New Impact Wrenches

[600SL]

After 40 years of service my old 1/2" CP and 3/4" IR wrenches just don't have the snot. I can no longer find a tune up kit for the CP 735 unless the 734 kit fits. The 3/4" IR I still need to investigate.

In any case it looks like some new impact wrenches are in the near future. But there is a lot of new technology out there that I'm just not up to speed on.

1) Composite housing impact wrenches. I can defiantly see these as a plus working out doors in the winter months, and at my age light weight is a plus.

2) Cordless impacts. Has anyone traded in there air for a cordless all together, or is it just a nice addition.

So what are the members recommendations.

 

[kctyphoon]

if i were a professional mechanic - there is not even a ******* doubt in my mind that i would be buying the m7 stuff.. the impact wrenches offer the most power, vs size (they will fit almost anywhere) and they make a clone of the IR hammerhead for under $200 i think - w/ 180ftlbs of torque.. the impact torque ratings are something like 350 for the 3/8 and 500 for the 1/2.. NOT my picture.. but heres a size comparision - every review ive read from people that actually own them love em... for like $120 for either the 3/8 or 1/2 - it would be hard for me not to buy ALL of them if i were a pro.. i believe the one in the pic is the 1/2"


may even be enough money left in the budget to buy the cordless milwaukee 3/8" compact fuel too..

here: $260 for BOTH the 3/8" and 1/2" w/free shipping on amazon
Mighty Seven (NC-4611QNC) Mighty Quiet 3/8" Drive and 1/2" Drive Mini Impact Wrench, (Set of Two Wrenches) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LB4JE7E/?tag=atomicindus08-20

$220 free ship for the 3/8 hammerhead clone: 180ftlbs
m7 Mighty Seven NE-399 3/8 in. Drive Air Impact Ratchet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LUEXQ9W/?tag=atomicindus08-20

$200 - for the 1/2" hammerhead clone - 250ftlbs
m7 Mighty Seven NE-499 1/2 in. Drive Air Impact Ratchet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LUEXR4G/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[GTA Matt]

Th m7 doesn't really have the nuts to be a go-to, daily impact. Its is a great addition to your arsenal, but it really doesn't have the power to be the only impact in your box. The ingersol 2135timax IMO is one of the industry standards. There are cheaper (aircat) and more expensive (snap on), so it depends on your budget. I've used all 3 and they are honestly very similar in power, the snap on is the heaviest.

 

[articsilber323]

i was using nitrocat 1200k 1/2 and 1355xl 3/8 air impacts for a while, i bought Milwaukee 3/8 and 1/2 fuel and use them completely now

 

[Pumpman1968]

There is an ebayer selling the 1/2" for $100 shipped. Never saw these before....going to look into it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/King-Tony-K...965?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c4c509205

 

[ex-x-fire]

Th m7 doesn't really have the nuts to be a go-to, daily impact. Its is a great addition to your arsenal, but it really doesn't have the power to be the only impact in your box. The ingersol 2135timax IMO is one of the industry standards. There are cheaper (aircat) and more expensive (snap on), so it depends on your budget. I've used all 3 and they are honestly very similar in power, the snap on is the heaviest.

I've been using my 1/2 M7 for about a year now in the shop, it really handles most jobs with no problem. Universals sap some of its power though and I do keep a 231 for the frozen stuff.

 

[Shadowdog500]

I'm a home user and have a HF earthquake. It can be bought on sale with a coupon for around $80 and has 700 ft-lb of torque and will remove anything I tried it on with ease. It is a clone of the IR gun that costs twice the price. If you are a pro and want to spend the extra money get the IR gun.

Chris

 

[bcradio]

If your budget is high, I'd get the IR 2235 or the new Proto gun. If you are looking to save some coin I'd get the Harbor Freight Earthquake.

My personal opinion:
-Home user: HF Earthquake
-Pro: Proto or IR

 

[DanInVA]

I own a few cordless tools (don't have air at home) and I like them, but I don't see cordless completely overtaking air. I use an ir 2135qtimax at work, and I love it. The size, the weight, and the power are right. As previously stated, it is kind of an industry standard, and I think it has earned that.

Also worth considering is the IR 2235. It is a pretty recent addition to IR's lineup. It is a bit bigger and heavier than the 2135, but if you need something that can deliver 3/4" torque, it may be a good option for you.

