Duffman77
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Hello All,
So I have been lurking here for a while and finally decided to post. I bought my home last fall, it has a single car 14'x20' that is very old and only good for keeping the rain off the objects inside, its time is very limited.
My municipality limits my non-attached buildings to 12% of my lot area and my plan is to build up to that limit. Due to my lot dimensions I plan to go with a 22'x40' with the doors on the 22' side. I also want to do approximately 12' walls, this will require neighbourhood approval because I will be over the standard regulation height. I am also leaning towards 2x6 wall on either 16” or 24” centers. I could use some advice on that.
Plans are to do radiant floor at some point (maybe second year if not immediately), power that with a boiler on natural gas. Plans are to insulate the living **** out of this building, using closed cell insulation in the interiors walls, extruded foam on the exterior and cellulose in the ceiling. Windows have not been thought out yet, I want 2 smaller energy efficient windows that open. Doors are to be high R ones without windows. The automotive doors will be high lift style, one will be 9x6 and the other 9x7.
Due to my pad size and dimensions I need to have my concrete engineered, getting my drawing stamped is not the problem, knowing what I need to build is. As per the regulation sheet:
http://www.edmonton.ca/bylaws_licences/detached_garage_application_form.pdf
(If it displays an error, save the pdf and open it from your desktop, it will then work)
So if I stuck to 728 sq ft I could have a simple slab with reinforced edges, it looks like they want me to use a “grade beam pile”. I don’t have a problem that or some of the extra cost, again I am somewhat clueless as to the dimensions. My initial guess is a t-shaped beam with 18” footing and a 6” wall. Depth again is a wildcard, Edmonton Frost depth is apparently 2.3m which is 90.5” or 7.55'. The pad will be heated with in floor so I understand that raises the frost depth but the fact that I am insulating that reduces the effect of heating again. This garage is only going to have 3-4 cars in it and maybe 2 hoists in the future bring the total to 6, the biggest would be an F350, I realize that I need more than a basic 4” slab but how much more do I need that the 12x12” thickened edge slab that is good up to 728 sq ft?
I hope to put a spec up for further scrutiny and some pictures and lot drawings in the next week, any help/advice in the mean time would be appreciated.
So I have been lurking here for a while and finally decided to post. I bought my home last fall, it has a single car 14'x20' that is very old and only good for keeping the rain off the objects inside, its time is very limited.
My municipality limits my non-attached buildings to 12% of my lot area and my plan is to build up to that limit. Due to my lot dimensions I plan to go with a 22'x40' with the doors on the 22' side. I also want to do approximately 12' walls, this will require neighbourhood approval because I will be over the standard regulation height. I am also leaning towards 2x6 wall on either 16” or 24” centers. I could use some advice on that.
Plans are to do radiant floor at some point (maybe second year if not immediately), power that with a boiler on natural gas. Plans are to insulate the living **** out of this building, using closed cell insulation in the interiors walls, extruded foam on the exterior and cellulose in the ceiling. Windows have not been thought out yet, I want 2 smaller energy efficient windows that open. Doors are to be high R ones without windows. The automotive doors will be high lift style, one will be 9x6 and the other 9x7.
Due to my pad size and dimensions I need to have my concrete engineered, getting my drawing stamped is not the problem, knowing what I need to build is. As per the regulation sheet:
http://www.edmonton.ca/bylaws_licences/detached_garage_application_form.pdf
(If it displays an error, save the pdf and open it from your desktop, it will then work)
So if I stuck to 728 sq ft I could have a simple slab with reinforced edges, it looks like they want me to use a “grade beam pile”. I don’t have a problem that or some of the extra cost, again I am somewhat clueless as to the dimensions. My initial guess is a t-shaped beam with 18” footing and a 6” wall. Depth again is a wildcard, Edmonton Frost depth is apparently 2.3m which is 90.5” or 7.55'. The pad will be heated with in floor so I understand that raises the frost depth but the fact that I am insulating that reduces the effect of heating again. This garage is only going to have 3-4 cars in it and maybe 2 hoists in the future bring the total to 6, the biggest would be an F350, I realize that I need more than a basic 4” slab but how much more do I need that the 12x12” thickened edge slab that is good up to 728 sq ft?
I hope to put a spec up for further scrutiny and some pictures and lot drawings in the next week, any help/advice in the mean time would be appreciated.