New garage in Kentucky

[Dustoff 35]

I found this site a few weeks ago, what a great site. I started my detached 30'x44' stick built garage fall of 2005. The objective was, and still is, to get my project car, an FFR cobra out of the attached two car garage so we can fit the drivers in there. We had to take down about 20 large, old-growth Ash, Hickory, Walnut and Maple trees. Hated to do that but it all went to a good use. The green Hickory went to a well-known barbeque place up in Cincinatti, the Walnut has been set aside for a future woodworking project and the Maple & Ash we are still burning in the fireplace.

Fast forward to: Early Fall 2006:

Excavation for the driveway & footers, its surprising how fast the pros get it done.

Footer happenned on the next day.

Two days after the footer was poured, it rained. Hard. I had to drain water and mud out of the excavation and believe me, it was a mess. No pics of that, I don't want to remember...

Forms about a week later.

I'll continue this post later, gotta go get some lunch for the kids.

 

[Baer]

Looks like a nice location! Off to a good start!

 

[Dustoff 35]

We love the location, our four seasons are winter, spring, summer and leaf-blowing season.

Foundation wall pour, needed a pump truck.

Used up the remainder of the rebar, about half a ton, in the floor. Laid plastic down first and then wired the rebar up onto 2 inch chairs.

We had the concrete tinted prior to the pour, a dark charcoal gray. It was then sealed with a tinted xylene based sealer by the guy who did the flatwork.

 

[DynoDave]

That tinted concrete looks very nice!

 

[RattytatTom]

Nice concrete.
Why the tint v.s. epoxy paint later? Was this a cost-based decision?
Having the concrete tinted prior to the pour added how much to the concrete cost?
Thanks !

 

[Dustoff 35]

I couldn't find any epoxy floor installers in this area and I've heard too many stories about chipping and peeling to try and do it myself. the tinting goes all the way through the slab so if it chips, no big deal. The tint cost an additional $45 per yard, 24 yards, so it cost just over a grand.

The sealer, resi-seal? is xylene based and if / when it gets scratched, you just swab it down with xylene and re-apply. I haven't done this yet , I'l wait until the sheetrock is up.

 

[wrenchr]

git r done!!

 

[awakeinAZ]

Looking good!!!

 

[Kevin54]

I also like the tinted concrete. Why didn't you put a drain in the garage and run it out the side? Or are you not going to have water in there? I see other pipe coming up thru the floor. Electrical I assume? Nice looking house also. Looks like a great location for everything. Can't wait to see the build pics, and the car that goes in there.

 

[Dustoff 35]

Kevin- We did install a floor drain, it is centered between the first two bays. The third bay is flat, to accommodate a future lift. If you look close in the rebar pics, you can just see the 3" pvc sticking up with the cast-iron drain resting on top. Hard to see the drain in the finished floor pics as the drain is black and the floor is dark gray.

Here are some framing pics, we had a local truss manufacturer (Piercefield) put the whole package together. Wall panels were pre-built in the factory and delivered on pallets. Piercefield's crew erected the entire structure in about two and a half days, two of those days the weather was poor.

 

[Z27]

That looks like a great garage. Plenty of room for toys.

What part of Northern Ky are you in?

 

[RattytatTom]

We too, have a heavily wooded, lot(s) with old growth trees. As I hope to put up a large (50x100) building, I just hate the thought of removing ANY trees. I noticed from the pics that it looks like you took out only what was necessary.
You have large trees right next to your build. Any fears of trees falling over or roots invading your concrete someday ?
Any thoughts about tucking the building right in the woods?

 

[Dustoff 35]

Z27- Thanks, we are in Boone county.

RattytatTom- I had an arborist help me determine which ones needed to go and which ones were okay to stay based on the footprint of the excavation.

I keep a pretty close eye on all of our trees, our driveway is half a mile long and tree lined as well. I've learned the hard way to be proactive and take down the risky ones on my schedule rather than mother nature's schedule.

I like my trees, but I'm not afraid to use the chainsaw. If ever one does come down during a storm onto the garage or house well, that's what insurance is for. No, I'm not too worried about roots, the drain tile is burried way down at the footer, the back wall is 12 inches thick and the sides are 8 inches thick.

Roofing going up:

Roofing done, garage doors in, Azek trim going up.

 

[jimbodakota]

The weather there looks great, just like it's supposed to in December -- COLD! It was in the 80's last week here in SC. The garage looks great!

