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Overhead Door for the win!!!!

Corporate OD is bad enough, but the independent installers just flat ****.

Then they play the “responsible party” game.

****** company, with ****** workers.
 
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Overhead Door for the win!!!!

Corporate OD is bad enough, but the independent installers just flat ****.

Then they play the “responsible party” game.

****** company, with ****** workers.
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Most of the smaller local companies never responded to my requests for bids. The only one that did said he doesn't do commercial doors. :dunno:
 
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Sir, I applaud you for your patience with the door company and crew...... for if it were me, the copy of "Dirty Harry's Magnum" stuck in the ear of that young POS installer would have "made my day" and would certainly made me feel so much better and reduce any stress to my cardio vascular system...

Happy Thanksgiving to you and family!
 
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Sir, I applaud you for your patience with the door company and crew...... for if it were me, the copy of "Dirty Harry's Magnum" stuck in the ear of that young POS installer would have "made my day" and would certainly made me feel so much better and reduce any stress to my cardio vascular system...

Happy Thanksgiving to you and family!
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"....man's got to know his limitations"
 
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Sir, I applaud you for your patience with the door company and crew...... for if it were me, the copy of "Dirty Harry's Magnum" stuck in the ear of that young POS installer would have "made my day" and would certainly made me feel so much better and reduce any stress to my cardio vascular system...

Happy Thanksgiving to you and family!
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:rocker:Thank you for the chuckle, Odis. Trust me, several different responses raced through my head.
Hope you enjoy the holiday as well.
 
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The good news : I passed final inspection yesterday. Inspector walked around inside the building acting like he knew what he was looking at. He said, " I guess it's all good. Doesn't look like it's going anywhere." And he gets a paycheck for that.
I'm also scheduled to have my service panel installed on December 9th. One outlet below the panel, one switched outlet in center of ceiling for one high bay LED fixture, three outlets for the garage door openers. Minimum. Then I'll finish as needed.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL WHO HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS THREAD !! :beer:
 
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Looking good John and I’d imagine you and I ain’t much different. You look at a certain aspect of a project and don’t think twice about jumping in. Then on about day three ya realize ****!, I ain’t who I used to be. It ***** when life smacks you upside the head like that.

Just a question as I know you gave thought to everything. How come wood for the fur out and not hat track?
 
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Looking good John and I’d imagine you and I ain’t much different. You look at a certain aspect of a project and don’t think twice about jumping in. Then on about day three ya realize ****!, I ain’t who I used to be. It ***** when life smacks you upside the head like that.

Just a question as I know you gave thought to everything. How come wood for the fur out and not hat track?
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I'm a carpenter first. Studded walls sheathed in 5/8" plywood will give me the most options for mounting or attaching whatever I want to the walls. If I want to mount something really heavy I can locate studs. Plywood alone has weight limitations, so hat track would leave me a lot more "weak" areas. Price was almost the same. The 2x4 stud faces are flush to steel frame faces, where the hat would stick out another 1-1/2" . I also hate TEK screws. Did a few commercial build-outs years ago and did not enjoy working with steel studs .
 
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I'm a carpenter first. Studded walls sheathed in 5/8" plywood will give me the most options for mounting or attaching whatever I want to the walls. If I want to mount something really heavy I can locate studs. Plywood alone has weight limitations, so hat track would leave me a lot more "weak" areas. Price was almost the same. The 2x4 stud faces are flush to steel frame faces, where the hat would stick out another 1-1/2" . I also hate TEK screws. Did a few commercial build-outs years ago and did not enjoy working with steel studs .
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My house is all steel framing; most of it heavy gauge. It was built by a commercial framing contractor as his own home.
After two years I have come to appreciate Teks screws.

Think Termites, John…you’re in Florida now.
 
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My house is all steel framing; most of it heavy gauge. It was built by a commercial framing contractor as his own home.
After two years I have come to appreciate Teks screws.

Think Termites, John…you’re in Florida now.
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Nah , I have about 135 yards of concrete under and around this building. Plus, they required a complete termite treatment of the soil before the slab was poured.
 
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Most of the jobs I do (watch) are steel.
Try carrying 25 wood studs up stairs😜

I also never hear them complain about the ****** wood you get these days.

I’ve done a few residential jobs that due to remote/limited access they required steel to get the fire rating.
 
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Looking good. Didn’t realize you were starting framing so soon. I’ll be over tomorrow to supervise and to check your work.
I also know a guy with scaffolding and walk boards that might help.
 
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Started framing out the interior walls. Up and down the ladder wears me out. How the hell did I do this **** for 35 years ?!!


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Awesome work, I have read your thread and glad to see you past most of those problems!

If you don’t mind me asking how’s the detail for the connections between the metal frame and the wooden frame work? Horizontal beams are screwed tonthe metal studs or something else? I’ve had trouble finding an explanation of the detail there online, and I’ve never worked with steel myself.
 
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Awesome work, I have read your thread and glad to see you past most of those problems!

If you don’t mind me asking how’s the detail for the connections between the metal frame and the wooden frame work? Horizontal beams are screwed tonthe metal studs or something else? I’ve had trouble finding an explanation of the detail there online, and I’ve never worked with steel myself.
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There are no horizontal beams. Everything is 2x4 studs with 2x4 top and bottom plates. Basic wall framing. If you're referring to the top and bottom plates, the bottom plates are connected to the steel plates with 2-1/2" TEK screws , the top plates are attached with brackets to the steel 'legs'.
 
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There are no horizontal beams. Everything is 2x4 studs with 2x4 top and bottom plates. Basic wall framing. If you're referring to the top and bottom plates, the bottom plates are connected to the steel plates with 2-1/2" TEK screws , the top plates are attached with brackets to the steel 'legs'.
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Yes, thank you! I was referring to the plates and didn’t know the right word. Thanks kindly!
 
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John, looks like it's coming together nicely now! Am I correct that the farmed-out parts of the build are now pretty much over? Sounds like the rest is in your court.

Nicely done!
 
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John, looks like it's coming together nicely now! Am I correct that the farmed-out parts of the build are now pretty much over? Sounds like the rest is in your court.

Nicely done!
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Mostly. I have electrical service scheduled on Dec. 9th. Still shopping for the best spray foam insulation deal. And STILL waiting for the trim for all three garage doors.
 
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