New shop, old question?

[Mamzerook]

Hi guys,
I am building a shop/shed in the back yard, I am restricted to 16'4" tall, and 864sq'. My plan is a 12' wall with scissor or coffered truss to get clearance for a 16x12 door. I would love some opinions pro and con on the dimensions. would a 24x36 or 28x30 building be better? The shop will mostly be a storage/workshop. The quads and dirtbikes, a 17' boat, and somewhere to sip pops and vacuum my crewcab longbox or the wifes camry. This isnt a parking garage.

Any input is welcome. Thanks!

 

[caper150]

If your planning on putting a crewcab longbox in it I would make it 28X30, 24X36 is a little tight. unless your doors are on the 24' side.

 

[Mamzerook]

Sorry yes, doors on the gable end, 24'. I have a 25x55 shop for the log truck, this one is more-so the mancave.

 

[NUTTSGT]

I don't believe you're going to get a 12' door on a 12' wall. You're going to room for the header above the door.

 

[dbabicky]

If 682 SQ/FT is your max, you are well over that with your dimensions listed. I'm guessing you have to build at least a 682 sq/ft building.

 

[theoldwizard1]

I don't believe you're going to get a 12' door on a 12' wall. You're going to room for the header above the door.

Agree. I don't know how to frame that either. With a 16' door opening, you will probably have to use a GluLam, but it still can not be above the top plate.

 

[CNGsaves]

I don't believe you're going to get a 12' door on a 12' wall. You're going to room for the header above the door.

Wouldn't it depend on the materials used?? Couldn't he install a steel I-beam as the header for garage door and just "skin" it with wood?

He could embed metal poles on each end of the I-Beam (ie within the walls) to hold up the I-Beam.

 

[theoldwizard1]

I just asked an (unlicensed) carpenter friend about this.

Assuming

1. you are installing the door on a gable end
2. you are using roof trusses

Then the gable wall's only load is itself. The top plate needs to be continuous from side to side, but no header is required for the door. Just a nailer plate to attach the brackets.

Yes, scissors or coffered trusses must be used to allow clearance for the door when it is up.

 

[Mamzerook]

My mistake, square footage is 864, 24x30. I was wondering if longer would be better or wider. My carpenter said the gable end bottom chord could be reinforced to attach the door roller, and the clearance inside would come from the vaulted eng. trusses. I would only vault the first seven trusses to get enough room for the door.
Any thoughts or considerations would be welcome, I haven't put shovel to dirt yet, and hope to have thought of as many possible options or opinions as I can.

Thanks

 

[Mamzerook]

I want the 12' door to fit the 10'8" tall travel trailer in the winter. If the door doesnt work out then a 10' door will do.

 

[bjmac]

OP said 864sf

 

[Mamzerook]

OP said 864sf

I am the OP, and I edited the original post.