Above 1200 Sq/FT New Member and a 36 X 46

[blairjw]

Don't worry to much about your neighbor lady. As a land owner you have the right to utilize your property. If your buildings are consistent with general development in the area and properly permitted she does not have much of an argument. In situations like this it is best to take the high road.

Thanks Bib!
I am not concerned... I have a 300ft setback from thier property. Everyone else thinks it's a great addition to the neighborhood. My other neighbor helped stand the back wall up, loves hearing the roosters (and doesn't mind free eggs).

At the end of the day, the permit was fine, the zoning is fine... I've passed all the building inspections the first time.

Blair

 

[Falcon67]

Very good looking building. It does fit in well with the surroundings which really sets it out as a premium build. You and your wife should be very proud of that!

 

[blairjw]

Very good looking building. It does fit in well with the surroundings which really sets it out as a premium build. You and your wife should be very proud of that!

Thanks Falcon!
I was checking out your build today, only got through the first couple of pages during my lunch break, but I hand it to you, knowing what it takes to do it yourself.

Blair

 

[thinkracing]

Loved seeing the MGs. I've owned and raced MGBs. Have you been over to the MG Experience? www.mgexperience.net

Great barn and build.

 

[blairjw]

So now for the electrical, I needed to have the siding on because I was going to send two LBs (elbows) through the back wall into the subpanels. The main service is 200 amps and the subs are 70 amps each. I plan on having a 230 outlet in each bay for a MIG / TIG welder and to run a 5hp compressor. The rest will be used for heating, lighting and hand tools.

If you look was up there the building is essentially 3 areas separated by the columns and girders. I called the truss designer early in the build to ask if I could drill through the columns to pass romex through. The answer was no... the columns and girders are treated like trusses, you cannot penatrate them without the designers permission. On each end of the girder, there is a PSL column holding it up. From memory, the reaction of the girder on the PSL is 28,000lbs with a full snow load (85psf). So by drilling through the PSL, you are reducing the cross section... I probably could have done something, but we didn't need any questions down the road... for quicky math, the PSLs are 5x7 or 35 square inches... their compressive load is 2500 psi... so they can hold 87,000lbs each! But then again 85 psf of snow is about 15 feet tall, and on a steel roof it probably never happen.

So I decided that I would have the one main service panel and two sub-panels... just needed to figure out how to feed them.

One solution would have been to feed each subpanel under the concrete, but I didn't want the sweeps to come out of the floor and into the wall... doesn't matter where you put them, sooner or later they will get in the way or get busted by something heavy and rolling.

The other solution was to trench outside and feed them, so that what I did. From the main service, I went down to an LB, then outside to another LB and went around back.

This LB is joined to the LB on the inside under the main service.

This is the run down the side of the building.

Then up to a JB (junction box) and to the other sub (panel)

Over Thanksgiving weekend, we pulled the feeders to the subs and hooked them all up, so I have power in the other 2 bays of the barn.

In NH you are allowed to do your own electrical work without a liscense. That doesn't exempt you from the NEC, but if you know what your doing and have someone to ask questions of you are all set. The subs are fed with #4 aluminum wire (rated for 75 amps). I would have still needed #4 copper (at 85 amps), so it was cheaper to run aluminum.

Blair

 

[blairjw]

Loved seeing the MGs. I've owned and raced MGBs. Have you been over to the MG Experience? www.mgexperience.net

Great barn and build.

Think -
Of course I stumble through there now and then... also mgcars.org.uk same username.

Blair

PS the TD is blown

 

[blairjw]

Early October, we poured the slab!
Almost a year to the day that we poured the frost walls. One of the few jobs I subbed out... I put off the floor, because we were staining the siding in the building and I didn't want to be dripping stain all over, the concrete. By the time I was ready to pour, it was getting almost freezing at night.

Total pour was 26 yards, here is the first truck, stopping at the driveway to dump the calcium cloride.

First pour almost completed, you can see the 2 sub-panels on the back wall (see my prior post about the electrial install)

Wouldn't have needed a shoot, he could have brought the truck in, if it weren't for the form boards.

