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So after reading the forums pretty thoroughly, I decided that we desperately needed another ICON Tool Box Thread 😊

This one is a bit different though, I have actually purchased (though not received, more on that later) an ICON box set-up. I figured maybe there would be value/interest in a detailed discussion of the entire process, my experiences and impressions so far, what led to this decision, and finally what I see are good things and bad things. I have tried to break this down into sections for easy reading and following. This is long, but hopefully interesting to a potential buyer.

What I bought and What I paid: Let’s get this out of the way up here. I settled on a 56ā€ Chest, 56ā€ Top and a 28ā€ Locker. I was torn between this set up and a 72ā€ Top and Bottom, but ended up going this way. We will see if I regret it.

The Price I paid is different from the prices listed on the website (I just noticed this now while writing this up). It is honestly kind of weird now that I take a closer look, but according to my receipt I paid the following with all items being listed as ā€œPre-Saleā€

Item 81748 56ā€ Chest: Website says 2199, my receipt says 1799.10

Item 81751 56ā€ Top: Website says 1699, my receipt says 1529.10

Item 81775 28ā€ Side Locker: Website says 1499, my receipt says 1349.10

Item 82051 Matching Lock set: Website says 20, my receipt says 17.99

Subtotal 5216.99

10% Discount from the card: 521.70

6% sales tax: 281.73

Out the Door Price 4977.02



My background:
I am a prosumer I suppose. I work on things I own, I tinker, I screw about in the garage, I am handy enough to fix most things I am dumb enough to break. I am also 100% a white-collar worker who does things as a hobby and passion. I will (more than likely) never earn money or make a living with my tools.

The Decision: I own several US General Boxes (26ā€ top and bottom, 44ā€ bottom) and I have outgrown them almost as quickly as I bought them. I have always loved the USG boxes, and honestly, I started this journey fully expecting to buy more of the same. My budget was roughly 5k (As a cash buyer). Really, my only requirement was that the box be blue, and be big enough so that I didn’t have to buy another tool box in a year or two. I started at my local HF which also happened to have an ICON Box display. Again, I fully expected to just walk in and buy a USG 72 or something, except I realized in about 10 seconds that I ABSOLUTELY HATED AND DESPISED the little plastic tab thing on the USG drawers for chests larger than 44ā€. After fiddling with the boxes for half an hour or so, USG Was out. Went home, started doing research on alternatives. This forum of course was a major source of options, all of which I explored to the best of my abilities.

Long story short, after exploring the options and ideas presented here on the forum, I realized other than the box being blue, things that actually mattered to me included: Delivery and being able to touch and feel the box (TWSS),and the drawers having detents to retain them as opposed to mechanical opening (Lifts, triggers etc). This unfortunately eliminated a bunch of the on-line sellers, the used options on Craigslist (Slim pickings here, but I did look), and even some of the stores that sold other things of interest because I couldn’t get a full set up of the box in my garage. I have no hoist or other type tool to lift a 4-600# top box in place, so I would rather have the burly delivery guys deal with it.

Personally, the ICON box felt good, and even though there were a few issues with the display (some drawers didn’t fully extend for instance) I chalked it up to people being idiots in a store, and more specifically given where this particular store is located, people just trying to wreck things for fun. I liked the drawer layout, I like the charging drawer, I like the tool storage drawer, that will be a MAJOR upgrade for me storage wise. I like the way everything felt, and honestly, my display store put things together pretty well, things lined up nicely, the alignment was nice, things looked good and attractive.

So after 3 more days of poking around, researching, trying to weed out the shills from the haters from the 1 or 2 people that actually bought these things, I went back to purchase.

