Its an option but very skeptical.
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New Slab Pour - Gonna request a Tear Out
- Thread starter Lunker
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nolimits76
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My experience tells me it’s a good thing your concrete sub has seen and admitted there is a problem. Even better you are talking repairs. This provides a little hope his first reaction isn’t to leave you holding the bag.
I think at this point I’d try to reason with him. Explain you are unhappy with the quality and you aren’t confident in the repairs. And that your concern for him and you both is the repairs may cost as much, if not more, time and money and that neither of you want that. Also if repairs are done, part of that cost would be having a structural engineer render an opinion on the type and extent of repairs and that additional formal inspections, testing and final opinion would be also be needed. This would protect both you from a potential future claim from the future homeowner.
My guess is he will be more worried about equipment and material costs than labor. I’m sure those things outweigh his profit margin on the job which forces him to dig into his own pocket. While I don’t love this solution one idea might be to have him do any other slabs on your other job sites for a reduced cost to help offset this failed one —assuming he is working elsewhere for you.
We had to do something similar with a sub we hired to do some select bridge removals. They got a little carried away and damaged some beams that we had to replace. Good contractor that had limited resources and scared out of his mind how he was going to overcome this as they just started their own operations a few months before this incident. While I didn’t initially like the solution it turned out to be a good move. We made a valuable friendship that has repaid itself many times over on several different projects. Eventually enough favors were returned to justify the hefty expense of the beams. It just took awhile but we still have that relationship that formed as a result.
I also have a few where it didn’t go so well but honestly you aren’t always going to win. You try to do your best and manage the risk as reasonable as possible. The big takeaway is “being right” doesn’t equate to a favorable outcome. Working together to find a win-win and not putting your subs into a no-win scenario will serve you well. At least it has for us.
I think at this point I’d try to reason with him. Explain you are unhappy with the quality and you aren’t confident in the repairs. And that your concern for him and you both is the repairs may cost as much, if not more, time and money and that neither of you want that. Also if repairs are done, part of that cost would be having a structural engineer render an opinion on the type and extent of repairs and that additional formal inspections, testing and final opinion would be also be needed. This would protect both you from a potential future claim from the future homeowner.
My guess is he will be more worried about equipment and material costs than labor. I’m sure those things outweigh his profit margin on the job which forces him to dig into his own pocket. While I don’t love this solution one idea might be to have him do any other slabs on your other job sites for a reduced cost to help offset this failed one —assuming he is working elsewhere for you.
We had to do something similar with a sub we hired to do some select bridge removals. They got a little carried away and damaged some beams that we had to replace. Good contractor that had limited resources and scared out of his mind how he was going to overcome this as they just started their own operations a few months before this incident. While I didn’t initially like the solution it turned out to be a good move. We made a valuable friendship that has repaid itself many times over on several different projects. Eventually enough favors were returned to justify the hefty expense of the beams. It just took awhile but we still have that relationship that formed as a result.
I also have a few where it didn’t go so well but honestly you aren’t always going to win. You try to do your best and manage the risk as reasonable as possible. The big takeaway is “being right” doesn’t equate to a favorable outcome. Working together to find a win-win and not putting your subs into a no-win scenario will serve you well. At least it has for us.