New Hobby Based Langmuir Systems Plasma Table $995

[dirtrunner0519]

Has anyone checked this table out or know anything about it besides what is on their website.

https://store.langmuirsystems.com/

It looks interesting for someone that is on a tight budget and cannot afford a 10k plasma table.

 

[Orionrising]

Has anyone checked this table out or know anything about it besides what is on their website.

https://store.langmuirsystems.com/

It looks interesting for someone that is on a tight budget and cannot afford a 10k plasma table.

Looks like an inherently unstable design. Long unsupported cantilever?

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[n20junkie]

I agree. Not very strong looking.

 

[steel 35]

Lots of trial stuff that is of little to no use 0, First thing check all the options for a start up price. (NO Powered Z) Is not good, Most people that don't have a good height control are not Happy, This has none, they say its not needed, No further reading for me

 

[Vegaman_Dan]

Laser cutters don't have a Z axis either. If you have your height set correctly, it could be fine. But I expect you'll have to manually set it each time you change the height of the material being cut.

It's kind of tempting, but I'd wait for version 2 to come out first.

 

[Lelandwelds]

Looks like an inherently unstable design. Long unsupported cantilever?

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Plasma doesn't have all the weight and pressure from a router, for example. A machine like this probably will have a too small plasma so the speeds will be low.

I think I will pass. Interesting, but no. 2 X 2 is pretty small, anyway. You couldnt cut gate panels or nest parts very well.

 

[steel 35]

I expect you'll have to manually set it each time you change the height of the material being cut.

It's kind of tempting, but I'd wait for version 2 to come out first.

Yep then too!
and Twice for each cut line, as per the following.

A clip of a post from a leading manufactures Rep reply to pertaining Question.

Thicker than 3/16" you will need to manually set the pierce height (which is higher than the cut height), pierce, then stop and manually set the cut height (.06" off the surface), then start from the previously pierced hole.

 

[JamesW84]

From what I understand, unless you spend $50k plus on a good plasma table, don't even bother. ChuckE2009 on Youtube got a plasma table a couple years ago and has a 17 min video up on his channel about why it wasn't good. I'm sure his was much more than $1,000.

I'm just regurgitating information.

 

[rsanter]

Well, I just bought one at their opening price.
Yes I know there are compromises but it seems like a decent machine for the money.
I have been wanting to build one but never getting around to it, so I bought one.
Like many things in my hobby life, I end up buying bigger later, but you have to start somewhere

 

[InsanePyro]

Laser cutters don't have a Z axis either. If you have your height set correctly, it could be fine. But I expect you'll have to manually set it each time you change the height of the material being cut.

It's kind of tempting, but I'd wait for version 2 to come out first.

The one I use at school does...

 

[Radix2]

Well, I just bought one at their opening price.
Yes I know there are compromises but it seems like a decent machine for the money.
I have been wanting to build one but never getting around to it, so I bought one.
Like many things in my hobby life, I end up buying bigger later, but you have to start somewhere

Keep us updated on how it works out for you!

 

[matt_i]

If all it needs is a 1/16" offset from pierce to cut, it seems like that could be done with an el cheapo M-code (PC to relay output to directional valve to air cylinder to shimmable or adustable hard stop). The plasma already runs on air, correct?

 

[ishiboo]

From what I understand, unless you spend $50k plus on a good plasma table, don't even bother. ChuckE2009 on Youtube got a plasma table a couple years ago and has a 17 min video up on his channel about why it wasn't good. I'm sure his was much more than $1,000.

I'm just regurgitating information.

I think a lot of people are satisfied at the 10-20k range for a 4x8 table... and lower for smaller tables. Especially if they're the some-DIY-required tables.

ChuckE's, well, a ChuckE...

 

[steel 35]

Well, I just bought one at their opening price.
Yes I know there are compromises but it seems like a decent machine for the money.
I have been wanting to build one but never getting around to it, so I bought one.
Like many things in my hobby life, I end up buying bigger later, but you have to start somewhere

It will indeed cut much better then we can

Keep us updated on how it works out for you!

