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irineo78741

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hey guys names eddy i am having trouble deciding what i need i am not a mechanic but i definitely need something dependable and pretty good quality although not a mechanic grew up with cars and know my way around them i plan on goin back to school within a year and getting my associates degree or at least get certified all my tools were stolen and i just got a u.s general 5 drawer roller cart but i might just get a big roller cab if i need that much space i dont really like craftsman as their quality has deminished as of recent years i appreciate any help no real companies i have only messed with CM and i dont want to go that route again
 
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I can not read your sentence.

I will give you some choices based upon your level of grammar. You come across as diarrhea of the mind.Thus Pittsburgh Pro would be the choice.Then when you have passed Junior High.You would get some Kobalt or Husky.When you get to graduating from high school. You would get Craftsman or S-K. After your college graduation, I would give you Proto or Snap-on.
 

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I can not read your sentence.

I will give you some choices based upon your level of grammar. You come across as diarrhea of the mind.Thus Pittsburgh Pro would be the choice.Then when you have passed Junior High.You would get some Kobalt or Husky.When you get to graduating from high school. You would get Craftsman or S-K. After your college graduation, I would give you Proto or Snap-on.

Oh ****. I just peed a little.
 

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I can not read your sentence.

I will give you some choices based upon your level of grammar. You come across as diarrhea of the mind.Thus Pittsburgh Pro would be the choice.Then when you have passed Junior High.You would get some Kobalt or Husky.When you get to graduating from high school. You would get Craftsman or S-K. After your college graduation, I would give you Proto or Snap-on.

Seriously? You could not read what he posted?

With only a high school education I was able to understand what he wrote.
Perhaps your problem is reading comprehension?

Read slower, Imagine where the punctuation should be and sound out the big words.

Nice way to welcome a new member to the GJ on his first post.

Last time I checked this was a site for Garage enthusiasts. Not grammar dicks.

Have a swell day!:)
 

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I can not read your sentence.

It's only a little over a hundred and twenty five words with zero punctuation.

I think that I got the general gist of it. It's something about needing tools to fix an alien spaceship in Peru around the 21st of next December.

WoD
 
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irineo78741

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sorry for my grammar guys, i thought this was going to be a helpful forum but i really do need help choosing a decent quality tool brand, once again sorry guys forum seemed like a good place to get good advice.
 

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Seriously? You could not read what he posted?

With only a high school education I was able to understand what he wrote.
Perhaps your problem is reading comprehension?

N o t a l l o f u s a r e f l u e n t i n C a n a d i a n.

I can get by if I have to speaking it, but I'm not real proficient with the written aspect of it. I only found out a few years ago that there are two totally different written Canadian languages. Talk about confusing...

WoD
 

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sorry for my grammar guys, i thought this was going to be a helpful forum but i really do need help choosing a decent quality tool brand, once again sorry guys forum seemed like a good place to get good advice.

Stick around. I am sure you will find more helpful people here than grammar critics.

And welcome to the forum.
 

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Middle ground between the truck brands and Craftsman would include Wright and SK. I have some SK but wished I had purchased Wright instead.
 
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irineo78741

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how good are wright ratchets and sockets? as well as their wrenches any big sets of wright tools?
 

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how good are wright ratchets and sockets? as well as their wrenches any big sets of wright tools?

I'd be looking at mid level bands that are supported locally in your area. It's a pain the *** to have to mail a tool in for warranty service.

GearWrench is a viable option if it's sold locally to you. Decent quality and reasonable prices.

WoD
 

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I'll second Gearwrench. Some of the best tool values are Husky; their Pro screwdrivers are hard to beat and their chrome wrenches are as good as anything you'll find in any other store nowadays. I've never seen a Wright tool in person, but their market penetration in NJ is all of two small hardware stores, according to their site. I was curious about their tiny 3/8in ratchets for a few minutes, but it passed.
 

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Welcome to the forum, just be glad you didn't make your first post on a drinking night.

Forget the which brand stuff, tell us what kind of work you plan to do, and give us an idea of what sort of a tool buyer you are, strictly USA made, best quality, good value, shiny, whatever.
 

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I'd atleast spend the better money on screwdrivers, something like Snap-On or Matco. Craftsman screwdrivers don't impress me in the least bit.


