New home - new garage

[soxmis457]

Hi Guys,

Since my last build that I never finished updating on here, I got married, had a little girl and moved house.

The last garage in the new forest was L shaped and ended up looking like this.



The comments I received from most of you was about centres of timber studs and racking problems. These issues were addressed and I went on to sell the house to a guy who needed to keep his Lotus in the garage.

Anyway, back to the new one.

We moved into the new house (1950's semi) a couple of years ago and went into overdrive - getting the outside looking good and reading up on planning/ building regulations for timber frame buildings. I put in a building control notice in December 2012 and started the build a few weeks later.

A building control notice allowed me to start within 48hrs and notify the inspector at each stage of construction.

Before starting the build we had already updated the front of the house for 'kerb appeal'.

The house when we bought it.


Then we gave it a makeover.


A quick mock up of how the garage will look on the side.


jimbo

 

[930dreamer]

House is looking good, keep us updated on the garage.

 

[dubber]

House is looking good, keep us updated on the garage.

x 2 agreed.

 

[GBsnoopy]

x3

Really like the look of what you have done to the house.

 

[Chucktown]

I look forward to your build. What kind of zoning restrictions do you have where you live? Will they let you build on a zero lot line?

 

[soxmis457]

I guess by zoning, you mean building on the boundary of my property?

We can build within and up to our boundary with a neighbour without problem. Wr have to notify the neighbour and build no higher than certain heights for flat or pitched roofs.
For me it's 3.0 metres high.

In addition to the height and the fact that it's timber frame and a garage means I have to create fire protected walls or build it from brick. I have to prevent fire from inside my garage spreading to the neighbouring property and protect my garage from fire from the neighbour.

 

[soxmis457]

FOUNDATIONS.

Well we started in December 2012. Me and my Dad building it again. Only using trades that we couldn't do ourselves.

I started the weekend before by removing the boundary fence. The garage would go up to the boundary line, allowing me to put a new fence back in its place.

This was followed on the Tuesday by the foundations being dug. We used a local firm of groundworkers who were great. Wednesday morning would be concrete day.

Clearing the site.


Then we found a broken and blocked rainwater drainpipe.


A quick trip to the local merchants and we were up and running again.


We worked into the dark, had half the soil removed and got the trenches dug. The building inspector had turned up earlier that day and measured from the 'dig' to the nearest English Oak tree - 21 metres meaning we had to increase the depth to 1.4 metres.



This doubled my costs for concrete and getting the soil taken away. Mind you, they do say most of the money is spent in the ground. I found this out the same night, when I nipped outside to admire the days work and found the clay trenches had collapsed onto the new pipe. Half an hour of swearing and digging and I cleared the pipe. The soil would need digging out again in the morning and the concrete was coming at 9am.

 

[soxmis457]

CONCRETE.

Well, as the trenches had collapsed due to the water content of the clay soil, the following morning I had to ring the concrete guys and push back the delivery. I also increased the amount to 8 cubic metres.
Colin, the groundworker came back with his digger and we dug out the 'fallen' clay.

He actually stayed most of the day with his labourer and helped me 'barrow in the concrete.

You can see the amount of water just sat on the concrete in these pics.




You can see the pile of earth on the driveway. The truck didn't turn up until after dark again, in rush hour, on our busy road. Anyway, in his favour he took the lot even if it was 'a bit much'.

The following morning the driveway looked like this.


So we broke out the pressure washer.


Mud. Wot mud?
So, we were out of the ground, of sorts and the only casualty was a small frog. RIP little man.


Next up is blockwork up to the damp proof course with another visit from the building inspector.

 

[soxmis457]

Well after the concrete footings it was time for the damp proof course and concrete slab to go in.

I started by getting the corners set up and then did a ring of blocks. This would be the height of the floor.




A week later we got the ********/ type1/ chatter delivered with the sand and started wacker plating it all down.



During this work the building inspector came round and advised on a few things like raising my blocks by another row in case of flooding from the neighbours garden. Block off the air vents in the house wall adjoining the garage in case of a fire, smoke could enter the cavity space.
He was concerned about fire protection if the neighbours property caught fire.

