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JoeFin

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Hi - my kid put me up to this

I'm in the process of expanding my "Garage/Shop" so that I can finally move around in it without tripping over stuff. I guess its only fair to mention I been diagnosed with the sever affliction of "Too Many Tools" with complications of "Machine Tools" too.

Here is a pic of the back wall of the existing garage. I think there is a Cincinnati #2 Tool and Cutter Grinder where that tool box used to be.

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Anyway a couple months ago we finally got a Building Permit for an addition on to the garage and almost right away got to a "Hackin and a Wackin" on the old concrete slab out back so we could dig our footing wall.

Here is a little pic of my oldest boy jacking out the concrete after we ran a saw cut down it. BTW: my sister already let me have it for allowing him to run a jack hammer wearing tennis shoes

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Will when finished the whole thing will be 40' long x 18 in the front half and 15' in the back half. It should work out fine for me as long as I don't by any more tools. I have a 36" Grob Vertical Band saw, a 14"x 7" Johnson Horizontal Saw, a Horizontal Mill, Press, Miller 500 with water cooler, all waiting for the new home to be completed

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Probably going to surface mount the 3 phase power for the machine tools in EMT but as per code will have to provide the residential required single phase in the walls. Run exhaust vents for the grinders up through the ceiling and mount the exhaust fan on the roof itself to cut down on the noise.

Also planning on running 1/2 gav pipe for air line and putting the compressor a closet outside.
 
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Put few more boards up on my garage extension this weekend. Starting to get a little antsy to close up the shell with weather coming like it is

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This kind of gives the perspective of once the extension is done and the dividing wall is knock out what it well be like to have a 40' long shop. Its a bit hard to see the new framing outside the back door but I'm chopping at the bit to get er done

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Will you have three phase from the pole?

I wish.

Will be moving my Rotary Phase Converter to the attic space above the existing garage and adding an additional cooling fan and some nice rubber mounts.

Its not a lot of noise mostly just the whirl of a motor going round. well that is excepting any time you switch on a load 5 Hp or better. In that case it tries to walk around a bit

BTW: this is what the lathe looked like when I first brought it home

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Some how I think the Mrs fanageled some thing out of me for her letting me keep the lathe
 
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Put a few more boards up on the garage addition and even a few more shingles

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Progress is slow - my kid hasn't been over in weeks to help me out - I even offered to buy him the waders he has been needing, and with Steelhead season starting ....

Oh well ... Happy Happy - this thing is shaping up
 

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Nice little addition going on, it will tie in great to the existing structure. Tell your son if he doesn't come over and help, he's getting coal in his stocking for Christmas.
 
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Not too much better then the neighbor coming over with a nice "Free Dual Pane Window" for my shop addition. I framed it up and put it in the wall as to not allow him too much time to think about it.


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I also built me some pretty indestructible Double Doors. 2"x4" / 2"x6" and 1/2" CDX "Glued and Screwed" together


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Big Huge hinges lag bolted into 4"x6" posts and tied to the rest of the framing with steel strap.

Once I painted it all up and laid down the Epoxy-Shield floor it started to look pretty nice.

I do a lot of precision work and the glare on my glasses can be a real pain in the ****. I went ahead on "Boxed" the Tandem 4ea 48" T-8 fixtures and painted the inside of the box a clean flat white. The original lighting calc with the ceiling reflectivity adjusted to Zero of just the fluorescents was 70 - 80 ft.cndle.

Then I placed some Halogen Spots over the areas where I would need additional light.

The combination gives a nice warm texture to the work without bothering my eyes in the slightest


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Then me and the boys moved a couple small machines into the space. Each of those there are +2500 Lbs


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"2 Thumbs Up" on the 13,000 Lb Skates from Northern Tool. The 3" Neoprene Wheels didn't mark up the freshly painted Epoxy-Shield in the slightest


The Wifey made me a nice little concrete pad and then my eldest boy started framing up the "Dog-House" for the compressor. I did take the time to add a couple of fittings and a nice "Gas-Service" Ball valve so my drain is out from underneath the compressor.


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We glued 2" Styrofoam Insulation to the inside of the compressor dog house for "noise-abatement". I'll let you all know how that worked out in a couple of days
 
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Then me and the boy got started on my "Quicky" Work Bench. I really wish I had more time to put into this, but my wife's annual 4th of July birthday Party for her best friend is coming up and I got stuff scattered all over the back patio as I move into the new shop space.

Any they are not so much for looks as they are to hold the "Weight". By the time every thing is stored on the lower shelves, it will easily pass 2000 lbs of machine tool accessories.

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And I needed to set up my "Tap and Die" storage. I don't buy just 1 of any thing. If I buy 1/4" x 20 tpi Taps its like 20 at a time.

Since my walls are 5/8 rock we added a little 1/4" finish sanded pine plywood


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A little bit of Stain ....


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And here is what it ended up looking like


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Then the boys got a wild-hair going and wanted to move the mill - all 5500 lbs of it. They had to remove the motor as to clear the 7'-2" opening into the new shop space first


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Then out came the "Blocks, Pry-Bars and Skates"


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and after a few tense moments - the mill was in it's new resting place



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Good looking build for your addition.

Since I am not a metal worker what are your mills and other metal fabrication equipment used for? Thanks

Do not show your sister the picture of the crew moving the mill since one member of the team is wearing non-OSHA approved flip-flops.
 
