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Ive got 10.5 acres, in the country and Im building a 30x40 metal shop/living quarters for me, my wife, and my 2 year old son. About 100 yards in front of the shop there is a 1 acre fishing pond. The FM road frontage is lined with cedar trees. Here are the plans for the new place (rough)

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Workbench, drive through, fridge and bar, oh and a place to sleep too. What else do you need.
 

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How about loft bedrooms? I think you will end up wanting more work space than what you initially have.

What kind of work do you plan to do in there?
 

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Reminds me of Dan Tanna's digs in "Vegas". You would need to pick up a white Corvette for the full effect.

Not sure where you're posting from, but up here in Michigan you'd be outside of code in too many ways to list.
 
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Why so small ?

Read my name, im an ATV mechanic! haha I can get 2 lifts in that one bay, easily...and like paul harvey, heres the rest of the story, im going to live here about 12 years, once its all paid for, im going to build a house to go with my shop :D !!! So thennnn when the house is built, I move some stuff around, add one more overhead door, convert my bedroom to an office, my sons room to a tool room, keep the bathroom for obvious reasons, and im even going to keep the kitchen, im just going to move some stuff around and have all the room i need, and it will look good, going with a satin black floor. High gloss red cabinets, even in the kitchen. all stainless appliances, just broke ground yesterday, wife is excited, shes so cool....ive got pictures of her riding my old Kawasaki KFX700...she broke the grab bar on the back twice before she got the wheelie down, but after that she was a pro! haha
 

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I'd say for a weekend cabin in the woods you got a nice plan there. But for long term living you need to put a wall up to separate the work space from the living space. Just imagine all the dust, exhaust, fumes, etc. in the same space that you eat and sleep. Adults an tolerate a lot. But for a child, that's not going to be good for his development.

How about this?

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Also, I'm not seeing any room for storage or a furnace.
 
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Ok the rules to make it ok with the ole lady until we get the house built, and the shop becomes a dedicated shop, which im ok with because I have another 30x40, about 1/2 a mile through the pasture, which is all shop, sooo, its like this

The shop area, is more of a pool/poker playing area, maybe a harley parked in there at times :D

and for storage, above the bedrooms and bathroom there will be a loft .

But dont worry, no harsh fumes for little one :)
 
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Oh yea, heat will come from an infared, ventless, mounted from the perling of the roof, i have one of these in my other shop, with less than perfect insulation, and it heats like a champ!
 

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Don't you mean a red '57 T-Bird?? I loved his digs! Theres a hotel there now.

That's right - a red Thunderbird!!!! I just remember him pulling into his living room in a convertible and telling my Dad "that's what my house is going to be like when I grow up...." Vegas must have been on late - I'd get to stay up a few extra minutes until Dan pulled into his bachelor pad, then it was bed time. Don't think I ever saw a full episode.

Thanks for the memory!
 
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I had to youtube dan tanna to see what you guys were talking about, but yea, it will be something like that haha
 

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I understand what you are trying to do, but that just doesn't meet code. Even outside of code requirements I agree with the issues of dust, fumes, and such in an living/eating/sleeping area.
 
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Well, dust, probably going to have dust, considering where i live, oh well, have to deal with it, fumes, a harley just sitting there isnt going to produce that much fumes...just being there time to time
 

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Fuel storage (in vehicles or otherwise) combined with living/sleeping quarters with no firewall between is just an accident waiting to happen. For the safety of your family I'd be considering what you really want to do.
 
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Can you explain an accident waiting to happen? Is it anymore dangerous than natural gas or propane leaking in your home?..and fumes, how much time do you spend in a shop filled with fumes? Ive been hanging out in shops more than likely consumed with fumes since i was old enough to walk and know whats goin on.

Another thing, just fuel for thought, on a fuel injection system, dont they have to be air tight, as to hold the pressure to the injectors, for the next time you start it up? So if it is air tight, how would fumes leak out? Just wondering. I take care of my family and would never put them in harm, so until its done and you can see exactly what we are dealing with, lets hold off on the flaming.
 

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Not flaming - just stating that it doesn't meet code.

R309.1 Opening Protection. Openings from a private garage directly into a room used for sleeping purposes shall not be permitted. Other openings between the garage and residence shall be equipped with solid wood doors not less than 1-3/8 inches (35mm) in thickness, solid or honeycomb core steel doors not less than 1-3/8 inches (35mm) thick, or 20-minute fire-rated doors.
 