I have to fit fireboard on either side of the party wall. In addition, I'm fitting Cedral weatherboard from Marley which has a Class 0 fire rating. He had never heard of that product but was happy for me to carry on after I showed him the brochure.

The following week (I worked every Friday on the garage), we had the concrete delivery for the slab. No worries there.



The weather said heavy rain was imminent so we boarded over the concrete slab to protect the surface from being washed away.


The following week it snowed.




That'll teach me to build in the winter.

A few weeks later with the snow gone and my wall raised. It was timber time.
Exciting stuff.


Here's the Golf getting sized up.


Here we are starting the long wall. 4" x 2" studs at 400mm centres.






We made a massive lintel for the garage roller door. It's 10" x 4".


Door opening and window in place.




Boarding over.


This wall has fireboard externally instead of OSB.

 

[soxmis457]

Hurry up mods.

I can't remember what I've written.....

 

[soxmis457]

How come the above reply has appeared so fast and I'm still waiting for all the pics one to appear?

 

[soxmis457]

Hmmm.... Go advanced = go slow.........

 

[c0r3y.af]

Looks good. Can't wait to see how it comes out!

 

[Evolution-VII]

I can't imagine how easy and fast is to build something with wood. I wish that we had this culture here in Brazil, it's very rare to see this kind of construction over here.

It's looking good mate, keep updating this thread!

 

[felixgogo]

Hi - excellent build - and I really like the 'kerb appeal' of the house itself - good job there.

Quick question - I notice you have an existing garage behind the new one you are building, why did you not have a car door in the back wall of the new garage so if you needed to you could gain full access to the rear garage?

Edit - I think I have misunderstood your pics - there is not a garage at the back - but a pop-up shelter in front of the fence - in some shots it looked like a garage front!

 

[roger440]

Did the inspector allow that soil pipe to run through the foundation?

What are you doing with the drainage?

Curious as im pondering such things. I can do it without building control if im under 30sqm, but id like bigger.

Looking like good progress though Will be following this one.

 

[dubber]

Great progress. Are those Audi S-line badges you added onto the golf

 

[jdeck]

Wow awesome progress.

 

[soxmis457]

Hi - excellent build - and I really like the 'kerb appeal' of the house itself - good job there.

Quick question - I notice you have an existing garage behind the new one you are building, why did you not have a car door in the back wall of the new garage so if you needed to you could gain full access to the rear garage?

Edit - I think I have misunderstood your pics - there is not a garage at the back - but a pop-up shelter in front of the fence - in some shots it looked like a garage front!

Thanks for the comments. That's right. It's a small marquee. We put it up to house the power tools if we had any rainfall whilst we were working. As it happened the sun came out.

There were never any plans to go further back than we did as we plan to extend behind the house - but only the house itself and not the garage.

 

[soxmis457]

Did the inspector allow that soil pipe to run through the foundation?

What are you doing with the drainage?

Curious as im pondering such things. I can do it without building control if im under 30sqm, but id like bigger.

Looking like good progress though Will be following this one.

The building inspector who visited at this point was aware of the drainage route, but didn't really comment. His only issue was depth for the massive oak tree 2 gardens away. The groundworker was in charge at this point as my only experience was (amateur) timber framing. He told me what to buy and I did. The drain pipe is rainwater only. If it ever became a problem I can always run to a soakaway.

 

[soxmis457]

Great progress. Are those Audi S-line badges you added onto the golf

Thanks dubber. VW fan by any chance?

It's a 1.9TDI 110bhp. The rear badge is an S-Line, the door badges are TDI from the new style Skodas. The wheels are Audi, and I've fitted MK4 R32 brakes front and rear, Anniversary GTi shocks. Everything on the car is genuine VW/ Audi/ Seat and Skoda.

 

[soxmis457]

I just spent an hour typing and posting pictures. I had to log in again and lost everything.

Nightmare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

 

[safexcrane]

Very nice house. I like the design of house.

 

[dubber]

Thanks dubber. VW fan by any chance?

It's a 1.9TDI 110bhp. The rear badge is an S-Line, the door badges are TDI from the new style Skodas. The wheels are Audi, and I've fitted MK4 R32 brakes front and rear, Anniversary GTi shocks. Everything on the car is genuine VW/ Audi/ Seat and Skoda.

