New Hobart 210 MVP

[GYPSY400]

Good day All,
Well I finally pulled the pin and invested some money on a welder for my home garage. I went with the Hobart 210 MVP From TSC.. It was on sale for $999 cdn ( regular $1299).. Now I really would have liked the MM211, but my LWS quoted me $1465 + tax and I just couldn't justify the $500 difference.

I didn't really consider the Lincoln 210 as I wanted the capability of doing both 220v and 110v welding.. Also we have a little Lincoln 180 at work that's going to the scrap steel bin very soon.. The Lincoln 210 was a pretty good deal at $1200 and change, but with all the bells and whistles it has, you have to think they cheaped out on somethings inside.

I hope this simple Hobart machine suits my needs as I've read many positive things about it.


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[sberry]

The Hobart is very good and the only real difference between it and the blue one is paint and some features you really don't need anyway. You should snag the 180 from the dumpster, it is a very good machine also, one of the best arc's in this class.

 

[bobcatdan]

The only real difference is the Hobart is a tap machine where as the Miller is variable adjustment. I have a buddy who use to work in Millers repair center and he said from a purest standpoint, the Hobart could be considered a more reliable machine. Based on his experience, he is disappointed that Miller is going to invertors on machines like the 211. He says long term he never saw an invertor machine last as long without problems.

 

[sberry]

The red one like the 180 can be had for almost the same dollars today s it was 30 yrs ago, prices have only went up slightly. In an effort to get them up they have been adding features, the features are cheap to produce and can help raise the price.
They are ok but raise the complexity and are aimed at the consumer crowd for the most part. Once a guy learns to set the knobs they are moot for the most point.

 

[sberry]

I hope this simple Hobart machine suits my needs as I've read many positive things about it.

You should have absolutely no buyers remorse here other than you probably should have bought it way sooner. These are a bargain, they last a long time.

 

[GYPSY400]

The Hobart is very good and the only real difference between it and the blue one is paint and some features you really don't need anyway. You should snag the 180 from the dumpster, it is a very good machine also, one of the best arc's in this class.

The 180 used to weld nice, but lately it has become a Lesbian welder.. Still lays a nice bead, but no penetration! I had to pre-heat 3/16 flat bar to get a decent weld. We upgraded to a Lincoln 256 on Thursday, which is a really nice machine but too much money for the average weekend warrior.


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[GYPSY400]

You should have absolutely no buyers remorse here other than you probably should have bought it way sooner. These are a bargain, they last a long time.

That's good to hear


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[Major Ramifications]

Congratulations! You have chosen wisely.

 

[sberry]

Its a 150 pickup truck with a 300 6 and a 4 speed.

 

[jw3]

What wrong with a 300 straight six? Unless you put a dual exhaust on it. Lol


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[GYPSY400]

I think he was referring to it being simple and solid.. Hopefully my Hobart won't leak oil though! Lol


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[sberry]

It is simple and solid, not something to drag race. I field tested the first 210 compact,,, this machine without MVP. Had it about 9 months or more before it came on the market. I made the first beads with the door chart, they are not in this pic, a bit cold but here are the second, when I bumped it heated right up

 

[GYPSY400]

It is simple and solid, not something to drag race. I field tested the first 210 compact,,, this machine without MVP. Had it about 9 months or more before it came on the market. I made the first beads with the door chart, they are not in this pic, a bit cold but here are the second, when I bumped it heated right up

Those are some impressive welds.. Not only what the machine can do but your consistent hand speed is almost " robotic"



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[GYPSY400]

Well after 7 WEEKS it finally came in! I'm pretty busy at work right now, so it will be a few days before I get time to unbox it.


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[sberry]

I would use it on Nascars. This is similar to joint design and thickness,,, its a cyclonic sand separator.

 

[sberry]

The bottom bead was the first with the machine out of the box and set with the door chart. It would be about right for vert up, the next 2 are the same ones in the pic above, included this for comparison. Turn it up till you burn a hole in everything then down a pinch.

 

[wagon]

Lincoln is able to price so low because they are made in Mexico. Up to the PowerMig 256, the highest Lincoln I've seen, are made, labeled "assembled", in Mexico. The engine drives, Ranger 225+ are assembled here (Haven't seen the Bulldog machines labels).

Millers do use imported parts. The guns are made in China, the drive motors are made in Mexico, but I was told by a Miller employee that the circuit boards are made in Appleton, WI. Where the components soldered to the PCB are manufactured wasn't asked. Final assembly, testing, design, all that are done in Appleton, WI.

On the Hobart 210, you did great. Awesome machine, definitely quality, and with none of the drawbacks of an inverter machine. I didn't see any Hobart sheet metal in the Millermatic facility, indicating that assembly is completed in Hobart's Troy, Ohio facility.

 

[wagon]

By way of guns, the M-10 and M-15 are imported. Not sure of the larger Miller guns.

Bernard guns are manufactured in the USA with all American parts in IL.