The rest of the craftsman stuff works fine for me, decent price and lifetime warranty(local replacement). What's your reasoning for not wanting CM ?
 

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as others have said, gearwrench is a good bang for the buck. You mentioned wright and if you can get them and warranty them, they're a good bet.

but, without knowing what kind of work you want to do, it's hard to recommend any brand name as some brand names make better tools for certain tasks and crappy tools for other tasks.

looks like you're posting from a cellphone. Either that or you do a lot of texting. I'm no grammar/punctuation cop but man, multi-line run-on sentences are hard to read. I don't see how the texters do it!
 

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I agree. CRAFTSMAN. Their quality is great on most of the sockets and wrenches. Their pro screwdrivers are top notch. SOme things in Craftsma's lineup are **** like their ratchets and regular screwdrivers, but much of it is the best value by far and super quality...just a notch below things like Snap-On. Other good values good homeowner quality is Stanley mechanics tools and Evercraft from Napa. These are all tools that will plenty good for DIY use and I suspect most pro mechanics if they were on a tight budget.


I have to ask....what's up with the punctuation? I have seen some bad bad posts...I assume by non english speakers or barely literate folks. That's not the case with you...hwat the heck is up?
 

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you could look on Craigslist and get some good tools at some great prices if you look around you could get some name brands like snap on and matco also please excuse the grammar police some people just don't know how to be polite or don't have any thing better to do
 
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Just do a search or browse the first 20 pages or so of this forum and spend some time reading the posts. You will find the info you need. Also, try to type in complete sentences, alot of GJ members like it like that.
 
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Hey guys,sorry i havn't been on lately computer problems...ok so i have taken into consideration a few of you all's opinions. I saw a 145pc. Cm toolset ratchets, extensions,sockets and wrenches has all six point sockets and wrenches. i wanted to get some honest opinions on the set as it really has no filler pieces like other sets, and goes on sale for i believe 99.99 often, ratchets will likely be back ups as i know raised panels arent what they used to be, thanks for any advice ahead of time p.s is my grammar getting any better?
 

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I bought the 154 pc all 6 pt set, use the sockets, never the wrenches, planned to sell the ratchets and haven't gotten around to it, on sale was $90 for me.
 

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Dad, is that you ? where have you been all my life ?

Just kidding, welcome to the forum, sometimes you need thick skin, you are asking questions to a bunch of tool addicted monkeys here, for the most part, a good bunch of guys you would be proud to enjoy a beer with. Listen to the masses here, they know more about tools then most. Proto, wright, armstrong sk, and don't drink the snap on cool aid.
Good luck.
 

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irineo

how deep are your pockets and what do you plan on working on / making??
for deals on tools...want adds here on this forum
 
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irineo78741

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In all honestly pockets arent too deep,i am not a Made in usa guy, i do alot of auto repair work i am no pro bit grew up around a shop setting and learned the mechanic trait from my uncles.i am looki g for a tool set /tools that are easily warrantied if anything breaks. P.s dont you hate it when some low-life breaks into your home/garage and steals every tool you have?i know i did. Hf 301 mech set any advice on it looks decent oh let the hf bashing begin
 

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For affordability and quality, I would go with SK or Toptul.

SK would be a great choice for the socket sets online at advance auto. Be sure to use the coupon codes. They are much nicer then Cman and they dont break the bank.

And best of all the are made right here in the good ol USA :beer:
 

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hey guys names eddy i am having trouble deciding what i need i am not a mechanic but i definitely need something dependable and pretty good quality ...

Welcome Eddy,

My first advice is do not wed yourself to a brand. They get bought, disappear and/or go down in quality. I would focus on getting the best tools by being selective in what you buy for that particular purpose. No one brand will be the best in all areas. For instance, Crescent has the best adjustable wrenches -- made in the USA -- but makes their other tools cheaply overseas.

Here are my recommendations:

Hand tools (wrenches, sockets): NEW -- Wright, S-K, Armstrong, Snap-On. Used -- All of the above plus Craftsman and Truecraft. (Good deals on Ebay.)

Pliers -- Channel Lock

Crescent Wrenches -- Crescent

Screwdrivers/Torx: NEW -- Klein, Felo, Xcelite, [precision] Wiha, probably a good set of Snap-On would be a great addition, too.

