New Mid-torque vs old High-torque cordless impact

[General Geoff]

Seems technology really does progress. Got this Makita xwt17z yesterday to supplement my old Ingersoll-Rand W7150, since the big IR gun doesn't fit in a lot of places I need it to. The teal tool is nearly 3" shorter. Despite the lower overall torque rating (520 ft lbs vs 780 for the IR), I ran a little unscientific test by driving several 3/8 x 6" lag screws into a recently-felled tree stump and they both reliably snapped the screws in half at right around 15 seconds of ugga-duggas. I've heard Makita impacts in general are a bit stronger in reverse than forward so I'll bring them both to the junkyard next time I'm there and use em both on old seized-on wheel nuts and maybe axle nuts, see how they compare.



Kind of an apples to oranges thing I know. Just thought it was interesting to see how battery/cordless impact technology has progressed over the past decade.

I'll report back after my next junkyard trip.

 

[mike93lx]

Modern impacts are very impressive. You should check out the @Torque Test Channel YouTube page for comparisons.

If you want to be amazed, look at how powerful and small the dewalt dcf923 is.

 

[General Geoff]

I did watch some of their youtube tests before deciding on the xwt17z, actually. Dewalt and Milwaukee make good stuff but I didn't want to delve into yet another battery and charger ecosystem. I may still get an IR W7152 in the future to fully replace the old W7150, if I continue to encounter bolts that won't budge with either of my existing guns.

The new teal tool was more a tight-clearance solver than an insufficient power resolver. If it ends up being roughly equal to the old IR's rust busting power, that's just a bonus

 

[engineer2]

I have the XWT08 and it's a beast. I have to be careful not to break stuff.

 

[Snapped-off]

I've got the 3/8 sub compact, 1/2 mid torque, and 1/2 high torque. They're pretty nice! Makita doesn't have a big following here.

 

[General Geoff]

I actually have the 3/8 subcompact on order along with a full set of tekton 3/8" deep wall impact sockets to go with it, should be good

 

[engineer2]

Makita doesn't have a big following here.

Maktia's 3 biggest markets (in order) are Europe, Japan and USA.
Not a lot of posts on the Makita addiction thread because of that and also because their tools simply get the job done without much trouble.
But Still:

Company sales 2019-ish, Major cordless brands in bold	Hand/Power Tools	Global Market Share
Stanley Black & Decker Inc. (SBD, DeWalt, Craftsman brand, Mac, Porter-Cable, Bostitch)	$7.14 Billion	14.0%
Robert Bosch	$6.2 Billion	12.2%
Fortive Corp. (Fluke, Danaher, several industrial companies)	$6.0 Billion	11.8%
Techtronic Industries Company Limited (TTi) Milwaukee, AEG, Ryobi, Homelite	$5.04 Billion	9.88%
Hilti Corp.	$4.3 Billion	8.43%
Illinois Tool Works Inc. (Hobart, Miller Electric, Paslode)	$3.6 Billion	7.06%
Makita Corp.	$3.5 Billion	6.86%
Snap-on Inc.	$3.4 Billion	6.67%
Emerson Electric Co. (Greenlee, Textron, Ridgid partners with TTi)	$1.9 Billion	3.73%
Apex Tool Group, LLC. ( Gearwrench, Crescent)	$1.5 Billion	2.94%
Hitachi Koki Co., Ltd.	$1.2 Billion	2.35%
Chervon Holdings Ltd. tool Co. in China (Ego, Flex, Skil, Kobalt)	$630 Million	1.24%
Textron Inc. >> (sold to Emerson in 2018)	$600 Million	1.18%
TTS Tooltechnic Systems (Festool)	$400 Million	0.78%
Ideal Industries, Inc.	$360 Million	0.71%
Positec Tool Corp. (Rockwell, Worx)	$300 Million	0.59%
JPW Industries, Inc. (Jet, Wilton, Powermatic, Baileigh)	$150 Million	0.29%
Ingersoll Rand Inc.	$112 Million	0.22%
Others: Home Depot Husky made by several above), Lowe's, Harbor Freight, and sub $100 million sales)	$4.67 Billion	9.2%
TOTAL	$51 Billion	100%