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Can you explain an accident waiting to happen? Is it anymore dangerous than natural gas or propane leaking in your home?..and fumes, how much time do you spend in a shop filled with fumes? Ive been hanging out in shops more than likely consumed with fumes since i was old enough to walk and know whats goin on.

Another thing, just fuel for thought, on a fuel injection system, dont they have to be air tight, as to hold the pressure to the injectors, for the next time you start it up? So if it is air tight, how would fumes leak out? Just wondering. I take care of my family and would never put them in harm, so until its done and you can see exactly what we are dealing with, lets hold off on the flaming.

Air tight between the injectors and fuel pump... yes. Air tight around the gas tank/cap.. not necessarily. All gas tanks have to have a vent for venting excess pressure. A vent also allows air to enter the tank to fill the space that fuel occupied as it is used and for filling, so the air has a place to go.

I am not completely up on bike emissions but cars have EVAP (Evaporative emissions systems) to catch evaporating fuel from the fuel tank (hence why you can fail an emissions test from a leaky gas cap). When you get done riding that Harley and the engine is hot and heats the fuel and it slowly releases gasoline vapors. Modern Harleys have an EVAP system I believe. If the bike is more than 10 years old I would bet money on it that it does not have an EVAP system. Here is a short article about EVAP systems from the EPA.

http://www.epa.gov/oms/evap/index.htm

Your idea sounds cool for the garage/house but I think a little more research might be necessary.

And its not that much different than natural gas or propane. But we have to heat our homes so there is a risk there we can not eliminate.. we don't have to park a motorcycle in the living room.
 
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Well, in all honesty even an old bike, or atv...with no leaks, is not going to produce enough fumes to notice....and on the other hand i do not own junk, it stays clean,or i guess eat-off-able is a good term, no leaks, so its not a big issue for me...and i guess if it does bother me it could always go back to my other shop, no big deal. Its not a permanent living space (for my wife anyways)...when the house is built, im sure i will spend most of my time out in the shop.

Another bright side, if i get the boot to the dog house, its a good thing! haha
 
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I've always heard that Texas is considerably more lax on property owner's rights? Do you even have to pull a permit from your township/county to put up a building?

Up here in Michigan, we need to pull a permit for pretty much ANYTHING we do on our property - above ground pools / storage sheds / driving a well. Jealous as heck if you can just build without govt interference. Up here, you can't insure a building not up to code either (all these stupid rules & regulations are one big reason our state is bleeding business and jobs).

Depending on how long your family will be in the building, I'd think about correctly framing the areas where the overhead doors will eventually go with reinforced headers etc, but then insert a false solid wall within the framing and drywall it along with the rest of the interior. When your permanent house is done, you can knock out the 8'x8' false wall and mount your overhead doors in the freshly opened space. Better insulation and more critter proof for the duration of your stay in the temporary set-up.

Good luck to you in your venture - post some pictures as you build. I think we're all more than a little curious.
 
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Well, up until about 4 months ago, if you had the money you could build whatever, whenever, and however you wanted. Now there is a new law that if your building is over$10,000 and you are going to finance it whether it be your bank or your uncle you have to have soil samples drawn, they tell you what kind of slab to pour and how thick, and then once its poured they come inspect it. But, i got around all that legal mumbo-jumbo, i did get a loan to build this shop....but it was simply a loan, a loan for what?...well just because I want to buy a ton of sheet iron, perling, concrete....thats just going to happen to get thrown into the shape of a building haha
 

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Every one b!tches, moans and groans about having to get permits......

But, lets say you are the person wanting to buy a house that has been 'modified' by the owner....who did not pull any permits.....which means, you have no idea if it was done right or not.....are you willing to accept the potential problems....is the wiring the right gauge?....was the plumbing done right?....

Me? Personally....I would not buy a house that was not done to code....not worth the potential problems....

But...I'm sure you will find someone to buy it......but don't expect a high price......
 
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Nope, its not illegal...IF-YOU-HAVE the MONEY you dont have the soil inspection done. Which I HAVE THE MONEY. I did get a loan, a personal loan...sure is nice to have friends with money.

Wiriring, my right hand man, my best friend, is liscensed electrician, he is setting me up with the wiring

Plumbing, my cousin is a liscensed plumber, he is doing the plumbing,

Im expeirenced in swinging a hammer, so im building the rooms...

I dont speak to everybody on this board when I say this but,

WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR PROBLEM?!

Just because you live in some yankee town that has to babysit your rights as an american telling you what you can and what you cant build, F-CK THAT IM A TEXAN, AND IM AN AMERICAN, if you DONT like it, if you have to pick at me personally, GO TO HELL, i know a forum is for opinions but this isnt about me, its about my shop...