Jim

 

[WolverineCoatings]

The weather there looks great, just like it's supposed to in December -- COLD! It was in the 80's last week here in SC. The garage looks great!

Jim

No doubt... I'm in SC too... but... we got 27f tonight...

Anyway... I love your build... I know what you mean about hating to cut down all of those quality trees. Do you get free BBQ?

 

[Dustoff 35]

Thanks, guys. Wx isn't too cold here, I lived in Wyoming for a while, worked on the oil fields in the winter. Minus 65 degrees farenheit? That was cold. Its balmy here by comparison.

No free BBQ, but I did get some free stump grinding from the guy who cut up the green hickory and sold it.

 

[Dustoff 35]

Here is a picture of the siding going up, James Hardie cedarmill, a Pacific Tools fiber cement shear was used to cut it. Cutting with the shear creates virtually no dust and is quick. The Azek cellular PVC trim is nice too, cuts routs and nails like wood, takes paint nicely and no rot.

 

[Dustoff 35]

Okay, fresh pictures just took these a few hours ago...

Dormers trimmed out & painted, all but a small patch on the last one.

Inside shots:
I have a w12 40# beam that spans the first two bays. Two 4" sch 40 steel columns suport the beam, plenty of capacity for a trolley & chain hoist for pulling engines!

Upstairs studio, bathroom roughed-in:

Next is to wrap up the electrical rough, insulate and sheetrock. I'll post those pics as the work is completed.

 

[Joe Grippo]

Wow! Killer build...Love those garage doors also..

 

[JMURiz]

Wow! Killer build...Love those garage doors also..

Agreed, those look like the Amarr doors I have, 3-section insulated doors? Are you using the same ones? Looks great, awesome use of space!

 

[Dustoff 35]

Yes, they are the Amarr doors, Tuscany model with the Madiera windows across the top. Good eye.

They are insulated and have an R value of 5.65. They are so much nicer than the doors on the attached garage that my wife wants the same doors put there also.

 

[T1704]

Wow, great build. The trim work on the dormers looks great. Are you planning to put a lift in the high bay or will that remain a basketball court?

 

[PAToyota]

Very nice. I like how it complements the house. Did you do the trim work yourself? How is the Azek to work with? I've been considering it myself for a few projects.

 

[69396ss]

Awesome Garage.

I'm also in Boone County (Florence) so we're neighbors.

So anybody who builds a Garage like that has Toys...... What have you got, anything Fun?

 

[Dustoff 35]

Thanks guys.

T1704- I do plan to put a four-post lift in the high bay, I think bend-pak has one with casters so that it can be rolled into one of the other bays. You never know when the need for a quick game of one-on-one will arise!

PAToyota- We did do the trim ourselves, with help from family and friends. The Azek works well but will chip or crack if you try to nail too close to the edges in temps below 40 or so. It works like wood with all the tools you would normally use on wood. It can be heated and formed into an arc. You can paint it, or leave it white. Since it is PVC, you can glue it with regular PVC cement, if you are quick enough...
Or you can buy the rather expensive AZEK adhesive that has a much longer open time. The Azek is a little on the pricey side but then again it is a premium product and I'm not disapointed at all. I would use it again and probably will as the siding and trim on the detached garage is now much nicer than what is on the house.

69396ss- Hey, neighbor, I do have a toy, a Factory Five Racing Cobra replica that I am building. Its kind of a stalled project right now due to the garage build. Ive got the chassis and powertrain in the attached garage, the body at a friend's warehouse in Florence, more parts in the basement, etc...

Chassis:

Engine on dyno:

http://s113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/dustoff35/?action=view&current=cm.flv

Sorry, didn't mean to go off on a cobra tangent!

 

[bluesman2a]

Sorry, didn't mean to go off on a cobra tangent!

A) I don't think ANYbody would expect an apology for such a FINE digression.
B) Aren't such digressions what we all come here FOR?

Not my normal thing, but it looks like a FINE project you have there sir, looks like it'll have a very nice new home too.

 

[69396ss]

Garages and Toys go together.

Here's mine: Get that Cobra done and I'll show you the local show circuit, lots happening around here.

http://community-2.webtv.net/johnlord/1970ChevelleSSLS6M22/



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[Dustoff 35]

69396SS- Very nice on both of yours. I did a frame-off on a '73 454 vette a few years back so I can appreciate the time and effort expended on that Chevelle. I'll be in touch for the local stuff, only been here a few years and am not yet plugged in. I sure do miss all those car shows & swap meets I used to go to in the Chicagoland area...