+1

 

[steel 35]

If all it needs is a 1/16" offset from pierce to cut, it seems like that could be done with an el cheapo M-code (PC to relay output to directional valve to air cylinder to shimmable or adustable hard stop). The plasma already runs on air, correct?

The Z axis does already move manually, if its light and tight a little bimba might just do that

 

[A**holes Garage]

Best bang for the buck. Tell him Tony F sent you;

https://premierplasmacnc.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzNSkycuP2gIVUF5-Ch1ENwmuEAAYASAAEgIF4fD_BwE

 

[Radix2]

If done right, it seems like the open gantry style makes the most sense in a small bed. I wonder about contamination on that style of guides. If it gets popular, a z axis thc control will not be far behind.

 

[Vegaman_Dan]

From what I understand, unless you spend $50k plus on a good plasma table, don't even bother. ChuckE2009 on Youtube got a plasma table a couple years ago and has a 17 min video up on his channel about why it wasn't good. I'm sure his was much more than $1,000.

I'm just regurgitating information.

To be fair, I love watching Chuck's videos, but he's pretty darn ignorant on many subjects he rants about, and he does admit it to his credit. A misunderstanding on the plasma cutting table led to a bit of an ego slap fight between him and another streamer because Chuck didn't research the product and expected it to do far more than it was designed for. Pride followed that mistake and he was off to the races.

 

[Vegaman_Dan]

I have to say that if this was $500, I'd probably be tempted to get one. I don't have room for a 4x8 setup in my garage, but I could probably make some room for a smaller table.

 

[rburke65]

I'm thinking too unstable with the unsupported rail.

 

[PNWguy]

There's no way the cantilevered arm will be as stable as a supported arm. I'm curious to see how much movement is out on the end.

This statement makes me not want to do business with them Includes free use of Autodesk Fusion CAD/CAM software for hobbyists and startups (<$100k/yr).

Autodesk gives away their F360 software (which is pretty good, especially the CAM) to hobbyists and startups. Pretending like it's part of the package you get for buying the hardware is really sleazy.

 

[rsanter]

Keep us updated on how it works out for you!

I will, I am eager to get it and start playing.
Most of what I will be doing is thin material. The thicker material can still be done by modifying the file to start a cut in from the edge and even have a cut continue from item to item. Yes the piercing of thicker stuff may be an issue but we will have to see how that goes.
I know on a milling machine they will often ‘spiral down’ with the bit to cut down into a pocket. I am wondering is the same may work with a plasma? What if I were to program to start with a 1/16 or 1/8 circle in the inner waste area that would then lead to cut out the inner area to be removed?


I already have a full version of autocad and have been doing cad work for years so that art is easy for me.
I used to program CNC machines way back in the day so I have some knowledge there as well. I have a friend with the full version Mach3 software so he can help me get up to speed with that

 

[A**holes Garage]

https://www.sheetcam.com/

 

[M35A2]

Well I ordered in the second batch and it showed up in ups yesterday and got it assembled today. The open gantry is very solid that I can’t feel any movement in and being a plasma with nothing touching what you are cutting it won’t matter....my $160k CNC router is an open gantry and works just fine. There are a lot of these out there now and everybody is very happy with them even without a z axis. Here is a video of someone cutting 3/4” steel on one.

 

[Jawn]

Interesting... tho it looks like it's $1495 now.

 

[M35A2]

Interesting... tho it looks like it's $1495 now.

I got in on the $1295 batch. They started off lower priced to get going, stating that each batch will go up and I believe the $1495 is the final price that they will stay. I was impressed by the quality of the unit and their attention to detail like the labeled packaging of hardware and extremely good and helpful videos. They also have a forum that the owners are very active on helping people out. I should have mine up and running tomorrow.

 

[Jawn]

It's tempting... no indication of compatibility with my cutter (INE Skyline 33), but I am pretty sure it's not HF start. Have to verify that.

 

[rpcraft]

There's no way the cantilevered arm will be as stable as a supported arm. I'm curious to see how much movement is out on the end.

This statement makes me not want to do business with them Includes free use of Autodesk Fusion CAD/CAM software for hobbyists and startups (<$100k/yr).