 

[RedneckWelder]

Pro user.

Personally I prefer air for what I do, which is heavy equipment work (gets really nasty).

I use a Nitrocat 1200K 1/2 gun and a Cornwell CAT2150 3/8 gun. Satisfied with both. The 3/8 gun is very compact and I have a short whip on it to allow it to get into tight spaces.

I don't know what kind of work you do, but you may find that with the newer 1/2 guns you have enough power to do away with the 3/4 guns, at least for auto service.

I also really, really, really like the Proto impacts, they would be my choice for buying new now. I'm going to get their 3/4 gun soon.

 

[Bondo]

I own a few cordless tools (don't have air at home) and I like them, but I don't see cordless completely overtaking air. I use an ir 2135qtimax at work, and I love it. The size, the weight, and the power are right. As previously stated, it is kind of an industry standard, and I think it has earned that.

Also worth considering is the IR 2235. It is a pretty recent addition to IR's lineup. It is a bit bigger and heavier than the 2135, but if you need something that can deliver 3/4" torque, it may be a good option for you.

Ayuh,.... I bought one a couple months ago,....

Side by side, the 2235 is the same as the 2135,...

Pull the trigger, 'n the difference is Obvious,...

The 2235 is 900ft.lbs. as soon as ya pull the trigger,...
Hold the trigger, 'n hammer on it, it goes to 1200ft.lbs.,...
Both directions,...

It's the Best tool money I've ever spent,....

 

[kctyphoon]

Th m7 doesn't really have the nuts to be a go-to, daily impact. Its is a great addition to your arsenal, but it really doesn't have the power to be the only impact in your box. The ingersol 2135timax IMO is one of the industry standards. There are cheaper (aircat) and more expensive (snap on), so it depends on your budget. I've used all 3 and they are honestly very similar in power, the snap on is the heaviest.

im curious what makes you say that? do you own one? i dont, but your really cannot find something bad written about these from people that do, and use them professionally. im not saying your wrong - but there are many people that say they use cheap, even harbor freight, impacts professionally without issue. their 3/8" is as strong as the 1/2" i use at home, and ive never not been able to remove what ive needed to with what i have. i cant imagine someone not being able to do 90 - 95% of what they need to with those 2 guns, and then buying a cheap 3/4" earthquake for those impossible bolts..

im mean - these days many guys are using the cordless milwaukee as a primary gun - i cant imagine the m7's NOT outperforming them in terms of longevity and cost..

heres a video demo - not great - but something -

king tony tools info -

edit : and a thread from people on this site giving them reviews..
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=181322

 

[GTA Matt]

Yes, I own one. It is a fantastic impact for its size, but on several occasions, I have run into fasteners it simply will not remove. I now only grab it when I'm working in an area with limited space because I got tired of having to go grab a bigger gun. I don't expect it to remove pinion nuts, but I've had lugnuts and brake caliper bolts it can't remove. I'm not saying its a bad gun, just I wouldn't recommend it as your only gun. I have four 1/2" impacts, the m7, mac aw284qa which is my go to simply for its light weight, it has a slight power advantage over the m7 and doesn't seem as affected by extensions or swivels, an mg725 and a cordless matco. I also have the new proto 3/4 gun for the stubborn jobs.

If I was in the market for a new, powerful 1/2 impact, and it was to be my only gun, my personal choices would be between the ir2135 and 2235. Again, nothing wrong with aircat, snap on, mac, etc., just my personal choice is all.

 

[stikman56]

After 40 years of service my old 1/2" CP and 3/4" IR wrenches just don't have the snot. I can no longer find a tune up kit for the CP 735 unless the 734 kit fits. The 3/4" IR I still need to investigate.

In any case it looks like some new impact wrenches are in the near future. But there is a lot of new technology out there that I'm just not up to speed on.

1) Composite housing impact wrenches. I can defiantly see these as a plus working out doors in the winter months, and at my age light weight is a plus.

2) Cordless impacts. Has anyone traded in there air for a cordless all together, or is it just a nice addition.

So what are the members recommendations.