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Then the boys got a wild-hair going and wanted to move the mill - all 5500 lbs of it. They had to remove the motor as to clear the 7'-2" opening into the new shop space first


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Then out came the "Blocks, Pry-Bars and Skates"


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and after a few tense moments - the mill was in it's new resting place



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If that mill is a CNC......You ****!!!!!:lol:

Just kidding....well maybe I am......does your boy's get into machining? If yes, then that is great. If not, then it's about time dad teaches them.

And also.....great looking space:thumbup::thumbup:
 
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Good looking build for your addition.

Since I am not a metal worker what are your mills and other metal fabrication equipment used for? Thanks.


I was making racing suspension parts - before the economy tanked

Made a few custom parts for a bike that made it into Iron Horse magazine, built by the brother of a returning Iraq War Vet. Way before they ever had the group "Harleys for Heroes"
 
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If that mill is a CNC......You ****!!!!!:lol:

Just kidding....well maybe I am......does your boy's get into machining? If yes, then that is great. If not, then it's about time dad teaches them.

And also.....great looking space:thumbup::thumbup:


The mill originally was sold with a Dynapath 20 3 axis Controller. The owner before me upgraded it to a Dynapath 50 a few years before I bought it.

Compared to some mills its slow. Really built for proto-typing with Rotary Encoders and Glass Scales for the axis feed-back. It has all the software bells and whistles which makes it pretty nice to use. I just dump the G-code in it and the controller will check the math and even run a graphic of the tool path for me


......does your boy's get into machining?

The son on the step ladder removing the motor ... when I gave him a Lincoln Buzz Box on a nice little cart with hood, gloves, and 50' 240volt extension cord .... I spent 20 minutes showing him the basics - he burnt 4 or 5 more rods dinking around with some scrap I had laying about the yard

He then wrote his name on the side of the cart in "Weld Bead" and took it home - haha
 
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Hi - my kid put me up to this

I'm in the process of expanding my "Garage/Shop" so that I can finally move around in it without tripping over stuff. I guess its only fair to mention I been diagnosed with the sever affliction of "Too Many Tools" with complications of "Machine Tools" too.

Here is a pic of the back wall of the existing garage. I think there is a Cincinnati #2 Tool and Cutter Grinder where that tool box used to be.

Shop-calibration012.jpg


DSCF0249.jpg


Anyway a couple months ago we finally got a Building Permit for an addition on to the garage and almost right away got to a "Hackin and a Wackin" on the old concrete slab out back so we could dig our footing wall.

Here is a little pic of my oldest boy jacking out the concrete after we ran a saw cut down it. BTW: my sister already let me have it for allowing him to run a jack hammer wearing tennis shoes

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Nick don't see too much toolage. I think your actual problem is the size of your toolage. Probably fairly easy to hide the big/not used often stuff in a shed of some sort even after you expand your garage (if it's a successful expansion). The reason being is that even if you get the extra space you'll just fill it up and be right back where you were when you started. Maybe paint some lines on the ground to show where tools can't cross...dunno?
 

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Nick I think you have made a huge improvement on your space hope you can enjoy it , but I bet you fill it with more huge toolage lol.
 

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Very nice!!!

Curious why you used 5/8" rock. Used to work at a lumber yard and 99% of what we sold and delivered was 1/2". The 7/11 stores used 5/8" sheetrock - flame retardant stuff and heavy as hell.

Let me know if you still build suspension parts. Wouldn't mind some custom UCAs for my 71 Javelin road race project. Not much aftermarket support for AMCs.

Scott
 
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Very nice!!!

Curious why you used 5/8" rock. Used to work at a lumber yard and 99% of what we sold and delivered was 1/2". The 7/11 stores used 5/8" sheetrock - flame retardant stuff and heavy as hell.

Let me know if you still build suspension parts. Wouldn't mind some custom UCAs for my 71 Javelin road race project. Not much aftermarket support for AMCs.

Scott


How is Seoul Korea these days ? I was stationed in Shi Hung back in 1975/76

5/8 rock is a bit more forgiving from objects flying off machines and hitting the walls. Sure it leaves a mark but every thing is "Smooth Wall" texture so all I have to do is hit it with a little spackle, sand smooth, a dab of paint and I'm good to go again.

Sure I could hook you up with custom UCAs. - PM me
 

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How is Seoul Korea these days ? I was stationed in Shi Hung back in 1975/76

5/8 rock is a bit more forgiving from objects flying off machines and hitting the walls. Sure it leaves a mark but every thing is "Smooth Wall" texture so all I have to do is hit it with a little spackle, sand smooth, a dab of paint and I'm good to go again.

Sure I could hook you up with custom UCAs. - PM me

Seoul is pretty darn nice. Lot has changed here since the 70's. Korea really took off in the 80's; google "Miracle on the Han" for details.

Understand what you mean on the 5/8 rock. We sure hated toting it; it was much heavier than the regular 4 x 12 1/2" stuff.

I'll pm you on the UCAs.

Scott
 

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Make sure you have LOTS of ventilation for the compressor, they don't live well in a hot environment, I'd suggest a good fan wired to run when ever the compressor does to extend it's life.
 

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looks great! should be a huge improvement in work enjoyment with all the new space.
 
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