RedneckWelder
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Start your engines, gentlemen! Let the bitching commence on the price and how you can get 20 HF 44s instead...
New SK toolboxes
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Start your engines, gentlemen! Let the bitching commence on the price and how you can get 20 HF 44s instead...
deanlutz
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Lol I'm out at that price point.
I didn't want to be the one to say it...but...yeah.
About the same as a Snap-On KRL? Good luck. Especially considering no one pays anywhere near list for KRLs and Epiqs.
MilwaukeeFish
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LOL! How true. I'm sure someone will say that.
I'm more apt to go the route of saying that: for that kind of money one is in truck box territory or really close to it. Which, if I was going to spend that kind of cash (no dog in that fight right now): unless I needed the weight savings of the aluminum construction, I wouldn't even give these a second look.
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thegroundpounder99
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Yeah the list prices I ignore, we'll see what the actual number is when they start selling. Anybody ever a see a S&K truck lately? Our dealer went AWOL years ago.
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fras_auto
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nice profile pic.....you have some carlyle tools??
Well its going to depend on how healthy the mark-up is for the dealers. Even at 50% of that though its going to keep many people away which means low volume which also means mark-up probably wont be that great.
Im sure the boxes will be nice but this is primarily going to be for SK dealers catering to professionals. The home guys who bought their $150 socket sets aren't going to touch a $3000-$5000 tool box.
The above highlighted could be said for any toolbox brand, the great thing about today's market is those consumers have options also.
Yea but I think most in our community would consider SK the good budget USA option. Those box prices are much more in-line with the truck brands, in other words priced well outside of their normal customer bases spending habbits. All im saying.
I see what your saying, but as I mentioned earlier, Sk doesn't sell anything at list, those $150 dollar socket sets list at nearly $400 bucks (3/8 for reference). Will the Sk toolboxes be a big seller outside of a truck retailer with some Credit options? Probably Not, then again I don't see SK or GW being able to compete with bigger truck dealers, it's a tough market as you know. I just don't see people willing to put a weekly payment towards those brands versus the big boys, mainly because they can be found so damn cheap via Internet marketplaces. I won't buy one sight unseen, but I am intrigued by the drawer depths, Anyone can make a 18" deep toolbox, when you step into the deeper drawers you need to have some skills.
Bullitt427
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Geez... I was interested. $7000+ for a 48" box? Even at 50% off list it isn't worth it.
Not sure what SK is thinking. I'm not alone in thinking SK quality is way up there, but the tool prices are very friendly for the pro-hobbyist to everyday professional without paying Snap-On prices.
Those boxes are Snap-On prices times 2 and not the usual divided by 2.
Josh
Not sure what SK is thinking. I'm not alone in thinking SK quality is way up there, but the tool prices are very friendly for the pro-hobbyist to everyday professional without paying Snap-On prices.
Those boxes are Snap-On prices times 2 and not the usual divided by 2.
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Just remember these have similar specs to a Snap On Epiq in terms of strength....
They may be up there with Epiqs and worth every penny to the kind of people who would also be considering an Epiq, but like some others here it just wasn't quite what I was expecting from SK. I was hoping for something oriented more towards much lower budgets for home users like many of their other products. Good quality, USA made, but affordable even for non-professionals is what SK seems to be all about with their other offerings.
That said, these are still very nice-looking and exciting toolboxes, and I have not yet dismissed the possibilities of the actual prices being much lower or maybe some other lower-priced toolbox offerings from SK showing up later on.
Yep, though they only sell American made tools that aren't Snap-On/Matco/MAC.
Edit: when he comes in on Thursday, I'll ask him about these specifically.
espyking83
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Lol those prices they can keep that ****
GSMotorrad
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If resale-value is to be taken into consideration when determining what it's worth to you, Snap-On would likely hold their value much better. Most people don't plan on reselling their tool-storage, but you never know. Craigslist is full of used boxes.
Jim Diesel
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Come on, just post the pic. As if anyone reads this forum
Also just saw that price list
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jsackin
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Here's what we would have to get out of those boxes:
http://www.harryepstein.com/index.php/catalogsearch/result/?q=sk+tool+aluminum+box
http://www.harryepstein.com/index.php/catalogsearch/result/?q=sk+tool+aluminum+box
toddoky
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The 30" depth of the larger boxes is nice, but there are far too few drawers for my liking. A box of those dimensions needs to have at least 15 drawers (a minimum of four 2" deep drawers) to be effective the way I organize tools.