THANKS
 

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Just because you live in some yankee town that has to babysit your rights as an american telling you what you can and what you cant build.

Permit and inspections came about because some people lack to common sense to build thing properly.

I know a forum is for opinions but this isnt about me, its about my shop...

I thought this was where you plan on living for the next 12 years?

Im building a 30x40 metal shop/living quarters for me, my wife, and my 2 year old son.
Im going to live here about 12 years, once its all paid for, im going to build a house to go with my shop !!!

If this many people have a problem with what you are doing, don't you think you might be in the wrong here? It's not like we're all out to crush your dreams here. It's just that what you're doing isn't too smart. Just put up one wall, ONE WALL, to separate the living from the shop space. Once you have the house built you can tear down the wall.
 
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Once again, what is the wall going to seperate here? Im not going to build a whole wall, just to seperate my living quarters from ONE motorcycle...think of a motorcycle dealership...do they suffer from harsh fumes on their showroom when bikes sit in there for months?....and i guess the whole common sense thing is just what it is COMMON SENSE....i guess yall dont have common sense where permits are required...

I would REALLLY REALLLY like to hear a comment on the whole difference between a motorcycle dealership and my house...and remember, as opposed to my ONE BIKE...a dealership could have 50 bikes on one showroom...not all have gas in them but a lot do...(i worked at one no smart remarks)...do those people that spend 6 days a week in that showroom get harmed?

and yes i am living there for the next 12 years, thanks bud
 

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I would REALLLY REALLLY like to hear a comment on the whole difference between a motorcycle dealership and my house...

R309.1 Opening Protection. Openings from a private garage directly into a room used for sleeping purposes shall not be permitted.

Not an question of whatever health issues the fumes may have on the occupants but the issues of the speed of a potential fire where people will be sleeping.
 

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Just because you live in some yankee town that has to babysit your rights as an american telling you what you can and what you cant build, F-CK THAT IM A TEXAN, AND IM AN AMERICAN, if you DONT like it, if you have to pick at me personally, GO TO HELL, i know a forum is for opinions but this isnt about me, its about my shop...

Texas adopts the international residential code.
Date: Tuesday, January 1 2002

Governor Rick Perry of Texas signed a bill to adopt the International Residential Code as the municipal residential building code for the state of Texas. The bill went into effect on September 1, 2001, and gave cities until January 1, 2002 to transition and begin enforcing the new code. The bill adopts the International Residential Code for one- and two-family dwellings as it existed on May 1, 2001. It provides municipalities with the authority to adopt local amendments to the code, establish procedures for the administration and enforcement of the code, and review and consider amendments and new editions of the code. This is the first statewide residential building code in Texas. The principles of all the International Codes are based on protection of public health, safety, and welfare. The International Residential Code for one- and two-family dwellings addresses design and construction. The International Codes result in efficient designs that provide flexibility for the code official, designer, engineer, plumber, and architect.

Yep, just a damn plot by the Yankees... Texas doesn't have any codes or permits... :rolleyes:
 

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Sir, posting on here is always an invite for comment and almost without exception the comments from the community are sensible, based on experience and worth careful consideration. Several folks have passed the opinion that sharing workshop space with home living has some risks. I think many more agree with that thought. I'd not be keen on the fumes from fuel and oil but if you think you have that handled then that's your prerogative.

For me having a 2 year old running round living space that is a workshop goes beyond what I'd allow my rug-rats to do have done. You can't watch them 100% of the time and you have no way to create an exclusion zone. Build that wall, please.
 
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Ok, theres not going to be a wall, but at the same time there is nothing thats going to be in this WHOLE building that my son can get into, that i wouldnt let him get into, and that I didnt get into at his age. When i work on a motorcycle at my dedicated SHOP, he is right beside me, either "working" on his powerwheels ATV, his tricycle, holding tools, or putting nuts and bolts in the magnetic tray. Which to me is the best thing the boy could be doing at his age, he is learning. My son knows what tool is which, at 2. So to me, having a toolbox, a workbench and from time to time a motorcycle in the "house" is the ultimate bonding space for us. I would rather have full time access to that area, and still be able to interact with the woman in our life. Ive heated my dedicated SHOP with the same infrared heater for 10 years, with anything from racecars, motorcycles, atv's, lawnmowers, dirtbikes, jetskis, and a paintbooth all in the same shop, sometimes all at once. And no firey explosions. You would have to have a HIGHLY concentrated amount of gas to one location to get a flash.