Speaking as a fellow who's seen them from the inside out and uses them on my job, tests them , repairs them, etc. My choice would be (if price was no issue). I have many favorites for 1/2" guns, for different reasons. For small,but very powerful, the Cornwell CAT4150, AKA Napa 6-1123. Great gun, tough as nails. For smooth, quiet, killer torque, any Nitrocat, I have a 1000M myself, with 1200K parts in it. Can't say on the IR 2235 as I haven't seen one in person yet. Matco MT2769 is crazy strong, felt cheap to me though.
For 3/4", I'd buy an IR 2145qimax, they built them well, they are powerful and light. 2141 is good, just not made as heavy duty on the inside.

Budget, I'd search used composites on ebay or craigslist.

New, on a budget, I'd most likely get the Earthquake 3/8" and 1/2". The green 3/4" impact they sell for around $100.00 is a good strong wrench. Best bang for the buck, I feel. Can't remember the number on that one, but it's the only green 3/4" they sell now, I think.

 

[yota85]

I have not used my 1/2" air gun sense I bought my 1/2" Milwaukee fuel. But I also work out of a field truck so starting my gas air compressor this time of year in northern Michigan can be a PITA. But I use my 3/4 composite IR on anything my cordless won't break free.

 

[GSteg]

If weight is a concern, I would avoid cordless. There are many 1/2" air guns on the market now that are as powerful as older 3/4" gun without the extra weight.

 

[600SL]

Thanks for the replies. A lot of good info. The M7 is interesting but is certainly not my first choice in that just to remove a wheel would require an extension. But certainly an option for confined chassis work. Those IR hammerheads look awesome.

 

[kctyphoon]

Thanks for the replies. A lot of good info. The M7 is interesting but is certainly not my first choice in that just to remove a wheel would require an extension. But certainly an option for confined chassis work. Those IR hammerheads look awesome.

theres an answer for that too: 1/2" twin hammer -


$200 - 850 ftlbs..

here:
m7 Mighty Seven NC-4233Q 1/2 in. Drive Twin Hammer Composite Air Impact Wrench https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MP40WCU/?tag=atomicindus08-20

another 1/2" - little shorter, 1000ftlbs - $320
1/2" Drive Mighty Quiet Air Impact Wrench-by-KING TONY AMERICA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GT737W6/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[kctyphoon]

******OR******

1/2" - 400 ftlbs..


here : $130

m7 Mighty Seven NC-4620HQ 1/2 in. Drive Air Impact Wrench (2 in. Anvil) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MC8L3MW/?tag=atomicindus08-20

i swear i would probably own every model they make if i needed to buy my own stuff and use them every day.. the low prices allow buying different models instead of having to compromise with one very expensive gun and use that for everything..
PLUS - they look cool

 

[kctyphoon]

with the flip socket combo..

last link - king tony america 1/2" impact menu -

http://www.kingtonyamerica.com/products/products_m7.asp?showid=8&kind=3&id=803

sorry for multiple posts - for some reason i cant get more than one picture to dispay on each reply. good luck with whatever you pick - just trying to show there are alot of options under this label people dont know about since its not very popular here yet..

 

[DanInVA]

Ayuh,.... I bought one a couple months ago,....

Side by side, the 2235 is the same as the 2135,...

Pull the trigger, 'n the difference is Obvious,...

The 2235 is 900ft.lbs. as soon as ya pull the trigger,...
Hold the trigger, 'n hammer on it, it goes to 1200ft.lbs.,...
Both directions,...

It's the Best tool money I've ever spent,....

Good to know, thanks for your input. I haven't actually seen up close or gotten to use the 2235, I honestly thought it was bigger. Someday I will be having air at home, and with my experience with the 2135, I had considered it the obvious choice. I will have to check out a 2235 when I get a chance.

 

[redwrench60]

Ayuh,.... I bought one a couple months ago,....

Side by side, the 2235 is the same as the 2135,...

That's not quite right, The 2235ti is slightly bigger and heavier than the 2135ti but it's minor. Here's a comparison pic of mine, I own both. But you are absolutely right when you say the 2235ti is absolutely more powerfull than the 2135ti it replaced. Mine's been in daily use in the shop for a while now and even gets used by others in the shop for "rescue duty" when other impacts (including the precious Fuel 1/2" cordless) fall short.

I can't imagine using one of those M7 toy impacts as my primary impact. I would end up throwing that piss ant across the shop.......

 

[WhiffySpark]

Anyone found a boot for the 2235?

I think it has too much power for an 80 ft lb torque stick lol

I have 2135,2235, and the newest 1/2 snap on cordless