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Treorp55

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Got a new job working with foreclosed homes last month. After the bank gives us approval to clean a certain area...yard..home...garage...everything is free game. Seeing as how nobody else in the company wants anything, anything good comes home with me.

Greenlee 710 metal stud punch:
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Columbian Pennypincher vise. Does anyone have any info on this, i cant seem to find any other similar ones?:
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Estwing Hammer Display:
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I will be selling the metal stud punch and probably the vise. I also have brought home a couple boxes of copper plumbing pieces, a NIB barrel pump and a few other small items
 
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Treorp55

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Thanks i didnt see that yesterday...although mine looks a little better. I doubt if he will get that much for it though!
 

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Talk about adding insult to injury.....some poor ******* gets foreclosed on, then finds the cleaners gets his tools.....

OR - maybe it serves some sap right: could have bought all those tools (and much more) on credit he didn't have....left it all since it wasn't really "his" anyways....

Either ways - life in good ole U S of A.....eh?!
 
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Treorp55

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Ha...Most of the houses we do are dumps though. Flooded Basements, leaking roofs, ect. Would be much better if there was a way for the banks to get the utilities in their names ASAP instead of letting the sump pumps get turned off, or pipes to break.
 

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Talk about adding insult to injury.....some poor ******* gets foreclosed on, then finds the cleaners gets his tools.....

OR - maybe it serves some sap right: could have bought all those tools (and much more) on credit he didn't have....left it all since it wasn't really "his" anyways....

Either ways - life in good ole U S of A.....eh?!

I don't feel to bad for them, most around here live in the house over a year since their last payment. :wtf:
 

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Man, if I lost my home & then found some ******** cleaner taking my tools I'd be going to prison for a very long time....& they'd be looking for a new cleaner...
 
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Man, if I lost my home & then found some ******** cleaner taking my tools I'd be going to prison for a very long time....& they'd be looking for a new cleaner...

We Clean out these houses LONGGGGG after the people have got everything they intend on getting, usually around 6 months to a year after the people finally move out. Some just up and leave though! One mans junk is another mans treasure...
 

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These people stop making payments on the house long before the bank takes over. Pretty sure that once the home owner stops making payments they should have everything out of the house they want, since it's not their house anymore when they stop making payments.
 

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you think you found the jackpot, a buddy of mine works in the industry of fire damage repair to homes. the stuff he is aloud to take is unbelievable. he got a snap on racing edition top and bottom roll chest that smelt severely of smoke and got wet. owners took all the tools from it and left the box.
 
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Treo, who are you subcontracting for? Safeguard, MSC, LPS?

I'm in the same line of work, I've been doing it for about a year and a half now.

I don't think most people "in the real world" have any idea how others can live, if you guys saw the condition of some of these places.. It's unreal.

I've been pretty lucky in some of my finds. I've come across a ton of Matco and Mac stuff, Snappy has been few and far between, though I did come across a full set of shallow 1/2" 6pt sockets the other day. I got my hands on a near-new Ariens 2 stage snowblower, that made for a nice bonus. Some laptops here and there, usually they have busted screens but I've found a few that were new enough to spend the $50-70 to throw a new LCD panel in.

Other than that, I'm always well stocked in consumables. Grinding wheels, hacksaw/sawzall blades, WD40, Marvel Mystery Oil, PB, antifreeze, oil, you name it I'm good for a while ;) Oh, and I'll never have to buy a CFL light bulb for the next 15 years ;)

It's not glamourous and it can be less than fun, but you get out to a new place every day and you never know what you'll find. Last Wednesday we started off the day at a $12k **** hole in the ghetto, next stop ended up being a million dollar home (they still owed 750k before it was foreclosed on, oops).

The "finds" make it worth it sometimes.
 
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I work for a small family operation. We work mostly for Five Brothers and ____ Field Reps. Drawing a blank on the name. It is crazy what people leave behind. Ive been here about a month and love it. Some days it is some nasty work, but others its pretty easy. Working for a small company is also nice, my job is secure and it is VERY laid back.