Im not one of those fathers that sends his son to his room to watch this **** they have on childrens tv shows nowadays. Its ridiculous. My son enjoys the time he spends with a wrench in his hand just like his daddy did at his age.

NO there WONT be harsh fumes in this house

NO there WONT be anything in or around the workbench my son could harm himself with, no more harm than you would find in a house.

I like the idea of the versatility, like during thanksgiving dinner, the whole family can occupy this space, play poker, watch football, have plenty of seating, and nobody is isolated, its all open.

As far as the "codes" and all that BS, im not worried about it, I live on my own land, it will always be my land, it will always be MY building. My slab is being poured wednesday, and I have not had to have a permit, or anything to do this. Im not worried about it one bit, why are you?...Sorry you have to have your permits, sorry i dont have to pay for tests, and permits and whatever. Move to a remote location, out in Texas country and build yourself a skyscraper, nobody will give a DAMN, i promise.

I would like to thank all the HATERS for inspiring me to build something different, if everybody build the same SH!T how boring would it be, im a pioneer and i realize that, if youve never seen it, dont knock it. You will soon see it, and make your judgements then, but until then...your opinions are pointless and blind.

FYI for the ignorant: When you and your wife are both 21, your son is 2, and you have been renting in town since you were 18 years old. That might work for some but I grew up in the country and thats where I want to be. I would just like to throw some numbers out there, times are hard and we are young in age and a young family. Im making my dollar stretch.

A NICE,NICE dwelling, for around $45k
Insurance for a year, between $300-$400, with full coverage, and GREAT coverage at that
Bail hay off the land for tax reasons and to sell the hay
Payments right at $400
Rent was $450
Im all for it...
 

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im a pioneer

i have seen quite a few shops/dwellings so i don't think you are a pioneer. I have yet to see one where a shop/workspace is combined with a living area for the family. I can just hear it now Honey can you clear the carburetor off the table and set it for dinner. Ive known a lot of people that keep bikes in their house but they never worked on them there i guess that is the problem most are seeing. I hope it works for you.
 

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Aside from the code problems.


How about a coat closet?
How about linen closet?
Stinky toilet open to the kitchen? MMMMM tastey. Guess that would go well with the machine oil smell.
 

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Good luck in your quest to stay under the radar and I truly hope you can safely achieve what you are seeking with this *different* project.

I concur with most of the other folks here when I say that it seems like a risky idea to combine sleeping quarters with your garage space.

When I was a teenager, I went to bed after working on my VW in the family garage. During the night, a fuel line failed and spilled a couple of gallons of gasoline onto the garage floor. Because of a leaky seal on the garage access door into the house, everyone woke up in the middle of the night to the scent of strong gasoline fumes. There is a reason for the codes. I didn't mean to nearly suffocate or burn my family, but as they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

And as far as codes being BS...take a look at these: Home Inspection Nightmares

I find them horrifying, but to the person/persons that did the stuff in the pictures, it was probably business as usual.
 

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My 2 cents,
I believe that codes are written without the knowledge of personal integrity of the owner involved. It is written so you, your family or the next family that could potentially purchase the property will be reasonably safe while in the home. There are a lot of stupid people out there and some are lucky and others would kill themselves on a daily basis if they could. The code is written to protect all. The code defines and separates Garage and Living space because Living Space is where you sleep and you may not see or smell a potential leak or disaster with an automobile. Most household furnaces are UL Rated and fail to a safe mode. Your car or Motorcycle or ATV don’t necessarily fail to a safe mode. Vehicles have also changed over the years and become much safer than they were yesteryear. The code doesn’t know which car is in the garage. You may be the safest parent in the world and do everything that is right with your child, but you will never get the county or city in the state you live in to understand a wave the requirement of the code. The code is set to protect us from ourselves and the local and county government doesn’t want the liability of having the unknown automobile in a house owned and lived in by an unknown person in the same space. One way that they keep people from killing themselves is by establishing a fire-wall between where one sleeps and where one parks their car. The difference may only be an external rated door and a thicker drywall.
 

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I'm sorry that at 21 you aren't willing to accept advice from those that may have a bit more worldly experience than you do and have to resort to profanity and name calling to everyone that doesn't see the world exactly as you do.

As has been pointed out - accidents happen. Although codes cannot protect people from each and every unique circumstance, they seek to reasonably limit risks based upon years of experience as to what those risks may be. Unfortunately, I'm old enough that I've seen too many friends, family, and other acquaintances hurt and killed by stupid things that just happened. Nice to believe that you are different from all those others, but often Fate has a different view of things.

