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wantacoe

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My wires going to the old building used to be about 15' above ground, now they are about 10'.Anyone ever replace a pole? Thinking of going under ground but it would cross the wiring for my well. It is already underground from the road to my pole.
 

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Do you own this pole or does the utility? I ask because it has the meter on it. Pole might be fine it but it definitely needs to have a guy to keep it from leaning if the wire span is very long...
 
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Do you own this pole or does the utility? I ask because it has the meter on it. Pole might be fine it but it definitely needs to have a guy to keep it from leaning if the wire span is very long...

I am not sure who owns it. I thought since it is on my property it is my responsibility . I will call con ed and see what they say.
 

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Utility owns the lines up to the meter. The phone company buried my lines from the road to the house because snow sliding off the garage roof created a hazard every winter when it took the sagging lines down, and there wasn’t enough room to raise the lines and maintain adequate separation.

Burying the power lines will cost real money if there’s no hazard, but they may do some cost sharing in your case, as the pole is substandard.
 

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Meter looks like it's on the pole so the overhead going to the buildings is his and any replacement or work would be 100% his responsibility.

The pole may or may not be his responsibility depending on who owns it. That depends on the utility, some utility's around here that used to maintain the meter pole have "gifted" it to the customer so that the customer must replace it at his own expense.

OP is going in the right direction by contacting his utility and finding out who's responsible for the pole.
 
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I bet it belongs to the power company, it has a transformer on it.

My thoughts too.

My local POCO will not put any of their equipment on a customer owned pole.
Except for obviously attaching their overhead wire to the customer provided point of attachment to feed the service and plugging in a meter to the customer provided base.

OP- Call them and ask. It doesn't cost anything and they won't punch you in the nose for asking.
 
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If it was a "Meter Pole", then it could go either way but as pointed out there is a transformer which automatically makes it a "Utility Owned Pole". Should have Utility Marker Numbers on it also?
 

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I bet it belongs to the power company, it has a transformer on it.

My thoughts too.

My local POCO will not put any of their equipment on a customer owned pole.
Except for obviously attaching their overhead wire to the customer provided point of attachment to feed the service and plugging in a meter to the customer provided base.

OP- Call them and ask. It doesn't cost anything and they won't punch you in the nose for asking.

If it was a "Meter Pole", then it could go either way but as pointed out there is a transformer which automatically makes it a "Utility Owned Pole". Should have Utility Marker Numbers on it also?

Maybe Im mistaken but i dont see a transformer on the pole. I see a square box with the secondary lines running between it and the pole. Ive never seen a square pole-mounted transformer either...

I dont see any high voltage lines, insulators on high side bushings, etc...

To me it looks like a bird house....
 
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I am not sure what they are calling a transformer? There is a big rectangular switch which I think used to run 3 phase for a grain bin. And although it was not intended to be a bird house it is full of bird nest! There is something on top of pole, not sure what that is either. Definitely not an electrician.
 

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I am not sure what they are calling a transformer? There is a big rectangular switch which I think used to run 3 phase for a grain bin. And although it was not intended to be a bird house it is full of bird nest! There is something on top of pole, not sure what that is either. Definitely not an electrician.

yeah looks like you have quadruplex(4wire service drop), which would be for 3-phase service.

If that is a utility switch, then it may definitely be utility owned...
 
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It's a pole top switch... Generally has on-off-aux with no circuit breakers or fuses. Very common for a main shut off for a farm or acreage. They are all customer owned around here but I suppose that could vary.
 
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OK, finally stopped raining long enough to get a couple more pics. I still have not called the power company, going to try tomorrow.
 

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Clevis is broke off the pole, visible in the second picture. Your wires are only hanging by the electrical connectors. Get that fixed and your wires will be a lot higher.
 
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Clevis is broke off the pole, visible in the second picture. Your wires are only hanging by the electrical connectors. Get that fixed and your wires will be a lot higher.

Cool, I didn't think the pole was leaning over any more than it was. Thanks.
 

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When you get it get fixed try to get a clevis that has a bolt that goes through the pole rather than the screw in lag type. They hold up much better.
 
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Willing to bet that its your responsibility and not the POCO's. The set up you have is for a tractor driven generator to be hooked up and serve the buildings. Thats a common set up on older farms in my area. With all the equipment and connections on it, I would contact a certified electrician. Many can set a new pole and redo all connections with it still live, or at worst, pull the meter to kill power. Your also talking inspections as well.
 

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On my little suburban lot I actually have 3 POCO owned poles. This sub was built in the early 1950s. One pole broke in high wind. That caused a second one to start leaning. It kept leaning more (no place to put a guy wire) until about 5-7 years later when they decide to replace it. The third one was rotting near the base and also got replaced.
 
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