The other guys NEVER take anything and think its crazy that i do. I dont understand why they would ever throw this stuff away. We have a metal dumpster at work and they toss everything in. I took out two large logging chains the other day as well.

What Part of the country do you work in? We do anywhere in Michigan south of Claire. Used to be Indiana and Ohio as well, but the company no longer wanted the drives.
 

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We handle south west PA (Pittsburgh area). We used to do everything, evics, initials and REO/housekeeping services, but we've scaled back to doing just initials / work per bids and grass cuts. Evictions started getting to... interesting and REO/housekeeping just doesn't pay well for the work done.

South of Claire? I know a little of the Detroit area, so I'm assuming St Clair Shores? My Dad lives on Wolverine Lake, so I get up there on occassion? Do you know if your company is hiring at all? He's looking for a few hours a week, he just retired from Snap On.
 

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So I just finished cutting grass and it dawned on me.. My 86' Kubota G6200H diesel garden tractor was another freebie from a repo.

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Not mine, but same model in nearly identical shape, same rust and wrinkles on the hood even. The fender pan has a crack in it (the entire fender deck is fiberglass) that was poorly repaired, but it works. It needs a little TLC to make it really nice, the motor is really strong, but then again it's not a Deere, so I just do the maintenance on it to keep her going. Eventually I'd like to find someone interested in trading a Deere 430 + some cash for it.
 

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If he is in the house cleaning he has permission to remove and dispose of EVERYTHING on the property. These people from these homes have overstayed there welcome. They are part of our financial problem. Theorp55 is only doing his job. If the PO wanted the stuff they would have taken it with them.
This is an exellent way of recycling. Keep up the good work.
Ron
 

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If he is in the house cleaning he has permission to remove and dispose of EVERYTHING on the property.

This isn't neccesarily true. Many times in our industry we are only approved to remove "health hazard" items, things like paint, thinner, solvents, oil, chemicals, fuel cans, food, "mixed" garbage, etc. I got the tractor and the snowblower because they contain oil and fuel, thus it's a liability for the mortgage company to have them sitting around. (A co-worker scored a Stihl 070 the other day.. bassid!). Typically the only time that it's a "free for all" is if the property is "post sale" (many, MANY times we repo houses that have just officially started foreclosure, even though they haven't been paying the mortgage for 6+ months, this is called a "pre-sale"). The other time it's a free for all is what we call a "trash out", when the bank has approved clearing everything out of the house so that housecleaning can be done. At least in our area, this doesn't happen often, I would take a WAG and say that 90% of our property's go up for sherrif sale sight unseen to the buyer.


These people from these homes have overstayed there welcome. They are part of our financial problem. Theorp55 is only doing his job. If the PO wanted the stuff they would have taken it with them.
This is an exellent way of recycling. Keep up the good work.
Ron

This is to an extent. What we have been running into quite a bit recently are still-occupied properties. More often than not, the tenants are long gone by the time we get the property contracted to us. However, lately the slum lords are getting smart. They're realizing that the banks aren't forclosing immediately, that it's taking 6-18 months for them to take any action. So you have slum lords pocketing this poor families rent money, never paying the mortgage. Now we're knocking on the doors of these unsespecting familes, not realizing that the landlord is pocketing the cash, the tenants have no idea that the house has been / is being forclosed on.

2'ish weeks ago we knocked on the door, a very nice late 20's girl with a new born and a 3 year old opens the door, her husband is at work to pay the bills. To see the look on their faces when you explain to them what is going on is just pitiful, they're world is coming crashing down. We don't do the evictions anymore and in an instance like that, we do what we can to help the family. We'll inform the bank that the property is still occupied and that they occupants are/were renting from the sleezbag mortgagee who owns the house. We explain to the tentants that either we or another contractor will be back in roughly two weeks and they really need to start looking for another place before an eviction company and a sherrif shows up with a U-haul. Typical evictions are like that, a few guys, a sherrif and a U-haul, they have 3 hours to get out whatever belongings they can and they go to a storage facility for up to 30 days, after that everything becomes property of the bank.