Good luck with your project.
 

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When I was first married (1986) I read my wife an article by Peter Egan in the current issue of R&T, in which he described his ideal house. Basically a large workshop with living quarters attached. My wife remembers the article well enough to quote from it "Yes I suppose you need to have a bed and bathroom, and someplace to heat food..."

Having co-habitated for 20-odd years without any kind of garage at all, the joke has gotten a little thin. But this guy obviously took the advice to heart. So a tip of the hat to his brash vision, even if he does turn out to be rather thin-skinned and a potty-mouth to boot.
 
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Good luck in your quest to stay under the radar and I truly hope you can safely achieve what you are seeking with this *different* project.

I concur with most of the other folks here when I say that it seems like a risky idea to combine sleeping quarters with your garage space.

When I was a teenager, I went to bed after working on my VW in the family garage. During the night, a fuel line failed and spilled a couple of gallons of gasoline onto the garage floor. Because of a leaky seal on the garage access door into the house, everyone woke up in the middle of the night to the scent of strong gasoline fumes. There is a reason for the codes. I didn't mean to nearly suffocate or burn my family, but as they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

And as far as codes being BS...take a look at these: Home Inspection Nightmares

I find them horrifying, but to the person/persons that did the stuff in the pictures, it was probably business as usual.

Those examples are just ignorance, dont waste my time with that "SH!T" (thats for you PAToyota)

raffaelli,
Coat closet?...i own ONE jacket, i live in texas smartass, and the bathroom has a door?...and a spot for linens right next to the tub?...right across from the toilet...?

BigK-if im not a pioneer then why is everybody making a big deal?....

AND LIKE I SAID, THERE WONT BE ANY HARMFUL CHEMICALS IN THIS HOUSE, NO MORE HARMFUL THAN YOUR HOUSEHOLD ITEMS....and nobody has commented on the motorcycle showroom really...id like to hear some comments on that yankees...
 
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ersatzs2, thank you sir, and i only talk like a sailor when people want to judge and run their mouth when they have seen only part of the picture, and have never expierenced what im doing anyways? Ya know? So yea I am thin skinned when it comes to people questioning me! But I thank you kindly!
 

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atvmech, I don't care what you build.

But, if I could offer a bit of advice having already raised my child & from watching my daughter raising her 2-year old son: 1 bathroom won't be sufficient for the wife, you & the boy...especially as he grows. You stated you'd probably be there 12 years. Figure forever just for the heck of it.

Will your wife stand for a 17 year-old sharing her bathroom? Already my 2 year-old grandson has his own bathroom. He likes to play in his bath at night - sometimes for an hour. He's got his little potty chair there and all his bath items (read: toys). Nope, I think your wife might like (read: deserve) her own bathroom that she only has to share with you.

When I started building my house back in 1993, I also didn't have to pull permits in my county here in Alabama...but I did have to follow the Southern Building Codes to get the power turned on (utilities folks checked on me twice during construction). I did all my work myself and got my final inspections so power to the house could be turned on & it be legal to live in. Nobody had any problem with me pulling my own wires, doing my own plumbing, etc. but they did check several areas before they turned on my electricity.

You've gotta also think what your insurance company is going to require so they can cover it against tornadoes, fire, etc.

A friend way back when I was beginning construction told me that in a few years permits would be required in my county along with a hefty permit purchase cost. So, my lawyer explained that if construction was never finished & permits were required in the future, I'd be grandfathered. I left 1 wall in my closet open to the 2x4's....its still open...I've added onto the house once & am in the process of completing my 4,000 square foot garage (which grows by about 500 feet in the Spring)....every time an inspector stops by, I show him where my construction started & has never stopped or been completed since 1993....I've got my move-in approval inspection and a dated photo of that unfinished wall and a list of materials I've used since then...along with a huge book of photos that follow my construction....each time the inspectors see me doing something new and stop by to ask about permits, I show them my evidence &, while they don't like it, they don't bother me.

You might want to find out about inspection programs in your county. You may have a problem getting a electric meter set & move-in certificate if you've missed something.

Just my thoughts.

Oh, here's a photo of what I found in my garage when I walked into my office area to answer the phone:

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ME: "Will, what are you doing?"

WILL: "I fix it, T." ( All his aunts/uncles/and cousins along with my wife & daughter call me 'Uncle T' or just 'T'; he's picked it up.)

ME: "What have you got in your hand?"

WILL: "Wrench."

ME: "Where did you get it?"

WILL, pointing: "T's tool box."

Never think he won't get into anything that's not locked down!
 
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