Very cool. I'm always super interested to see models and editions that aren't available in our NA market. One of my favorite part from my trip to Europe last year was checking out cars i've never heard of or models i've never seen.

Hahaha, and yes to answer your question lol.....8 euros thus far and wouldn't have it any other way.

Keep it up!

 

[dubber]

I just spent an hour typing and posting pictures. I had to log in again and lost everything.

Nightmare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

When you log in click the little box that says remember me. That may help.

 

[Chucktown]

Impressively clean job site. Well done!

 

[soxmis457]

Ok. Here's a second attempt at my last post.

So we got this far. Stud wall covered externally by fireboard.


We had to protect this wall from the elements (rain) so covered it straightaway with a breather membrane which is the same as Tyvek house wrap.


We had already boarded and wrapped the back of the garage which has a window and door both in Upvc.


Then we wrapped the "pink" wall in membrane before starting on the roof. I had originally designed the roof to be standing seam - very industrial and now extremely popular in the UK domestic/ residentail market. However, just before I placed a very expensive order, I found out that Tata Steel in the UK were concerned that it would pull water up the seam in capillary action and compromise the roof structure.

So we went for a box profile and placed an order.

To create my perfectly flat roof meant using a 1:80 gradient of 88mm at the front of the garage and 0mm at the rear. I ordered in some 'furrings' and we fitted them perpendicular to the roof joists.



Followed by OSB boards and a membrane.




Next up was the roller door. I had already boarded and wrapped the front around the sides of the roller door opening. I was expecting a massive heavy weight but the delivery driver walked in with it under his arm.

The instructions said 2 man installation but I managed it on my own using 2 ladders and a piece of timber to stand on. It got a bit hairy at one point with me holding it in place with one hand whilst reaching down for a screwdriver with the other hand.

Ta daaa!






We were now watertight - temporarily and work could start on the cladding. Battens and cladding shots.




In this pic the wall of the house has been started (grey) and will eventually be white like the front.


Once the house wall was done we cladded the front.


Cladding match.


Round the back.


As mentioned earlier, the box profile roofing sheets arrived. 4 metres x 1 metre sheets. This gave us an overlap of just under a metre down the length of the roof.




We had to hide the 'shed roof' look and create something smart looking.


So edging strips were fitted all round.




Guttering followed by the edge profile.




We tested the roof for water run off with a hosepipe on full blast. All good, well happy.


Then we tidied up.






And that's where you find me today.

This weekend I'm putting a new fence between the garage and the neighbour. Apart from some aesthetic touches to the outside, most of the work now is internal. Electrics, insulation some more fireboard and another inspector visit.

Hopefully this will not be lost this time. Thanks for looking.

 

[RSOllie]

wow
i cant belive i have only just caught up with this thread
grate job you have done
moved alot faster than my build lol

one question for you though
were did you get your outside cladding from? is it pre painted?
i want something like that for mine
also were did u get the roofing sheets? ive seen so many different ones at different prices and dont really no what to go for

cheeRS ollie

 

[dubber]

You did a great job seamlessly adding it to your front fascia, looks like it was there originally. Well done.

 

[Rockuf8]

That came out very nice!

 

[roger440]

Nice work. And fast too.

 

[soxmis457]

Thanks for the comments guys.

RSollie - the timber cladding is actually a cement based fibreboard. It's fire proof, rot proof and insect proof. It's Cedral Weatherboard from Marley. Google it and you'll find brochures and stockists.

The roof is box profile and I bought it from eRoofs on the internet.

This weekend as promised was fencing, which went easily enough. A lot of concrete to get through as the concrete posts went back in the same holes as before.



The good thing about the fence is that it hides the imposing look of the grey wall.

Next up on the list is to repair the driveway blocks in front of the garage door opening, complete some cosmetic bits on the outside before I move onto the electrics and internal stud wall.

jimbo

 

[felixgogo]

Very rarely do 'upgrades' of a house work. But in this case they work brilliantly. And you have finished off the look with a flourish - what an excellent garage - modern, simple, and a quality build.

I am really looking forward to what fitting out you are going to do inside!

Cheers

Ian