The job can be very humbling at times.
 
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Brandon explained the process very well. We only do initials, bid work and grass cuts as well. Like you stated, the first things we ever get approved to do is the Hazards and whenever they feel like it they will give the OK to clear everything else out. They may do the house one month, lawn the next, and garage the next after that. All depends on the property and bank. We also do repairs to houses that are worth it to the bank...drywall, roofs, gutters...as im sure you guys do the same.

My company is not hiring, we are in the Lansing area, and the company is a very small family operation.
 

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As the saying goes, "You've got to kiss alot of toads to find a prince."
Sounds like the same thing applies to your new job. But I'd bet the rewards make the hunt worth it.
 

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What we have been running into quite a bit recently are still-occupied properties. More often than not, the tenants are long gone by the time we get the property contracted to us. However, lately the slum lords are getting smart. They're realizing that the banks aren't forclosing immediately, that it's taking 6-18 months for them to take any action. So you have slum lords pocketing this poor families rent money, never paying the mortgage. Now we're knocking on the doors of these unsespecting familes, not realizing that the landlord is pocketing the cash, the tenants have no idea that the house has been / is being forclosed on.

2'ish weeks ago we knocked on the door, a very nice late 20's girl with a new born and a 3 year old opens the door, her husband is at work to pay the bills. To see the look on their faces when you explain to them what is going on is just pitiful, they're world is coming crashing down. We don't do the evictions anymore and in an instance like that, we do what we can to help the family. We'll inform the bank that the property is still occupied and that they occupants are/were renting from the sleezbag mortgagee who owns the house. We explain to the tentants that either we or another contractor will be back in roughly two weeks and they really need to start looking for another place before an eviction company and a sherrif shows up with a U-haul. Typical evictions are like that, a few guys, a sherrif and a U-haul, they have 3 hours to get out whatever belongings they can and they go to a storage facility for up to 30 days, after that everything becomes property of the bank.

The job can be very humbling at times.

I'm not surprised the you sometimes find people still in the house. Wrongful foreclosures are on the rise. Banks are foreclosing on so many houses nowadays that they sometimes have paperwork screw ups and foreclose on the wrong house. Imagine coming home from work to find that the bank had your house cleared out even though you are current on the payments. By the time your lawyer gets things straitened out your stuff is in a landfill and in some cases your house is already auctioned off.

I understand that this is getting so bad that laws are being put in place to make the banks more accountable. In some states the bank must pay you triple the cost of your loss. Tho links below to wrongful foreclosures:

Chris

Bank of America forcloses on wrong house:
http://www.fiercefinance.com/story/bank-america-another-wrongful-foreclosure/2010-03-09


Bank cleans out wrong house while owner on vacation:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jan/02/they-forclosed-wrong-house/

Bank forcloses on Vacation house with no mortgage:
http://activerain.com/blogsview/1495825/bank-tries-to-foreclose-on-wrong-house-must-read
 
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We only do initials, bid work and grass cuts as well. We also do repairs to houses that are worth it to the bank...drywall, roofs, gutters...as im sure you guys do the same.

It's funny, you guys are what, 350'ish miles away, we don't work for the same sub nor for the same national, but we use the same terms. We've been getting slammed with initials, thank god winterize season is over! Well, for the most part at least, we still have a few mortgage companys and loan types that require wint year round. Work per bids has been getting slow, which ***** since that's where the big money is. We just did a big trash out the other week, just me and the other guy I work with. We were approved for 120cy of moldy debris and mixed debris, but we still got it to all fit in a 40CY dumpster. That job paid really well and bonus that we could get the dumpster in the yard so there wasn't a ton of hoofing it back and forth.

