New Snap-On Modis Ultra

[Subyroo651]

I searched and did not see any threads on this yet.
Snap-on Just released a new Modis, the Modis Ultra. It appears to be based on a Solus Ultra with a larger 8" touchscreen and now with a built in 2CH-scope.

It seems like a nice middle of the road package but then again a Solus Ultra and a Vantage Pro would probably be just as good(maybe better)


Sound off GJ, I'm curious to see what you guys think.

Snap-On Modis Ultra(Link is slow)

 

[krdiesel03]

for 6k I would buy the IDS

 

[Nanashi]

My dealer said just shy of 8k with the euro adder on. And he also mentioned he would give us 3k for the old modis. I don't know if it's worth that. My boss said the same thing though, a solus and his vantage pro would probably be just as good. The modis seems over priced in my opinion.

 

[firebox40dash5]

I can't see blowing the wad on a Snappy scanner. My boss' old boss has a new... I think Verdict? He's had it like 8 months now, just sitting in his office. It doesn't work worth ****, his SO driver is a worthless ***, and SO won't seem to do anything about it either. On top of being disappointing for an almost-5-figure scanner, it's even worse to get no support after spending that much. Granted most of it is probably his driver, but corporate should be jumping in there real quick on something like that.

That said, we had Modis being stored here by our driver that he got off an estate. I busted it out a few times and didn't have problem, though still needing keys on such a new and spendy unit is annoying.

 

[Tarheelgarage]

What; now only a 2 channell scope?
They cut the balls off the original Modis.....No Thanks...

 

[bobcatdan]

My dealer has one and said he could do pricing of less then a grand over a solius. It seems to have some added benefits, but I have never been a scope guy and see no use for it.

 

[mrjaw14]

I have never been a scope guy and see no use for it.

I was working on an IPC issue earlier this year and no one could figure it out. It was an intermittant issue that turned out to be the IPC itself, but the signal comping from the PCM and the wiring couldn't be verified without a scope. Had a scope been used to verify the CAN signal to the IPC during the failure, then the issue would have been properly diagnosed much quicker.

Scopes are a must on today's cars.

 

[tyndall]

My dealer said just shy of 8k with the euro adder on. And he also mentioned he would give us 3k for the old modis. I don't know if it's worth that. My boss said the same thing though, a solus and his vantage pro would probably be just as good. The modis seems over priced in my opinion.

Between the 1K rebate and the dealers giving absurd amounts for trade-ins, the new modis w/euro isn't that bad. Mine was 5500 trading in a pos OTC.

 

[tyndall]

I can't see blowing the wad on a Snappy scanner. My boss' old boss has a new... I think Verdict? He's had it like 8 months now, just sitting in his office. It doesn't work worth ****, his SO driver is a worthless ***, and SO won't seem to do anything about it either. On top of being disappointing for an almost-5-figure scanner, it's even worse to get no support after spending that much. Granted most of it is probably his driver, but corporate should be jumping in there real quick on something like that.

That said, we had Modis being stored here by our driver that he got off an estate. I busted it out a few times and didn't have problem, though still needing keys on such a new and spendy unit is annoying.

The four minute boot time should have been enough warning for him not to buy it. The dealer gave me the option of a fully loaded two month old Verdict or a new Modis for the same price. As soon as I saw the Windows XP logo on the Verdict, I bought the Modis.

 

[Subyroo651]

A recent YouTube'r said his set him back about $6K. There is no price listed @ Snap-on yet.

It has since been updated with the list of $5,999.00

Euro is of course $1,000 extra on top of that, not to mention tax too.

No thanks, I'll keep my Solus Ultra

 

[joel63]

The four minute boot time should have been enough warning for him not to buy it. The dealer gave me the option of a fully loaded two month old Verdict or a new Modis for the same price. As soon as I saw the Windows XP logo on the Verdict, I bought the Modis.

Don't know so I thought I'd ask, what's wrong with Windows XP?
Thanks.

 

[Subyroo651]

Don't know so I thought I'd ask, what's wrong with Windows XP?
Thanks.

XP itself? nothing, it is one of the most respected Windows versions.

However, it was never intended to be run on a mobile device/scan tool.

I can't speak to the issues, since I don't have one but you can imagine the difficulties.

Have to start up and shutdown correctly, like a PC.
Application errors, like a PC.
Basically like having a PC, running a scanner app and locked by SO.

 

[tyndall]

XP itself? nothing, it is one of the most respected Windows versions.

However, it was never intended to be run on a mobile device/scan tool.

I can't speak to the issues, since I don't have one but you can imagine the difficulties.

Have to start up and shutdown correctly, like a PC.
Application errors, like a PC.
Basically like having a PC, running a scanner app and locked by SO.

Exactly. Now look at the hardware specs. It's more suited to Windows 3.1 or 95. The big problem is the accessories that lock the OS up if the USB gets unplugged or the bluetooth gets interference or out of range. Then you get to do the four minute reboot and hope it doesn't happen again, and again, and again. Software updates usually made things worse. Then there's the problem of allowing XP network access without protection.