Autodesk gives away their F360 software (which is pretty good, especially the CAM) to hobbyists and startups. Pretending like it's part of the package you get for buying the hardware is really sleazy.

I think for hobbyist purposes it's not too important to have a second rail for support but overall it does look like the price has gone up significantly, in case someone did not notice it.

 

[M35A2]

I think for hobbyist purposes it's not too important to have a second rail for support but overall it does look like the price has gone up significantly, in case someone did not notice it.

It was always set up that way price wise. They were a startup and offered lower prices for the first batch with each batch going up I price. They have plans for bigger machines and the current control board are set up for a z axis for thc. Personally, it’s a perfect setup for me with a small shop, if I need bigger pieces cut I can send it out.

 

[rpcraft]

I think the price for what you get seems like a decent deal for someone who does not want to hunt down all the parts and controllers. It's on my list of considerations but I definitely would be interested in the THC my own self. I was googling a little earlier to see if anyone has added it but just did not get a chance to filter out any garbage results and had to fiddle around with some other work. I'll probably circle back to it tomorrow and do some reading up on it

 

[M35A2]

I think the price for what you get seems like a decent deal for someone who does not want to hunt down all the parts and controllers. It's on my list of considerations but I definitely would be interested in the THC my own self. I was googling a little earlier to see if anyone has added it but just did not get a chance to filter out any garbage results and had to fiddle around with some other work. I'll probably circle back to it tomorrow and do some reading up on it

Somebody just posted on their forum that he is adding a z axis. The control board actually has connections for z and a and has 4 open ins an 3 open outs for controlling other things. I always wanted to build one but didn’t want to figure out all the control electronics.

 

[sherlocktk]

I bought in to this at $995 and so far I am very happy with the device. It was a long 6 month wait. Most of what I do is <1sq ft so this size of table is perfect for my 3 car garage. So far the only negative is that I think it came with too short of a USB cable, which is entirely easy to fix. Their support and videos on how to get up and running for a guy with 0 CAM experience has been great. The Gantry and x/y axis to not have any "play" that you can feel, and due to it being floating repeat ability is consistent. THC will be nice, and I am sure Ill buy it from them once its developed.

 

[rpcraft]

Somebody just posted on their forum that he is adding a z axis. The control board actually has connections for z and a and has 4 open ins an 3 open outs for controlling other things. I always wanted to build one but didn’t want to figure out all the control electronics.

I think that has what has steered me away from it as well. I'm not afraid to tackle some wiring but too much of it just irritates me because my OCD takes over and I focus too much and trying to make the wires look neet. It's the same reason I am still working on the wiring harness in my project truck, lol. I figure once I finish that it will be enough to last me a long while.

Too much wiring makes Homer go something something???

 

[M35A2]

Well I thought I would update since I have had mine a couple months now. I love this thing! I like how I can take my ideas and make them so fast. Well with this I can draw it up in cad, cut it and a bit later I’m done. Today I made a fence for my Ironworker for the brake station. I had been cutting tic marks where I needed to bend parts but thought it would be easier with a fence. Drew it up, cut and was finished in less than 30 minutes. The table has performed flawlessly with no issues at all.....very happy

 

[daddycreswell]

I've been eyeing one of these for a while now, I want it just to play with, same reason I bought my laser. I bought it to play with now I am using it everyday and making "folding money" with it. I figure I can do the same with the plasma cutter too. If nothing else I can make cool things to hang in my garage.

 

[Cryptic1911]

Ours should be getting delivered in a few weeks. picked up an everlast 50s plasma cutter to use on it as well

 

[bullnerd]

Very cool M3, thanks for the update.

At first I thought you had a mig gun mounted in the cnc.....hmmmm.

 

[gayler]

Does anyone know if it will work with the Cut 50F I bought during the group buy on here?

 

[Craftfab]

Wanted to bump this for feedback now that some have had the table for close to a year now. I have a Hypertherm I have hand cut with but am looking to make change to one of these tables.

 

[Jayhawk_Aviator]

I’m also interested in this. Not to distract from the original thread, but I’m also curious what people have liked in the “next size up” from a size and table cost perspective (what the best options are)

Scott