The Purchase: The store manager that I worked with was extremely nice and competent. Over the few days I was making my decision, I spoke with her a few times about the ICON things she was knowledgeable, helpful, knew the stats and details, but I also got the impression I was one of a handful of people who had ever shown any serious interest. As I mentioned, this store is not in the…nicest part of town. Not dangerous per se, but certainly seen better days. Regardless, I have my design, order the box, pay on the Harbor Freight Credit Card (Taking advantage of the 10% Discount. More on this in a minute) She checks stock, sees it is all there, and away we go. I am fully expecting my new tool chest set up by about mid-June. Purchasing was very easy and straight forward, it seems that you have to work with a store manager for purchase, the regular sales people were unable to help and were honestly, pretty unknowledgeable.

The Aftermath: I made my purchase on June 1, and on the 14th I called the Dedicated ICON support line (Which didn’t seem particularly dedicated all in all) to inquire about scheduling delivery. The person on the phone was very helpful and extremely apologetic when she informed me that actually NONE of my boxes were in stock, one of them was coming end of the month and the rest END OF JULY which means delivery won’t be expected until the first or second week of August. Which is where the story ends for now. Aside from being more than a bit annoyed, I am at a bit of a dead end. Do I cancel the order? (Wife says that is stupid). Do I settle for a USG Box that is more readily available? (Wife says that is even more stupid). Do I get back researching a finding a different box? (Wife rolled her eyes and made several comments about me preferring to agonize over research and decisions).

Now, we wait I suppose. There will be an update when I get the box (As well as pictures etc) for now however, this is where things stand. For now however, please see some below information that you may find useful. I am still debating going back and seeing if the 72ā€ stuff is what was actually in stock because that is what the manager and I looked at originally. 2 month wait is a really long time

Comments and Observations

Credit Card:
The credit card is a nice thing! 10% off on your first purchase (As of June 2021 anyway), easy application on line, decision in 30 seconds AND 5% Harbor Freight Rewards. Here is where it gets stupid. I have a roughly 770 Credit score, my wife (Relevant information) has about a 740. We both make good money, especially relative to the purchase price of the items we are trying to buy. I was approved for the card with a $2500 limit. I called and talked with someone trying to get it raised, no dice. It seems the max they (Synchrony Bank) will approve you for a HF credit card is $2500 until you have ā€œexperience working with that level of creditā€. Okay, fine, whatever. My wife decides that she will also apply for a credit card, because we figure that if we both got 2500, that would cover the whole purchase after the 10% discount. Wrong. She was only approved for $2000. The long and short of it, is to buy this damned thing, we had to use 3 credit cards to do it. Which was simple, easy, HF was set up to do it, but all in all, pretty stupid.

My Comment on this, who the hell are they targeting this card and item to? If you are offering financing, that is great on a multiple thousand dollar box, but it is literally impossible to buy it on the credit card, unless you buy the smallest set up they have! Plus, if they are actually trying to compete with Snapon etc, I assume they would be having younger people with less established credit etc coming in. What the hell are they going to buy with a 1000 limit (Or less?)? That isn’t even enough for a USG set up depending on size. All in all, it is a bit weird and I am unsure of the point/direction.

Pricing: Really confusing to be honest. The price isn’t what the sticker says? The pre-sale ordering? I don’t’ know. I am not complaining, it saved me roughly $500 so what the hell. But still, odd

Coupons: I know that I just missed out on a 20% ICON specific coupon with no exceptions. That is really super annoying, but because of the confusion on prices, I genuinely don’t’ know if I would have been better off or not.

This was long, possibly boring without pictures etc, but maybe it will be valuable for someone! If you have any questions, please let me know! Always glad to talk (As you can tell)

Marc



 
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My Comment on this, who the hell are they targeting this card and item to?
People who don't have any money? :dunno:

If the borrower starts making regular payments, they will gladly up the limit.
 

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listen to the wife.
If you piss & moan about no stock and potential delivery delay you may get some cash back .
20% of would of been sweet ...
 