 

[joel63]

Thanks for the information about Windows XP.
Now I know a little more about what to look out for with scan devices.
Being an Apple user I'm out of the loop with PC's

 

[mooseracing]

Alot of hardware devices have XP embedded, they are designed for small boards and limited resources like in a scanner. They are an OS that only have the essentials to load an OS and the drivers/tools needed to get their specific job done.

 

[matt01073]

Our shop bought a new modis ultra this week cost was 5900.00 and included euro at n/c 600.00 instant rebate taken off the price bringing it to 5300 then 2000 trade for my 8 year old modis needing a new battery and 2 years old on updates bringing it to 3300.00 plus tax that is not much more than the battery, update and adding euro to my existing unit which i did not have the euro. I have not used it too much yet but what i can say so far is it is almost instant on like 4 seconds from the time you hit the on button to when you are entering the car . its also keyless for domestic and asian but not euro . I believe wireless is an option though im not sure and cant help but think that the wireless piece would leave in somebodys car so i think ill keep the wires for now . will better be able to say if this was a good or bad trade after a few weeks of using it but so far i like it

 

[chris142]

I ain't buying anything like that unless my boss kicks down a raise big enough to pay for that thing. How many jobs does it take to pay for that thing?

 

[rhuff86]

I seen this on the truck but just can't see spending the dough on it. My Solus ultra does everything I need it to do. I am still running 12.2 and don't even plan on upgrading software for at least another year.

 

[CWP1616L]

How many jobs does it take to pay for that thing?

Not very many if you're a drivability technician and that's all you do is drivability. Those guys get paid bank.

 

[shockwave]

I am happy with my solus ultra. But I have had good results in useing an autel. Was looking at matco maximus for programming but that is still a hefty chunck of change to drop

 

[nicksnothereman]

I searched and did not see any threads on this yet.
Snap-on Just released a new Modis, the Modis Ultra. It appears to be based on a Solus Ultra with a larger 8" touchscreen and now with a built in 2CH-scope.

It seems like a nice middle of the road package but then again a Solus Ultra and a Vantage Pro would probably be just as good(maybe better)

A recent YouTube'r said his set him back about $6K. There is no price listed @ Snap-on yet.

Sound off GJ, I'm curious to see what you guys think.

Snap-On Modis Ultra(Link is slow)

For that much you should buy a factory (oem) scan tool/calibration tool. But then again if it's for work on specific models it should be provided.

I don't think any of these doodads make you a better mechanic. I only use scanners to check my feelings, not the other way around. What happens to the guy that leans on a scanner for diagnosis everyday then encounters a drivetrain issue or a manufacturer specific gremlin? Doom?

 

[Procareauto]

For that much you should buy a factory (oem) scan tool/calibration tool. But then again if it's for work on specific models it should be provided.

I don't think any of these doodads make you a better mechanic. I only use scanners to check my feelings, not the other way around. What happens to the guy that leans on a scanner for diagnosis everyday then encounters a drive train issue or a manufacturer specific gremlin? Doom?

well, if you hope to service any type of late model vehicle you need to have some sort of scan tool (EX power balance test). as for the snap-on scanner I have had one for a month. I then i respectfully handed it back to the snap-on guy. not only is it just a overpriced touch screen ETHOS. it lacks so much for the price once you factor in the additional adapters and euro package you could of easy purchased a LAUNCH scan tool.

 

[Nanashi]

I used the modis ultra for the last 3 weeks as a demo. So far it seems way over priced. I mean it doesnt really do any thing special the old modis didnt do. Aside from its speed its hard to call it an upgrade.

Is there any major diffrence between this and the solus ultra. I mean aside from the lab scope?

 

[Duarte]

Don't know so I thought I'd ask, what's wrong with Windows XP?
Thanks.

Microsoft will officially discontinue support for XP next Spring. That means no more updates, especially security updates. XP will become the wild west of viruses, spyware and other nasty things...

https://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/end-windows-xp-support-era-signals-beginning-security-nightmare

If you are a business or personal user still running XP, start thinking of upgrading your OS or buying a new PC now.

 

[Black89LX]

old thread but oh well. i was just on the snap-on techknow truck yesterday, its the equivalent of the rocknroll cab express, i was interested in a solus ultra until they showed me the modis ultra.

modis ultra is not a replacement or upgrade for the modis

it is simply a product for the middle of their line. why would i buy two tools when i can get one that does both? talking about a solus and a vantage.

i am thinking about getting it because my ethos doesnt do much and they will give me 1200 as a trade-in. it has 10.2 software... i can get the modis ultra for 4579 with euro software and 450 truck credit

talk me out of it

 

[shortdogg1980]

need some in put on the modis ultra... i curently have a solus ultra 12.4 and a vantage pro 11.4, my snap on dealer is offering me a modis ultra for trade in with euro software and a tote bage, for 2500, should i keep my current set up or trade?