I'm glad grass cut season is here, I enjoy cutting grass as long as it isn't blistering out. I'm sick of doing wints! But yeah, we do the same, gutters, drywall, plumbing, general carpentry, electrical, etc. Jack of all, master of few. It amazes me sometimes, we'll get a really nice place, 120-250k house and the bank won't do jack. Then we get a place that the only value is the land value, but then they have us tarping roofs, repairing concrete steps, doing major plumbing work replacing entire stacks, replacing entire boiler systems even! (LOTS of boilers here in Pittsburgh) I swear if these banks could get it together, they might not need guv'ment bail outs.
 
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We have been doing a ton of bidwork. It seems the bank started using other contractors, but is having us redo things because of the hack jobs the other guys did. They wont be in business long needless to say. Ive only had to do 2 wint. since ive only been here a month, but the other two guys are glad they are over minus the occasional one. We did also did a huge trash out last week, and i just bid another +-80 yards.

I love going to a different place everyday and seeing something new. So far i love the job!
 

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Chris,

I agree that some are wrongfully being forclosed. Though it's a bit of a long shot for someone to lose all of their belongings like you have described. A general "initial" is nothing more than changing locks (and if it's pre-sale, it's only one lock on a seconday or rear door) and bidding health hazards (chemicals, paints, etc). Some loan tyoes require the property to be winterized which is just RV antifreeze down the drains, pull the meter and blow out the lines. At most the only thing to get removed on an initial is raw food or infestation risks.

It's funny you bring it up though, the Monday before last we repo'd a home that was in fact a wrongful foreclosure. We *always* try talking to neighbors to see if anyone has been there recently, if they've moved out, etc. I tried both next door neighbors, noone home. Went to the guy across the street, "I've been here for 4 years and I've never seen anyone at that house". Other things are usually key indicators, grass height, electric meter locked off, gas locked off (or the meter is downright gone), water is off, etc. In this case, electric was locked off, water was off and the gas meter was gone.

So, me being the smaller of us two, I climb through an unlocked window and open the door, we do a quick survey. A really nice Toro self propelled mulching mower, an even nicer Craftsman walk behind leaf shredder/vac. The rest is just misc little old household items. It's kind of odd, I check with the neighbors again, no dice.

I start cutting the grass while my partner is doing the lock changes and bids. I'm maybe 3/4 of the way done with the entire lawn when the neighbor shows up.

Him: "Whats going on?"
Me: "Repo'ing the property for the bank"
Him: "Oh really? That's odd"
Me: "How's that?"
Him: "That's my house"

After some discussion, he owns that house as well as the one next door. He bought it when the old lady passed back in 99. He was going to knock it down and put in a big pool or rent it out, hasn't had time for either. For those in our area, National City sold out to PNC Bank and First Niagra last year. He has apparently been fighting with PNC to find out simply nothing more than where to send the payment to now. He showed me his log of phone calls, who he spoke with, etc. He has all of the payments with an escrow company until he can find someone at PNC that can pull their head out of their *** long enough to tell him where to send the payments to now. He said he never got anything from PNC or National City on where to send the payments after the buyout, which I believe as I was with National City and was one of the accounts that got sold to PNC, I never received anything either, including new ATM cards.

We appologized, gave him the national property pres. company's name, he said thanks for cutting his grass! lol
 

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I used to work as assistant to a land surveyor. ******* equipment, cutting line etc. On one job there were two abandoned houses and a big garage. It was kinda creepy/sad inside. The houses were set back in the woods and it was like the people left in a real hurry. There were pictures and stuff still magneted to the fridge, in some of the rooms there were a few furniture articles, some food n cleaners in the cupboards. In the attic there were all kinds of keepsakes and decorations in boxes. In one of the kitchen drawers there was a pair of Craftsman slip join pliers so I took those and everything else was bulldozed. The property is now a mini industrial park. This was around 02. I never found out what happened to the family.
 

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Cool vise! Nice find, cant beat the price! Let me know if you decide to sell it! A buddy of mine did your job for a couple of months before his company went under and they were so strict it wasn't funny. If it wasn't put in the dumpster, you were fired! I guess some guy was let go for putting some loose change from a drawer in his pocket. We went back to the dumpster after hours a few times though!

-Dane
 
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