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People who don't have any money? :dunno:

If the borrower starts making regular payments, they will gladly up the limit.
Right, but the card lending limits seem so restrictive, that if I needed to buy a box, and didn't have money, I couldn't. A 72 inch box costs 2999 according to the website. I, someone with money, couldn't buy that cart on credit. So if someone else, without money, wanted to buy it on credit, they sure couldn't either. It just doesn't make sense to me.

But yes, potentially if you are a new buyer, apply for the card, buy some things, pay them off etc that will get you where you need to go. However that doesn't seem to be the same type of set up the tool trucks have (at least not according to the sorties and comments I have read throughout this forum). It jusdt doesn't seem to make as much sense all in all.
 
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listen to the wife.
If you piss & moan about no stock and potential delivery delay you may get some cash back .
20% of would of been sweet ...

My wife is the master of these kinds of conversations, she has already offered to do the bitching for me, she is way more successful at it than I am. But I will probably listen to her overall :)
 
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Right, but the card lending limits seem so restrictive, that if I needed to buy a box, and didn't have money, I couldn't. A 72 inch box costs 2999 according to the website. I, someone with money, couldn't buy that cart on credit. So if someone else, without money, wanted to buy it on credit, they sure couldn't either. It just doesn't make sense to me.

But yes, potentially if you are a new buyer, apply for the card, buy some things, pay them off etc that will get you where you need to go. However that doesn't seem to be the same type of set up the tool trucks have (at least not according to the sorties and comments I have read throughout this forum). It jusdt doesn't seem to make as much sense all in all.
Just a guess, but maybe they wat people to buy some tools first, that they cannot afford, before a $3000 tool box, they also cannot afford. :dunno:
 
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Just a guess, but maybe they wat people to buy some tools first, that they cannot afford, before a $3000 tool box, they also cannot afford. :dunno:
Perhaps. As they are targeting "professionals", or atleast prosumers, I am not sure I see the logic in that approach

I have a feeling it is more along the lines of the bank not willing to extend credit based on the harbor freight vusi was model/expected customer. Will be I teresting to see what comes of this in the future
 

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I also applied for a HF credit card, +6mos ago. I had intentions on doubling up with the 20% and 10% card bonus and purchasing a Icon box. I was also approved for only $2500 and went as far as calling the issuing bank of synchrony bank and speaking with the credit department. I politely inquired on why the limit was so low compared to my other accounts thru the same bank and to see if I could get a CLI for special purchase and would immediately pay the balance in full. No dice..

I will say... I am not the Credit card companies target customer, If I’m using a credit card it’s either because of some sort of promotion or security concern and they get paid off ASAP.

I doubt HF gives a **** on what there customers are purchasing with the card in regards to tools, boxes or model airplanes. The CL’s are more than likely a way to limit the discounts on big purchases and I get it, Your talking up to 30% of discount and 5% HF bucks when they had the 20% Icon coupon, that’s pretty substantial. I locked my card in the safe, it will probably get cancelled for Non use and I’m leaning toward a Tekton 30ā€ deep box while the 20% promo is going on.
 
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I also applied for a HF credit card, +6mos ago. I had intentions on doubling up with the 20% and 10% card bonus and purchasing a Icon box. I was also approved for only $2500 and went as far as calling the issuing bank of synchrony bank and speaking with the credit department. I politely inquired on why the limit was so low compared to my other accounts thru the same bank and to see if I could get a CLI for special purchase and would immediately pay the balance in full. No dice..

I will say... I am not the Credit card companies target customer, If I’m using a credit card it’s either because of some sort of promotion or security concern and they get paid off ASAP.

I doubt HF gives a **** on what there customers are purchasing with the card in regards to tools, boxes or model airplanes. The CL’s are more than likely a way to limit the discounts on big purchases and I get it, Your talking up to 30% of discount and 5% HF bucks when they had the 20% Icon coupon, that’s pretty substantial. I locked my card in the safe, it will probably get cancelled for Non use and I’m probably going to buy a Tekton 30ā€ deep box while the 20% promo is going on.
I made the same call. You are probably right about limits discount, BUT, from a financing perspective, not everyone can afford a 5k+ box set up so the limit makes slightly less sense.