Air Tools -- Sioux Power (watch out for the 'Force' models made overseas). Used -- IR from the 90s, made in USA/Japan, except I like their 2115 and 2131 USA-assembled air hammers.

Plumbing: Ridgid

Hammers: Vaughan. (I noticed that Estwing is making more junk overseas nowadays.)

Pin punches, chisels: Dasco Pro

Good luck!
 
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In the SK set it comes with a ratchet - I really like SK ratchets and feel they are much better then any Cman ratchet. Here is a listing of my favorite ratchets in the order I like them.

Snap on Dual 80
SK
Matco 88
Wright
Proto
Cornwell
Mac


I am an all USA guy so my opinion is a little biased toward those brands. Remember if you do not mind the round head ratchets, SK is the best value for quality IMO.

Like the other guys said above though if you dont use your tools much and you are on a really tight budget you would be crazy not to buy the craftsman set. While they are not the best tools, they are a great value and if you dont abuse them they will last a lifetime.

Just my $0.02
 
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irineo78741

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Well i will be using my tools daily, so far sk soi.ds like a good brand quality and dependable advice on wrenches ratcheting and normal?
 

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Here is my opinion if you are on a really tight budget.

Get this 3/8 Drive socket set (be sure to use the VISA code and get $50 off the advertised price)
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/we...ket-Sae-M-SK_22989559-P_N3409A_T|GRP2062_____

Get this 1/4 set (use the code CCabin and get $40 off the price advertised) You will have to place seperate orders.
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/we...int-Sae-M-SK_22989567-P_N3409A_T|GRP2062_____

For a wrench set I would pick up CMan raised panel wrenches to start. You can catch them on sale for $29.99 and thats the 12 pc set.

Gearwrenches (while not USA made are a great tool) They save alot of time when working and are good quality.

For screwdrivers I would suggest Cman for now since you are on a tight budget. They are not the greatest but they will get the job done and warranty is a breeze.
If you are looking for nicer screwdrivers Snap on is the way to go. They are the best in my opinion but they are pricey.

If you are looking for cheap tools, I have heard decent things about the new Kobalt. They are not USA made and are very cheap. They too have a lifetime warranty and I would rate them above HF tools in finish. I hope this helps.
 

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buy the best you can afford. I would suggest snap on, cornwell, mac, or matco. although they are all rather pricey they are worth it. after that would be SK. stay away from cheap stuff like (new) craftsman, husky, kobalt, ect.. and since you where totaly wiped out of your tools maybe look into a large set and save a little money or hunt down the local tool truck and see if he can give you a bit of a deal for buying allot at once. Good luck and sorry about your loss,
-Eric.
 

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Craftsman sockets, used Snap-On ratchets, SK/Wright combo wrenches, GearWrench ratcheting wrenches, Channellock pliers, Husky Pro/Wiha/Wera screwdrivers.

Won't make the bank put out hitmen for your wallet, won't waste money on truck-brand stuff that doesn't work better than non-truck stuff, and will give you solid tools from good brands in the areas they excel.

Just remember - half the cost of the truck-brand stuff goes in for "easy financing" and, if you work in a bigger garage, scheduled visits and (normally) easy warranty. If you're paying cash, tool trucks lose a lot of leverage.
 

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I have a sensitivity to this because of personal reasons. Grammar police online is one of them. Everyone has different backgrounds, different exposure to disabilities and different tolerance for people who are different. I knew a guy who used to ***** about handicap parking spaces. He said why should these prime spots be reserved for "those people." It didn't hit home until his mother had a stroke and he suddenly because a prime advocate for disability rights. It's all based on one's life experience. This goes for racism and any other sort of bigotry, too. But criticizing one's communication skills hits home with me.

We are all one aneurysm or blow to the head away from not being able to communicate as well as we can today. We are all one spinal injury away from benefiting from those handicap spaces.

If you want to flame me, flame away and then go chew on what I said.

Seriously? You could not read what he posted?

With only a high school education I was able to understand what he wrote.
Perhaps your problem is reading comprehension?

Read slower, Imagine where the punctuation should be and sound out the big words.

Nice way to welcome a new member to the GJ on his first post.

Last time I checked this was a site for Garage enthusiasts. Not grammar dicks.

Have a swell day!:)
 
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