 

[tyndall]

need some in put on the modis ultra... i curently have a solus ultra 12.4 and a vantage pro 11.4, my snap on dealer is offering me a modis ultra for trade in with euro software and a tote bage, for 2500, should i keep my current set up or trade?

OK scanner, useless scope, overpriced. If all you do is read codes, it might be an ok trade.

 

[shortdogg1980]

well i do love my vantage pro,but im looking to have my all in one.....i would thisnk the scope would be better since its a newer version..

 

[Gooman24]

need some in put on the modis ultra... i curently have a solus ultra 12.4 and a vantage pro 11.4, my snap on dealer is offering me a modis ultra for trade in with euro software and a tote bage, for 2500, should i keep my current set up or trade?

One thing I like about having both is I can ready sensor data and scope a signal at the same time. I know the verus can do that but you need to split screen it and it is a PITA. In my mind there is something to be said for 2 tools to do 2 jobs and the update cost isn't that different.

 

[tyndall]

well i do love my vantage pro,but im looking to have my all in one.....i would thisnk the scope would be better since its a newer version..

Scope is only 2 channel and doesn't even have a port to hook up an inductive tach pickup. They crippled it compared to the old modis.

I traded in my new modis ultra after only one month for a verus.

 

[Creditor]

need some in put on the modis ultra... i curently have a solus ultra 12.4 and a vantage pro 11.4, my snap on dealer is offering me a modis ultra for trade in with euro software and a tote bage, for 2500, should i keep my current set up or trade?

To update both units it would cost you $1400 and $2500 gets you a brand new one with the latest update. If you don't have euro on your Solus then it's even more of a bonus because that would cost you $1000 to add to it.

 

[Nanashi]

The MODIS ultra is weak in the lab scope department. Id stock with the solus or upgrade to the verus (spelling).

Do you need to upgrade to 13.4 already? My dealer let's me skip years with no penalties. If you want to upgrade the vantage guess what the just releases the new vantage ultra.

When did they come out with the solus ultra?

 

[shortdogg1980]

Well I have until tomorrow to make a decision, I'm leaning towards keeping my two units...I like the idea of just one unit, but don't see it worth 2500 just for bigger screen, update, and euro..

 

[shortdogg1980]

Well I gave him the MODIS ultra back, he offered me a new versus pro, with euro, 5000 with trade in, plus I get 1000 in truck credit, does it seem fair to you guys? I'm testing it out now, I would love to add the pass thru module to it.

 

[jordan1210]

Another thing to consider is.....a all in one package(scanner/scope)... If it goes down you're going to be out both. I would keep your vantage pro. Ideally I'd prefer a picoscope but you can't beat the mobility of the vantage.

 

[Nanashi]

Well I gave him the MODIS ultra back, he offered me a new versus pro, with euro, 5000 with trade in, plus I get 1000 in truck credit, does it seem fair to you guys? I'm testing it out now, I would love to add the pass thru module to it.

Lol this exactly what happened in our shop we drive the modis ultra for s week and ended up getting the deal on the versus. It is one hell of a nice scanner

 

[tyndall]

For a laugh check the cover of the current flyer. "The perfect companion to any scan tool - the new Vantage Ultra"

It's like a Modis Ultra without any of the good parts.

 

[Mxjr12]

I just picked up the verus pro workstation, I traded in my solus pro and so far I absolutely love to but the pass through is a joke, I have a laptop with the programming set up for all my programming and it works great

 

[shortdogg1980]

Well I used it today and even tho its nice and I can access identifix and all data from it I just don't wanna down 5000....I'm either just gonna update my solus and vantage or just give the modis ultra a shot....

 

[maven]

I just picked up a Modis Ultra with Euro, all the OBD1 adapters, carry case,and low amp probe for $6000 total w/tax. I didn't currently own any scan tools except for a code reader and GM Tech2 & MDI. As for scope functionality or its lacking features I am replacing a 15 yr old Fluke 98, so off the bat only thing I know for sure I don't have now is inductive rpm pickup, I can't recall last time I used the rpm pickup on the 98 actually.... The ease of use and visibility is massively improved over the Fluke though. And the component test and FastTrack information integrated into the Modis makes it a tool I feel I'll reach for more often than I had been using the Fluke lately.

I don't like OTC scan tools, and Launch tools have very minimal presence or support in my area.even my Matco rep doesn't recommend his own tools.So the Modis as a scan tool was really only ever competing against other SO platforms. The Solus not having fast track info was a deal breaker. The Verdict was over $2000 more and I dislike the 3 piece arrangement. The Verus was an option but realistically I couldn't justify the $10,000 tag and I have a big concern about the XP.

I'm full aware there are scopes with better sampling rates and more features, but not with as useful an automotive specific focus, not in a handheld form factor, and not for the approximately $1500 the modis scope accounts for in the package I purchased.

I feel that the Modis Ultra as a whole is more than the sum of its parts and is good value for what it offers. I hope it proves out this way in use.