New to me - MSC 14" vertical bandsaw

[rcsracing]

I picked this up for the upcoming shop (pole barn scheduled end of Sept - 40x64x16) as I also won a few other items, including a scissor lift that will be helpful during the wiring/lighting.

MSC Model #09514613 , 14" bandsaw, 114" blade with blade welder/annealing.

I cleaned up the dust/etc, and I've been checking it out. Blade is pretty dull, so I grabbed one with a Zoro code. The tires on the the wheels are pretty cracked (maybe a crack every 3/4").

- TIre source - rubber from McMaster-Carr ?
- Cement - I've seen mixed messages if needed for 14" or smaller wheels, so I'll probably just use some kind of rubber cement?
- Blade welding - I saw a video from MSC on youtube that was pretty old, and said the blades should be carbon, not bimetal to weld. True? I'll mostly be cutting steel stock and some AL, but hobby basis. I bought a bimetal 10-14tpi blade
- I reached out to MSC by email, but any points on where to look for a manual?
- Current J&J Paste Wax replacement for keeping the table in decent shape? I cleaned it up with some mild scotch bright and WD40 to get it where it's at now.

Thanks!

 

[mcoope18]

I am restoring one of these saws. I believe mine as a little older than yours but you are the only person I can find with this model saw. Did you ever get any answers to your questions? Did MSC respond? Thanks!

 

[mcoope18]

Here's the current state of the restoration.

 

[RoninB4]

I would be mildly surprised if the blade welder produced a good weld. Even the higher priced brand name saws don't always have a blade welder that works beyond just "sticking" it together long enough to break while using it. Some of them work well after you get the routine set and hold your mouth right. Congratulations, wish I had a vertical.

 

[rcsracing]

I spoke too soon on the welder. While the anneal function works 100% of the time, the welder button works ~1% of the time. Not sure how to troubleshoot it yet.

 

[gungatim]

Use Urethane wheels, no glue needed, and they will last 10x what rubber ones will. They are tight and kind of a pain to install, so be careful of your fingers.

I bought mine from Amazon supplied by Rockler in 2016 and they are still like new.

 

[mcoope18]

I spoke too soon on the welder. While the anneal function works 100% of the time, the welder button works ~1% of the time. Not sure how to troubleshoot it yet.

Is there any chance you could add a photo of your wiring behind the welder and switch plate? I have some connections that were broken when I got the saw and Im not sure where they land. Thanks!!

 

[rcsracing]

Send me a PM so I don't forget. I've got some personal stuff going on, but won't take long to unscrew it and snap some shots.

 

[mcoope18]

I think I got it. The capacitor on the grinder motor was bad. Thank you for your help.

 

[rcsracing]

Still stuck on this one (welder).

None of wires look terrible / shorted / etc. The transformer is old, with 3 taps (H weld, L weld, T temper). Temper function works, button for welder operates open/closed correctly based on continuity.

 

[RoninB4]

Welding the blades should be fairly straightforward but it often isn't. It's important to get two ends that match when the back is aligned. How? Flip the blade so there's teeth on both sides when you hold the blade together (does this make sense?) to pass across the grinding wheel. For some of the welders it's important to not only align the back in the guide but also how much of the blade ends is sticking out of the clamps. Too little and it will not weld the ends together but merely "stick" together and break when you use it. If too much sticking out will either slag the blade, overlap the ends, or burn holes in the blade. There's a certain length for the preload that each welder seems to prefer, you'll have to experiment with short pieces to find that. Annealing is important to soften the weld a bit, if it's not annealed the weld is brittle and will break. Grind the sides smooth after annealing. Some welders work great from the get-go. Others frustrated to the point where some would TiG weld the blades. You'll have to find what works. Hope this helped someone.

 

[rcsracing]

Sorry if it wasn't clear - when I press the weld button, nothing happens. When I press temper, the blade heats up.