 

[69396ss]

Oh Pal, you won't be missing anything around here. It's nothing to see Hemi Cuda's rolling into the local Shows. The guys take their cars seriously around here. Tons going on. Evry Friday they have the Quaker Steak and Lube cruise in in Milford with Several hundred cars, Tons of National events, Good Guys, Muscle car Nationals, Street Rod Nationals all in COlumbux, Louisvile and Indy, stuff going on every weekend.

Get wrenching

 

[Quiksilver]

That is a great looking garage you have. I am a neighbor to you as well. My wife and I live on the east side of Cincinnati in Amelia. The car scene in the area is great, I have a 2001 Mustang. But, you are building my dream car. I would love to check it out sometime, or just let me know if you need me to drool on it while you are putting it the rest of the way together.

 

[Boosted1]

Nice looking Chevelle.

 

[Donut Dave]

Great build, great pic's, the car project isn't bad either...
Thanks for showing us how it done in Kentucky!!!

 

[mustangboy]

Thanks to Quicksilver who posted the link to this site on our local Mustang website I found this place. This place kicks ****!! Anyway I too am a neighbor to you N. KY guys. I live in Independence so am only minutes from you. Dustoff I love the garage and hope to start my own project, very similar to yours, in the next couple of years. My 2 3/4 garage is no where near big enough for all the toys. BTW where did you have the motor built and dynoed? Keep the pics coming.

 

[Dustoff 35]

Thanks guys. Unfortunately, the cobra build is on the back burner until the garage is a little more complete. I need to insulate, sheetrock and finish the siding before I can resume work on it. The garage has become a project unto itself.

Kind of the story of my life the past few years; We've moved twice and my wife and I have had two children since I started building the Cobra... Even still, one of my objectives for this year is to be driving it before we hit 2009.

Mustangboy- The motor was built and dynoed by Russ at LAM engines in Kenosha, WI. Best run: 401 hp, 398 lb.ft. of torque. 351W, .040 over, DSS stud girdle & windage tray, Eagle H-rods, K.B. pistons, Edelbrock Perf. RPM cam, heads & intake, B.Grant carb.

 

[dodgepolara500]

Here is a picture of the siding going up, James Hardie cedarmill, I bought a pacific tools fiber cement shear to cut it. Cutting with the shear creates virtually no dust and is quick. The Azek cellular PVC trim is nice too, cuts routs and nails like wood, takes paint nicely and no rot.

I used James Hardie siding on my house remodel as well. I used the sheets and added batons to it to creat a craftsman style house. I wanted something that would need no maintenace and would hold paint for a long time. I was really happy with it as well.

 

[Mr. Welsh]

Why the tint v.s. epoxy paint later? Was this a cost-based decision?

Tinted concrete is more durable than epoxy.

Your concrete tint was very expensive...did you have it tinted on-site or at the batch plant?

The garage looks great! How does it sit relative to your house? It looks like it's at a higher elevation.

 

[Dustoff 35]

Mr. Welsh- Thanks. The concrete was tinted at the plant to maintain color contistency. My additional cost for the tinting and sealcoat was about $1000, this included a fee to washout the 3 trucks that delivered the tinted concrete. The pad is probably a little on the thick side but better too thick than too thin. 24 yards into a 30 x 44 pad.

The cost for tinting the concrete was about $250 more than UCoatit epoxy materials. I have already chipped the tinted concrete (nail gun, don't ask...) nice thing is- the color runs all the way through the slab and you can hardly tell.

Topographically, the garage does sit at a higher elevation than the house, probably 8-10 feet. The roofline of the garage still sits lower than the highest roofline of the house. Excavating the garage into the hillside helped keep it in scale with the house.

 

[Fuller]

Nice project, the garage looks like it pre-dates the house, style wise. I like how you paid attention to the details and didn't just build a big box.

 

[autoclassicnut]

Very Nice, keep the pictures coming!

 

[Dustoff 35]

Thanks. The house is 14 years old, the garage was started a year and a half ago. We 've owned it for just over 4 years. The wife says that once the garage is complete, we WILL re-trim & re-side the house to match the garage. Apparently, it bothers her that "my" garage looks nicer than the house.