I also looked at the tekton sale, it is definately tempting, but I am worried about buying something like this untouched and unseen
 

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As far as cancelling if you're considering the USG box, make sure it's in stock. I just purchased a blue 44" USG last month, the manager said they had the top in stock, but only one, and it was October until he could get another. He said they didn't have a bottom and it wouldn't be in stock until the end of July. My truck bed was already full that day so when I came back the next day to order it all and take the top box home, he said he'd found a bottom blue box in the back behind about 15 other boxes. He had plenty of red and black boxes in the back, but just that one blue set.
 

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Perhaps. As they are targeting "professionals", or atleast prosumers, I am not sure I see the logic in that approach

I have a feeling it is more along the lines of the bank not willing to extend credit based on the harbor freight vusi was model/expected customer. Will be I teresting to see what comes of this in the future
That likely means nothing to the bank - who is on the hook for the debt, not HF, who would likely give $10,000 in cred. :lol:

They know full well people generally want credit, because they don't have money.

Personally I doubt, that many just get the card for the discount, then just pay the entire balance off and be done with it. This is America. :dunno:
 

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Strange still I am lost in this...The 56 box is listed at 2199.00 and the top box is listed at 1699.00 and the op gets a "Pre sale" lower p[rice break, how does that work ??? Never heard of this before now.
 
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Strange still I am lost in this...The 56 box is listed at 2199.00 and the top box is listed at 1699.00 and the op gets a "Pre sale" lower p[rice break, how does that work ??? Never heard of this before now.
I k ow right? I haven't a freaking clue. That is how they ring up in the book when she scanned it. I also feel like I read this somewhere. But honestly, I have no idea how/ why this worked
 

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Cancel and buy a used pro (truck brand) box. There are plea ty of the ā€œgoodā€ boxes out there. And you don’t need to research just find what you are looking for. You said blue with a hutch?

where are you located?
 
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Cancel and buy a used pro (truck brand) box. There are plea ty of the ā€œgoodā€ boxes out there. And you don’t need to research just find what you are looking for. You said blue with a hutch?

where are you located?
Detroit metro.and no, I don't want a hutch.i have looked through craigslist, if you can think of another place to look, then I am glad to take a look there as well.

Also, in my post I did mention wanting a few things like delivery and set up. I am not sure that used is going to get me that

Is you opinion to buy used based on anything other than not thinking I should buy icon? Price and value from I have seen used seems pretty much in line with what I paid ...
 

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I k ow right? I haven't a freaking clue. That is how they ring up in the book when she scanned it. I also feel like I read this somewhere. But honestly, I have no idea how/ why this worked
The price that rang up is after the 10% discount, if your take all individual prices and add in the tax it matches the ā€œout the door priceā€ given. It only gives you 10% once.
 
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I picked up a Snap On krl7022 (54x29) for $2k last year and it was the best tool box decision i’ve made. i could have gotten the USG (72 x22) for $1400 ish with tax. But for me the quality and drawer layout of the snapon was worth the extra $. But i didn’t realize the delivery was that important to you. You wont get that white glove service with used.
 
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The price that rang up is after the 10% discount, if your take all individual prices and add in the tax it matches the ā€œout the door priceā€ given. It only gives you 10% once.
Right, I thought this as well, but there is still a discrepancy with the bottom chest.

2199 list price less 10% is for all intents and purposes 1980. Not 1799.10. Unless the list is not correct on the website?
 

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Right, I thought this as well, but there is still a discrepancy with the bottom chest.

2199 list price less 10% is for all intents and purposes 1980. Not 1799.10. Unless the list is not correct on the website?

Must still be $1999.00 in store on the 56ā€ bottom box, I think the math works out that way.
 
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Must still be $1999.00 in store on the 56ā€ bottom box, I think the math works out that way.
Fair enough. Either way, this serves to illustrate my point of not having the most convenient and transparent pricing!