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dutchgray
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Epstein's real prices are already more reasonable. They were never going to be cheap with those specs, USA made, aluminum construction and no doubt relatively limited production numbers.
The only way SK could do a $1000 box would be to buy a standard production cheap box spray it green and slap some stickers on, even then it wouldn't be a very good box if they stick to their USA made policy and most at that price level would still buy the good Asian made boxes for less money.
The only way SK could do a $1000 box would be to buy a standard production cheap box spray it green and slap some stickers on, even then it wouldn't be a very good box if they stick to their USA made policy and most at that price level would still buy the good Asian made boxes for less money.
RedneckWelder
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This so much.
Everybody wants Snap on quality for Harbor Freight prices. You simply aren't going to come anywhere near the price point of China boxes when it comes to making a quality US made box, especially making one that's going to be worth a damn.
TheMadMech
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At least for me, I'd rather spend on tools than tool storage. Once I've got my quality tools in hand then I'll focus on a box. For those prices however, I'd rather go with Snap-On or Matco. They are nice and probably worth the money but I don't need that sort of mobility.
I know your comment wasn't aimed at anyone in particular but your comment helped me phrase what I was thinking.
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I personally just want something in the middle. Decent quality, made in USA, for more like two or three times Harbor Freight prices rather than ten times the price like Snap-on. Basically something like what mid-range Craftsman or other similar USA-made toolboxes back in the day used to be. An HF44 would probably be sufficient quality for me, but I want to buy USA-made rather than China, and I'm willing to pay a few times more, just not 10x the price like a new Snap-on box the same size as an HF44 would cost.
There are tons of options in the "mid-range" toolbox market if you are willing to buy made in China, but almost nothing when it comes to USA-made. It seems like Waterloo still makes some models at least mostly in the US, but they don't seem to get much attention or praise here. I wish I could find more info and reviews on them. Last I was in a Sears all the Craftsman boxes on display seemed pretty flimsy, but they may have been Mexico-made Waterloos. I'll have to go take another look one of these days and see if they have any USA-made Waterloo rebrands.
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I like em. Definitely a good price over an Epiq, but need bigger ones (72") and more drawers!
USA waterloo in that price range is pretty pitiful in terms of strength and durability. Pretty sure the days of cheap, quality USA made boxes are far gone.
USA waterloo in that price range is pretty pitiful in terms of strength and durability. Pretty sure the days of cheap, quality USA made boxes are far gone.
Yeah, that's what I've heard for the most part. It's quite a shame if they're really that bad. I'd still like to get to a Sears again and see what they have nowadays.
Bigblue&Goldie
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I don't know that SK's street price on these boxes is out of line considering they are constructed of aluminum in the USA, but I feel they've priced themselves into the "premium" box segment instead of the price point their tools fit in. Honestly, I don't know that I see the benefits of an aluminum box for shop use as 95% of tool boxes hardly ever move from their spot. Maybe aircraft or maintenance mechanics will find the lighter weight an advantage for moving around the hanger/shop? These boxes are really catered towards a small minority of tool users; I'm surprised they didn't come out with something that appeals more to the masses.
fatfillup
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Jori, thanks for posting what you have gotten from SK. Those boxes will be a hard sell at those prices except for those who need the weight savings.
This.
The drawer layout is less than ideal for most mechanics, the lack of easy financing, no customization, and the face-to-face service of a driver are as big of drawbacks as the price. When Snap On promos boxes, typically a few times a year, a comparable KRL is cheaper, and an Epiq is not much more. If there's a shipping charge on these, the Epiq is likely to cost less.
I really like what SK is trying to do, but again I think they missed the mark. When you're talking about a toolbox that probably weighs 1500-2000+lbs loaded, the weight difference between steel and aluminum is inconsequential.
Build a quality steel box in the USA that HJE can sell for half of what these boxes cost, offer some different drawer layout options and colors, and success will be much more likely.
Way out of my league
thegroundpounder99
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Mine too.....I was hoping to see a much lower then list price. It just seems a little odd to me that they are rolling out premium boxes when they don't seem to have a good grip on the revival of the hand tools yet.
jsackin
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I figured as much. Don't know too much about boxes like these. We used to carry Kennedy many years ago, but it's been awhile.
Fedwrench
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Hey, did SK send you guys any literature on any other new products?
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for sharing
Loscaldazar
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Hey, did SK send you guys any literature on any other new products?
Thanks for sharing
Was the flier posted the same as the one you got?
jsackin
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Yeah, the flier I posted was the only literature they sent me. No other new products were mentioned.