28 x 30 with 9 ft walls (I wanted 12 ft, but local codes only allow 16 ft grade to peak.
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Cold water
18 x 8 Wayne Dalton door
20ft x 20 ft pad out front
4 windows and a man door
 

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Why not get hot water as well? I didn't want to heat a full tank full of water for the garage, but I found a GE 2 gallon water heater that runs off 110 volts. I ran a dedicated outlet for it so it wouldn't overload any circuits, and put it on a switch. Price was under $200 CDN at Home Depot.
 

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Der Bugmeister said:
Why not get hot water as well? I didn't want to heat a full tank full of water for the garage, but I found a GE 2 gallon water heater that runs off 110 volts. I ran a dedicated outlet for it so it wouldn't overload any circuits, and put it on a switch. Price was under $200 CDN at Home Depot.

I did the same thing.

With custom trusses, you might be able to get 12' in the middle.

Regarding giving a contractor a check... I hope it was merely a partial payment. Be sure to be on top of the guy's work and make sure he shows up.

Good luck.
 

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The builder that did my framing didn't require payment ahead of time, just enough to get him started. I bought my own lumber package and most other items, but I was into him for thousands in labor and concrete and blocks.
However, he was still owed fourteen thousand when he finished......we never signed nothing for what I owed,either. His idea is that his work will make the customer happy and I can be added to that list........ Keith
 
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I paid 50% up front, then 35% when under roof, 15% at completion.
He has done work for my family before, and I checked his references.
The 50% will cover the materials, 35% his sub-contractors, 15% his
labor and profit. Seemed fair to me, and this keeps him a low overhead
type of contractor.
It the weather holds out, the footers should get inspected and poured today.
In the future, I plan to insulate, drywall, and add more outlets, and possibly
a bathroom. I plan to that work myself, at a slower pace. For now I need to get it under roof and sealed up before winter.
 
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The footer passed inspection, and they started the block work.
It is moving right along.
 

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tck4x4 said:
I wanted 12 ft, but local codes only allow 16 ft grade to peak.

Doesn't that bite? We have the same height restriction here and I was really diappointed because I wanted to set up a little loft above the garage.

Looks like you're making great progress! Keep sending pictures! :thumbup:
 
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More progress today. Ready to pour slabs.
Floor drains, base gravel, and water hydrant are in.
They don't plan to pour until Saturday, so it may be quiet
for a few days.
 

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I am begining to think I am this guys side job, but he is still making great progress. They poured the floor and slab on Saturday then did the sawing on Sunday.
 

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Finally some more progress.
Amish framers put the door at 18' X 7'tall, soon they will be changing it to 8' tall.
The supervisor screwed up. However, they will be in trouble fitting it all in.'
Max 16' peak to grade. The door is 8' tall, 15" header, 7'-4" tall truss, doesn't quite add up. I guess the will be notching the truss for the header.
 

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Thanks, it is turning out nice.
They fixed the header today, and added the roof.
Now it looks like a garage.
 

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No driveway planned. The dirt around here is very hard. If you dig down, there is about 2" of top soil then a combination of gravel and clay that no shovel can penetrate. Using a maddox is only way to dig anything. And the garage is mainly for storage, car maintenance, and a possible boat. The daily drivers go in the front attached garage.
 
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tck4x4 said:
Specs: 28 x 30 with 9 ft walls (I wanted 12 ft, but local codes only allow 16 ft grade to peak.
100 amp service
Cold water
18 x 8 Wayne Dalton door
20ft x 20 ft pad out front
4 windows and a man door

When I built my last garage the code in Edmonton was measured to the middle of the roof truss instead of the peak. A little wierd I thought but it worked out I had 9' walls with a 6" curb on the pad. The funny thing is the inspector didn't even look at it when he came.
 

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tck4x4 said:
Thanks, it is turning out nice.
They fixed the header today, and added the roof.
Now it looks like a garage.

What's up with the header? Looks different than I'm used to seeing...
 
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It is some kind of glued laminated board, a solid 3 1/2" X 12" tall.
It must be popular around here, they used quite a few of them in our house.
The header looks nice, cabinet grade lumber, you could stain it and leave it exposed.

Hopefully, it will be used for a hobby car someday. I could see a lifted '97 Land Cruiser in there, or maybe a boat.

But for now, it will be used as tractor and kids toy storage. This will free up the attached garage, so I will be able to get my car in.
 

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My header is like that too, a large manufactured wood piece that goes from end to end (beyond the door opening). I'm guessing it's a code thing. Stout for sure!
 

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tck4x4 said:
It is some kind of glued laminated board, a solid 3 1/2" X 12" tall.
It must be popular around here, they used quite a few of them in our house.

They're referred to as LVLs - laminated veneer lumber. The benefits over solid wood are that they are more consistant throughout (no knots or other defects) can be made to longer lengths without hitting the premium for taller trees, and are straighter and more dimensionally stable than solid wood.
 
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They put the shingles on, and finished the wrap.
 

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Some of the siding installed.
When will it be finished? I need to get the lawn furniture out of the yard.
 

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Almost done.
Electric hooked up.
Water is on.
Rough inspection passed.
If it dries out around here, we will back fill the trench and grade around the garage next week.
 

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More pictures.
 

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Yes, it will be heated eventually.
I have some electric base board laying around, I'll use them
if I can figure a good way of mounting them.
Or I might just buy some overhead electric blower units.
Right now I need to add some outlets and lights. Then insulate, drywall, and add an opener. Then cabinets, and last is heat and paint.
 
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Down under please read my previous post.

I moved all the junk to the new garage, now named "the barn" by the wife. And now I can get the my car into the attached garage. Has anyone out there figured out how to take a picture without getting your 3 yr old in it. If you try to take a picture of him he will run away, but try to take a picture of something else, and he's in it.

Bought the insulation at Lowes, the next step has started.

The exterior is complete now, just waiting for the final inspection.
 

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Yes, it is nice to have the car inside.
Call me a wimp, but I really hate scaping the frost off the
windows. And it is nice to have the car semi warm in the morning.
The attached garage is insulated and house wrapped so it stays
above 40F, even in the dead of winter. It is also nice to banish the
lawn mowers to "the barn". Now the garage doesn't smell like moldy
grass and gasoline.
 
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Not much has happened for a while. The final inspection was held up because my city has outlawed freeze proof hydrants. One of these was cemented into my garage floor in September. They were outlawed in November, and no grandfather exceptions allowed. So my final inpection failed, and expert plumbers have been scratching their heads ever since. Today they are tearing up the garage floor to remove the hydrant, and install a regular hose bib.
Watch out, these hydrants are everywhere, fairgrounds, garden centers, and farms, but according to our local inspector these will need to be removed, if anyplace needs a new permit, and has hydrants are connected to the system.
 

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That s*&^

Afraid I'm not familiar with freeze proof hydrants, what’s the difference between old and new. Couldn’t you just change the faucet (tap) without touching the standpipe?.
 
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The hydrant actually stuts the water off about three feet below ground. Then the water left in the standpipe runs downs and leaks out into an area of gravel underground.

The plumbers completed the transformation today, so we will call for the final inspection tomorrow.
Wish me luck.
 
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