Also, was the bottom box ever 1999? I have no idea
 

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Fair enough. Either way, this serves to illustrate my point of not having the most convenient and transparent pricing!

Also, was the bottom box ever 1999? I have no idea
I believe it was when it first came out, one could probably scroll back thru some old threads to verify. I suspect when the powers at be see this thread, HF will fix the issue.

Curiosity got the best of me and I couldn’t find any $1999 pricing posts.. Who knows?
 
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OP other places to look for tool truck boxes. Your local tool truck driver more than likely sells used boxes and most likely will deliver. Also check Facebook marketplace. Nothing against icon just putting options out there
 
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OP other places to look for tool truck boxes. Your local tool truck driver more than likely sells used boxes and most likely will deliver. Also check Facebook marketplace. Nothing against icon just putting options out there
I have been keeping an eye on FBM. as for my local driver, as a home owner with no shop connections, I have no clue who/what that is. For lack of any better ideas, I reached out this afternoon to Snapon through the "Find a Franchisee" link on their website. We will see if someone gets back to me and if they have anything of interest laying around!

I figure that I can explore the tool box driver angle while waiting, time seems to be on my side at this point!
 

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Well today was the very first time I've gotten to check out HF's new stuff. Pretty damn nice actually, I was impressed for the most part. BTW OP, I was at a store in Prescott AZ and they were loaded with all kinds of inventory. I don't think there was anything on your list they didn't have in stock.
 

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Go to closest car dealer and find a mechanic walking around outside and just ask which tool truck comes by and when. They usually follow a route so they show up pretty predictably. And the guy may not extend credit to you but you damn sure should sell you a box. He may also have traded units or repo units
 

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I finally got to touch one of the Icon boxes. They're nice. I'd probably wait it out unless you can switch to the 72" box.
 

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That's where ya lost me, same outfit does Amazon cards & they're a complete ***********. They even make paying the damn bill a PITA. I about reached the limit of my patience making the first payment. The second month they didn't send a bill until it was already overdue. I was actually thinking of just telling them to go **** themselves. Ended up paying it off & cancelled the card after one use.
 

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Yeah synchrony is a pain, had them for discount tire account and everything was a pain. Imo their predatory lender as bad as anything out there, unfortunately I wish HF had gone with someone else and then new tech's could have gotten a start on building their credit rather than being screwed right off the bat.

Op the Icon boxes are nice, around here that $2k for the 56" would only buy junk truck boxes. And with the back log of orders lots of mechanics are scrambling to get something in the mean time.
 

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Lending money to people who can't afford to buy some of the cheapest tools made?

Hard to imagine American Express and the other blue-blood lenders, are not lining up for the opportunity. :headscrat
 

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According to Nick at JDTco, HF is running to put tool truck guys out of business with their credit card offerings.
 

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What with, recall ratchets, back order minimal range boxes and a couple of socket sets !
HF got lot of work to do and looking at how long it taken them get this far it be a decade or 2 before they step up another notch .
 
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I finally got to touch one of the Icon boxes. They're nice. I'd probably wait it out unless you can switch to the 72" box.

I’m waiting on another 20% coupon. Already decided on Icon but want to get the best deal possible as I don’t need it right away.
I am going to talk to the store manager today about seeing if it is possible to switch up or not. All in all, am super displeased with the wait. although I suppose it does allow me to do some additional research that I didn't want to do I guess.

I wanted to wait for a coupon as well, but I couldn't even figure out frequently they do or don't come out. So I just bought it, Plus, as I am redoing my garage after moving into a new house, having all of that sorted would be nice
That's where ya lost me, same outfit does Amazon cards & they're a complete ***********. They even make paying the damn bill a PITA. I about reached the limit of my patience making the first payment. The second month they didn't send a bill until it was already overdue. I was actually thinking of just telling them to go **** themselves. Ended up paying it off & cancelled the card after one use.