And this is me trying to keep the building above freezing... 80,000 BTU burner, going through 20lbs of propane every 5 hours and it was basically going out the ridge vent.

It took about an hour to pour the 26 yards and two guys from the crew stayed back the rest of the day to power trowel it. They got out of there about 6 at night.

 

[PWC Repair]

Your building is awesome. I'm just starting my build but after reading some of your posts I'm glad I don't have all that code ****. I'm outside city limits and there is no county code. I can build whatever I want, however I want thank goodness.

 

[blairjw]

Your building is awesome. I'm just starting my build but after reading some of your posts I'm glad I don't have all that code ****. I'm outside city limits and there is no county code. I can build whatever I want, however I want thank goodness.

PWC -
Thanks! I don't consider building codes a "hassle". The intent of the building code is to make contractors "do the right thing"... Make buildings safe, etc. After all that hard work, I don't want it to collapse in a hurricane.

Blair

 

[PWC Repair]

Very true on that but we all know a lot of that little code **** is just a ridiculous way of putting money in some inspectors pocket.

 

[rmackintosh]

Any updates to this one?

 

[Qcowboy]

Any updates to this one?

Yeah, Mg lovers out there wanna see a shot with all three MGs parked inside at once!

(another 53 TD driver here.)

https://sphotos-b.**.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/255314_3833413287147_1234940727_n.jpg

 

[blairjw]

QCowboy -
Sorry haven't checked the site in a while... here you go.

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[mikey531]

Nice ! Good to see New Hampshire builds.

 

[blairjw]

I haven't updated this in a long time and I thought I would...

January 14th of this year, the barn burned down. Most likely due to the AC cord feeding the block heater of my truck. There was a lot of clean up a lot of lists for the insurance company a lot of heartache... but the good news is there is a structure back on the pad where the other barn used to be.

I'll start by saying I didn't frame this one. I built the last one from scratch board by board and I really didn't have the time to build another one while restoring a few cars to replace the car collection. I hired a friend to do the steel and a general contractor to do the framing and roof. Come spring, I will side it and in the mean time I am installing the electrical (homeowners can do their own in NH). The slab was ok... but I will be pouring another 3" on top in the spring to cover the spalling that occurred. I have spent the last year planning this and locating cars to replace the ones lost.

I am sure everyone on here has said to themselves at one point "If I was going to do it again, I would do it differently... So the good thing out of all this is, I got to do a few things differently. I completely redrew the plans from scratch and replaced those big girders with steel and put a second floor on it and a carport off to the side for the dozer and anything else I would like to keep out of the weather but not take space inside.

So that's the update... this year has presented some obstacles, but has also presented some opportunities that I never imagined. The replacement cars came from Colorado and the trailer to get them came from Georgia, so I have gotten so see parts of the USA that I have never seen before. I traveled 3 days nonstop with my wife to get the trailer in Georgia and traveled 2 days each way with my stepson to goto Colorado and back to get a few cars and get a week of dirt biking together.

So I'll keep the updates coming...

 

[Pluribus]

Sorry to hear about the fire, but it sounds like you're coming out of the ashes with some improvements in functionality. I like that you were able to go clear span by using the steel, since most monitor roof designs have posts or walls inside.

 

[blairjw]

Long time without an update... so here we are... The new building is sided and stained. I stained the backside with one coat and the front with 2 coats of Cabot stain, I think total was about 25 gallons. The price of building materials really stalled me. I stained and sided in the fall of 2019. Over that winter, I didn't do much out there, I was busy with other things, but come spring building materials shot through the roof and I didn't want to buy $15 2x4's to frame out the hand rails for the stairs. I eventually got over it, framed out the railing and finished the building inspection without too much trouble.

Here I am now, I just had the building insulated with foam and I have the sheetrock downstairs finished, I am mudding and painting. I installed my 80k unit heater last weekend.

 

[bugnut]

Great progress. Prices for materials are high but getting done or continuing toward completion are worthy of the cost!

 

[blairjw]

Finished drywall and painting on one bay so far.

The cars are a '50 MG TD that I bought to replace my TD lst was in the fire and a '56 MGA. The engine stand is at the door because I a guy was dropping off a Buick 215cu in V8 for the MGA.