New garage door

[Learninggal]

We have a 40yr old solid redwood garage door 10x7 in the north east which is rotten on the bottom and needs replacement. The motor and railing system still in working condition. We had two different garage door guys came and gave us two quotes. One quoted Amarr uninsulated lincoln series 1000 2" no windows with new railing and motor for $3100 and another quoted Hormann insulated door orion 3400 1.5" with windows using current railing and motor for $2100. Our garage is not insulated and we don't store any perishable in the garage. The 2nd contractor can order from Wayne Dalton, General doors and other Hormann too. To reuse my current rails which are in great condition, I have to go with 1.5 but it's only a $80 savings so I can put new rails on if you think I should go with a thicker door. He tested our Chamberlain HD200D which is working fine too and only been used for 7-8 yrs. We are cost conscious but obviously want a door to last at least 15 yrs. This is a detached garage that's just used for storage (Max 1 opening/day is what I expect since we also have a side door to the garage) so will only use main garage door to take bikes out. Thanks

 

[jstroede]

Those prices are insane. I know you are in an expensive area, but you are looking for a basic door.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Wayne-Dalton-Wayne-Dalton-Classic-Steel-Model-9100-10-ft-x-7-ft-White-Single-Garage-Door/5001751483

Ideal Door® Traditional 10' x 7' White Non-Insulated Garage Door

Traditional Steel Panel garage doors feature a design that works with every home without sacrificing style for strength, durability and comfort. This GOOD construction garage door is non-insulated. It offers dependable construction with long-lasting operation providing you with a great door...

www.menards.com

If you have a big box store, that's probably your best route for this. That WD door is a basic insulated door.

Replace the whole door. Don't try and reuse the tracks. There are times, but if your door is that old, replace it all. Track isn't expensive.

 

[Skyman]

Have you considered seeing if there's a local craftsman who would be capable of replicating and replacing the bottom of your solid redwood door? That sounds like a rather nice door to just give up on.

 

[Learninggal]

We can find a local person to replace panels and paint the whole door since it's chipping everywhere but labor rates means it'll cost us $1000 for this + future added maintenance which means expensive in the long run. We do like the door and hence kept it this long

I have a lot of big box stores by me but can't find any 10x7 door in brown. If I land up finding one, what should labor cost be approximation for installation?

 

[jstroede]

Go to the special order window and door area, or the customer service desk. It will not be in stock, but they can order it.

Installation cost should be in the neighborhood of $300 to $500 through a box store probably, and funny thing is it could be one of the same guys you talked to come out and install it.

 

[jstroede]

I just went through Menards custom order page. It was able to do a brown uninsulated door. Doing that and adding a strut for the opener, it showed me like $650. That was for a 25 ga door. I would go to a 24 ga if you can. It shouldn't cost that much more, like $50 or so maybe. This type of door should be available at any big box type store through special order.

 

[BillK]

If I land up finding one, what should labor cost be approximation for installation?

If you are not going to install it yourself I dont think its fair to expect a company to install it without charging you a premium, if they would do it at all. Sort of like wanting to take you own parts to the auto repair shop

 

[jstroede]

Those companies do contract installs for the box stores all the time. I'm not saying they all do, but Lowes and HD don't have their own installers.

 

[CraigStu]

I had a door installed by HD years ago and was very happy w/ the guy and his work. I figured that the guy would have to do good work or HD would drop him. I also figured, if there was a problem, maybe I'd do better arguing w/ HD vs a local guy on his own.

 

[Hank11]

I’d fix the door you have now. I have done several and its not hard to do well if you know what you are doing. It does require a skilled craftsman. $1,000 sounds about right for a quality job.

 

[nadogail]

Over the years I have found a local company that sells and services garage doors and openers.

They have been a good resource for parts and service

 

[reader2580]

I just went through Menards custom order page. It was able to do a brown uninsulated door. Doing that and adding a strut for the opener, it showed me like $650. That was for a 25 ga door. I would go to a 24 ga if you can. It shouldn't cost that much more, like $50 or so maybe. This type of door should be available at any big box type store through special order.

I bought one of those uninsulated doors from Menards. They are cheap because they are ****. I swear the roll of aluminum foil in my kitchen is just as thick. I previously had an uninsulated door from Doorlink. It was twice the door that the Ideal door is. The Doorlink door got damaged, or I would still have it.

 

[reader2580]

I had a door installed by HD years ago and was very happy w/ the guy and his work. I figured that the guy would have to do good work or HD would drop him. I also figured, if there was a problem, maybe I'd do better arguing w/ HD vs a local guy on his own.

I’ve heard only the desperate work for HD because HD doesn’t pay well. Those who do good work can make more money elsewhere.

My parents ordered a custom solid surface vanity top from HD in Feb 2022 which was supposed to be installed in six to eight weeks. It finally got installed in October or November. The guy doing the install said it had been fabricated for months, but HD couldn’t find anyone to do the install. The installer’s employer had just recently started doing work for HD again.

 

[jstroede]

I bought one of those uninsulated doors from Menards. They are cheap because they are ****. I swear the roll of aluminum foil in my kitchen is just as thick. I previously had an uninsulated door from Doorlink. It was twice the door that the Ideal door is. The Doorlink door got damaged, or I would still have it.

Well the thickest door that doorlink makes is 24 ga. Crazy as it seems, there are 27 ga uninsulated doors out there as well. 25 ga is marginal at best, but 24 ga generally makes for a pretty decent door. That's why I made the recommendation.

 

[Stuart in MN]

If you know who built the door originally, they may be able to sell you a replacement bottom section without it having to be a custom job.

 

[reader2580]

Well the thickest door that doorlink makes is 24 ga. Crazy as it seems, there are 27 ga uninsulated doors out there as well. 25 ga is marginal at best, but 24 ga generally makes for a pretty decent door. That's why I made the recommendation.

You recommended the Menards uninsulated door by Ideal (a Clopay brand). It is only available in 25 gauge. I just went through the ordering tool and there is no option for 24 gauge, or anything besides 25 gauge.

The OP can buy one if they want. I was just giving my personal experience/opinion about how thin it is, and how much of a piece of junk I think it is. The Doorlink door may not have been much thicker, but it seemed like a much better door. The hinges included with the Ideal door are both narrower and thinner than any other door hardware I have seen, including the Doorlink hardware.

I would only buy one if I was selling a house and needed a new door to make the house presentable. A used insulated steel door from Facebook Marketplace is likely to be a better door if it is in decent condition.

 

[jstroede]

You recommended the Menards uninsulated door by Ideal (a Clopay brand). It is only available in 25 gauge. I just went through the ordering tool and there is no option for 24 gauge, or anything besides 25 gauge.

The OP can buy one if they want. I was just giving my personal experience/opinion about how thin it is, and how much of a piece of junk I think it is. The Doorlink door may not have been much thicker, but it seemed like a much better door. The hinges included with the Ideal door are both narrower and thinner than any other door hardware I have seen, including the Doorlink hardware.

I would only buy one if I was selling a house and needed a new door to make the house presentable. A used insulated steel door from Facebook Marketplace is likely to be a better door if it is in decent condition.

Just because it isn't on the special order website doesn't mean its not available. It was only given as an example and ballpark price anyway. I have no idea what stores they have around them. Go to the store and ask. Guess what, doorlink makes 25 ga and 27 ga uninsulated doors too. Pretty much every manufacturer does. For what the OP is using the door for, almost anything will work. Oh and by the way, doorlink sells 90 percent of their product as sections only, so in almost all cases wholesaler or installer is sourcing their own hardware.

Finding a 10x7 used door for sale in good condition is probably not happening.