Yeah synchrony is a pain, had them for discount tire account and everything was a pain. Imo their predatory lender as bad as anything out there, unfortunately I wish HF had gone with someone else and then new tech's could have gotten a start on building their credit rather than being screwed right off the bat.

Op the Icon boxes are nice, around here that $2k for the 56" would only buy junk truck boxes. And with the back log of orders lots of mechanics are scrambling to get something in the mean time.

Lending money to people who can't afford to buy some of the cheapest tools made?

Hard to imagine American Express and the other blue-blood lenders, are not lining up for the opportunity. :headscrat
I have never had an issue with Synchrony. They also do the Lowes cards, and any small issue that comes up, a quick phone call is all it takes to solve it. I also have 6-8 other Synchrony cards for thing I have done over the years. For me personally it is more of a cash flow tool @0% or in this case, a 10% discount. Odd that so many people have had issues with them!

As for the blueblood lenders, those are actual credit cards, Synchrony I think technically extends a line of credit(or something with a technical distinction). Your discount tire card can't be used at McDonalds, nor can my Lowes Card. My Costco card (Backed by Visa and previously Amex) can be used anywhere Visa is accepted. It is a different type of instrument. I don't think it is a matter of bluebloods vs not (Lowes is a pretty big company that does the same thing. As do most of the big department stores etc), I think it is more of "What do we want to offer". I am more annoyed by the low limits, but meh.

Oh, as a financial note, if you do the one purchase thing and get pissed, DON'T CANCEL THE CARD. toss it in a drawer/safe/lockbox, eventually they will cancel it for non use, BUT int he meantime, the expanded credit profile is usually beneficial to your credit score. Dropping it immediately (Or at any point really) is not as good. Just my .02!
 

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As for the blueblood lenders, those are actual credit cards, Synchrony I think technically extends a line of credit(or something with a technical distinction). Your discount tire card can't be used at McDonalds, nor can my Lowes Card. My Costco card (Backed by Visa and previously Amex) can be used anywhere Visa is accepted. It is a different type of instrument. I don't think it is a matter of bluebloods vs not (Lowes is a pretty big company that does the same thing. As do most of the big department stores etc), I think it is more of "What do we want to offer". I am more annoyed by the low limits, but meh.
A credit is a credit card, where stuff is purchased on credit and has to be paid back. Where it can be used is wholly dependent on the issuer.

Visa does not lend a nickel, they only process credit card transactions.

Costco Visa goes though Citi bank, obviously Harbor Freight uses someone less robust. Ironically and for their own reasons, Costco does not except Discover or American Express, which are accepted most everywhere else.
 
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A credit is a credit card, where stuff is purchased on credit and has to be paid back. Where it can be used is wholly dependent on the issuer.

Visa does not lend a nickel, they only process credit card transactions.

Costco Visa goes though Citi bank, obviously Harbor Freight uses someone less robust. Ironically and for their own reasons, Costco does not except Discover or American Express, which are accepted most everywhere else.
It isn't less robust to offer a store credit card. it is a line of credit at a particular location vs one that can be used elsewhere. it isn't a matter of using a less robust processer. You are correct about Visa/master Card, however Discover and American Express DO lend money and while they offer co-branded products, they are all (Or all that I am aware of) run centrally through American Express/Discover directly.

Costco used to be an American express (Or debit) only store, however 4 years ago or so they changed to Visa branding due to a better fee structure. As part of their agreements, they only accept Visa Cards (Or debit cards with any branding).
 

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What with, recall ratchets, back order minimal range boxes and a couple of socket sets !
HF got lot of work to do and looking at how long it taken them get this far it be a decade or 2 before they step up another notch .
I think half the reason they have got as far as they have in the last 10 years or so is because of Eddie Lampert.

If I ordered a box, told it was in stock only to be told afterwards that it was months out, I probably would have cancelled the order right then and there.
 
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