New Pole Barn Construction is this normal (pics attached)?

[THETANK]

I am in the process of having a pole barn constructed. As I was looking over some of the work, I noticed some of the metal had nicks/chips. I have attached some pictures. Is this normal in the course of construction with these materials ?

The close ups were taken about 1 foot away and the wider shots were taken about 3 feet away

 

[Sumboodie]

From a worker not given a **** mostly

 

[jack stand]

Either he was trying to hide the screw or didn't have enough width for his backup framing. Some are from tool damage (starting the screw).
Down low where it counts, I'll make a hole with a nail set first.
Probably not worth getting too excited about. Point it out to the boss and see what he says. If it's by a door and will drive you crazy forever, get him to fix that area.

 

[The Cobbler]

Agree on talking to the boss. at least he'll be on notice that he can't pass **** on to you. He may offer to fix it for you . let the conversation begin

 

[CombatNinja]

Pretty standard for some dude the boss is paying $15/hr under the table. In my experience, conversations about fit/finish and workmanship are best had before work begins. That way, when you have **** like this, it is pretty much clear to both parties what is about to happen.

 

[mikedodge]

**** happens but they should have touched it up.

 

[Kevkx125]

Sloppy work, needs to be pointed out for sure.

 

[rayra]

Normal, unfortunately. You can try to get the contractor to touch it up, but you probably won't like those results much better. I'd get the color info from the contractor and touch it up myself.
A couple of those screws were not driven enough, their rubber seals aren't in contact with the sheet metal. On the vertical siding, not a big deal. But if the roof panels had the same lack of attention to detail, you will have leaks when it rains.

 

[Zeke]

That the worst window installation I have ever seen. This comes from a guy who owned a window sales and installation company for 25 years. However, I was never called to install a window on metal siding. I would have walked away if that was on the plans.

 

[THETANK]

That the worst window installation I have ever seen. This comes from a guy who owned a window sales and installation company for 25 years. However, I was never called to install a window on metal siding. I would have walked away if that was on the plans.

Can you elaborate on the problems with the window install? Are you referring to cosmetic issues or issues you may notice potentially effecting performance? ...Thanks

 

[egdede]

How is it flashed, especially at the top?

 

[THETANK]

How is it flashed, especially at the top?

It looks like a u at the top the edges extend about an inch past the edges of the window. It has been windy and rainy for the last several days and the inside sills are dry.

 

[jack stand]

First of all, it's a pole building, I think the guy did a nice job with the J channel. Notice how he ran the top J long and slotted the metal. Generally there's no comparison between a ''pole building" with an agricultural metal panel exterior and residential home construction. Anyone with those expectations without a prior discussion with your contractor will be disappointed. I think the OP here has a legitimate beef with the scratches and little dings but only to a point, it's just unfortunate that this particular guy either didn't realize, or know any better and I'd bet the boss/owner won't be happy with this either.

 

[jpaw]

Honestly with prefinished metal **** happens unfortunately. And will throughout the years.
I would bring it to the contractor's attention. The last picture would kind of bother me. I would just ask for touch-up paint and take care of it myself.

 

[DPG]

Kinda like buying a new car that has door dings in it. As others mentioned - start the conversation.

 

[THETANK]

Good News... Sent the contractor the pictures and he agrees that those areas need to be fixed and he will take care of the necessary repairs.

 

[Poolshark314]

Good News... Sent the contractor the pictures and he agrees that those areas need to be fixed and he will take care of the necessary repairs.

Glad they are helping you. I have several small creases in the ribs of the siding that you can tell happened when they were all stacked and I'm getting no response

 

[joey1320]

Glad the contractor is stepping up.

 

[ycgoat]

The concern would be corrosion, and certainly should be part of the punch list to be fixed before payment

 

[Zeke]

My opinion of the window was an un-needed comment. But since I said what I said, the reason was it looks like it was simply place over an opening with no attempt to 'flush' it in to the siding. Looks like how you would hang a picture frame. I'd much rather see it installed from the inside.

 

[Maxcustody]

Good News... Sent the contractor the pictures and he agrees that those areas need to be fixed and he will take care of the necessary repairs.

Good to hear! Before reading this, I was going to say depends on your crew doing the installation. As others have stated if they take no pride in their job that is what you can expect. However I say no it is not acceptable. My company did an outstanding job and attention to detail was great Any issues they took care of immediately if they could and even made several trips back to my house to ensure I was completely satisfied.

 

[Sumboodie]

That the worst window installation I have ever seen. This comes from a guy who owned a window sales and installation company for 25 years. However, I was never called to install a window on metal siding. I would have walked away if that was on the plans.

You'd never put a window in on a building with metal siding? That's strange!

 

[Toolfool]

My opinion of the window was an un-needed comment. But since I said what I said, the reason was it looks like it was simply place over an opening with no attempt to 'flush' it in to the siding. Looks like how you would hang a picture frame. I'd much rather see it installed from the inside.

Zeke, it's kinda the nature of the beast. I learned this on my metal building build. The J-channel acts as the 'framed opening', which is 'flushed out' to the highest ribs (only option with corrugated metal) and as the flashing. . The window unit is set inside the J-channel opening. The windows are specific for metal buildings. I didn't like it, but don't see a better way to install windows in corrugated metal siding without introducing some other type of material to create a frame and flashing.
Fortunately, I had requested only 'framed openings' for my doors, and I purchased and installed them myself.

 

[Shadowdog500]

Ive never seen windows look like that, and I just did an image search for pole barn windows and found nothing that looked like yours.

Here is what the main window in my Morton building looks like. (These photos reminded me that it is time to do my spring cleaning, I wash the building every spring with dawn dish soap.)













Here is a Timelapse of my building going up. The windows were installed before the insulation and siding at a little after the two minute mark.

 

[Toolfool]

Ive never seen windows look like that, and I just did an image search for pole barn windows and found nothing that looked like yours.

Here is what the main window in my Morton building looks like. (These photos reminded me that it is time to do my spring cleaning, I wash the building every spring with dawn dish soap.)













Here is a Timelapse of my building going up. The windows were installed before the insulation and siding at a little after the two minute mark.

Yours are pretty much the same as the OP, window set inside of J-trim. No head flashing. Your shutters hide the gap on the sides.

 

[Shadowdog500]

Yours are pretty much the same as the OP, window set inside of J-trim. No head flashing. Your shutters hide the gap on the sides.

Not exactly. Both have the J-trim set to the same level, but his window extends a lot further out like the window was installed after the siding was installed. My windows, and other I’ve seen, have the windows installed before the siding and the window does not protrude much past the j-trim.

 

[THETANK]

I saw some of the windows installed and I know they were installed before the siding. Maybe it is just the window itself.