New Vintage Hoist Revamp

[D45]

Bought a cool hoist on CL for $60!

1/3 HP and 1,200 capacity

This hoist is bad ***

Even came with the owners manual from 1974

Sealed, Oil bath lubricated motor with actual bearings

The 1/4" cable has seen better days, but that's a simple and easy fix

Total weight is only 40 pounds

Lifts 1,200 on a single line

Gear reduction is 533:1

I am going to replace the steel cable with something new......it currently have 1/4" cable but I want to see if 3/8" will fit into the drum hole

I want to change the motor lubricating oil..........some say SAE 20W and some say SAE 30W...which should I use?

The manual does not specify

 

[Jswain]

Awesome find, curious why you want to put thicker cable on it though? The 1/4" will hold almost 4x as much as that will pull, do you just already have 3/8 on hand? Nice find regardless!!

 

[D45]

Yeah I just figured 1/4" seems a tad small...........what is 1/4" steel cable rated for?

I don't have any replacement cable ordered yet............suggest I just stick with 1/4"?

The spool can hold quite a bit also, but I think I don't want the added weight or to bog anything down..........so I am thinking about going with 50 feet

It was a GREAT find, even better than it works flawlessly!

Even has a no slack drum with an electric brake built in

The long controller cable and long 110v plug is also great

 

[D45]

I also want to make sure the hook it not permanently mounted on the cable

This way, I will be able to switch and install a hook, clevis, etc on the cable and not have to soley rely on a hook

 

[Advan]

I wouldn't worry too much about the oil. You could probably fill it with your wife's shampoo with no ill effects.

 

[Carla]

Those are often called a 'tugger', or 'power come-along'.

They are a riggers' tool, and usually found mounted firmly to a piece of heavy plate steel, which is brought out to an 'eye' or 'hook' at the centre-line of the drum.

Its not considered a safe hoisting tool, for obvious reason.

They work well for moving dead vehicles, or for moving machinery on rollers, sometimes with multiple ******-blocks to get a machine through a 'maze' of objects one desires not to have to move.

edited.......good oil for its gearbox is 'cheap at the price', if you mean to get any work done with the unit. The oil spec should be marked on the data-plate.

cheers

Carla

 

[Jswain]

The 1/4" cable would be good for depending on the type 4-6Klbs, it will easily stand whatever that winch can pull.

 

[BDT/NWMN]

That one is 1.3 hp should be a powerful unit

 

[D45]

Its not considered a safe hoisting tool, for obvious reason.

I beg to differ

In the manual, they show pictures of it being used as a hoist and even show accessories to mount this to a trolley setup for using it as a hoist

 

[D45]

Well 1/4" cable is definitely the largest diameter cable I can use, no big deal

 

[D45]

Also, I found a section in the manual talking about the lubricating fluid

It says to change it every 250 hours, which is pretty substantial

Any which way, I still want to change it

Recommended fluid:

Mobilgear 632

It says if Mobilgear 632 cannot be found, use SAE90

Just specifies it has to be compatible with bronze gears

Fill line is 2-1/8" below the fill/drain plug

 

[D45]

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENINDMOMobilgear_600_XP.aspx


Mobilgear 600 XP 320, Formerly Mobilgear 632 is a extra high performance gear oils having outstanding extreme pressure characteristics and load-carrying properties, intended for use in all types of enclosed gear drives with circulation or splash lubrication systems. Mobilgear 600 XP 320, Formerly Mobilgear 632 is designed to stay ahead of the changing needs of gearbox technology. Gearbox technology design trends are towards smaller units with similar power throughput. This increase in power density places increased demands on gear oils. Mobilgear 600 XP 320, Formerly Mobilgear 632 oil is formulated to meet the stress by providing extra protection for gears, bearings and seals.

Mobilgear 600 XP 320, Formerly Mobilgear 632 is formulated to protect gear teeth from wear at its earliest stages. Microscopic wear, called micropitting, can lead to significant gear tooth damage. Mobilgear 600 XP 320, Formerly Mobilgear 632 exceeds the industry requirement for bearing wear protection. In fact, Mobilgear 600 XP 320, Formerly Mobilgear 632 provides up to 15 times the wear protection as measured by the industry standard *** FE 8 test. Mobilgear 600 XP 320, Formerly Mobilgear 632's balanced formulation is able to provide maximum wear and corrosion protection while maintaining compatibility with common gearbox seal materials. Mobilgear 600 XP 320, Formerly Mobilgear 632 helps to maintain gearbox seal integrity thereby preventing oil leaks and keeping contamination out. By protecting the gears, bearings and seals, Mobilgear 600 XP 320, Formerly Mobilgear 632 can improve equipment reliability and increase productivity.

Mobilgear 600 XP 320, Formerly Mobilgear 632 oil is recommended for industrial spur, helical and bevel enclosed gears with circulation or splash lubrication, operating at bulk oil temperatures up to 100�C. They are particularly suitable for gear sets working under heavy or shock loads. Mobilgear 600 XP 320, Formerly Mobilgear 632 oil also finds broad applications in marine gearing applications. They may also be used in non-gear applications include highly loaded and slow speed plain and rolling contact bearings.

 

[D45]

Too bad Mobilgear 600 XP 320 is only available in a 5 gallon bucket for $125

I will just have to settle for some high quality synthetic SAE90

 

[Stuart in MN]

Funny that I've never heard of them since they are right here in town, but the company is still around. http://cordem.com/ Their current product line looks about the same as yours.

 

[D45]

Funny that I've never heard of them since they are right here in town, but the company is still around. http://cordem.com/ Their current product line looks about the same as yours.

THANKS for the link, very cool to know they are still around and are still selling a VERY similar product

 

[454ragtop]

Too bad Mobilgear 600 XP 320 is only available in a 5 gallon bucket for $125

I will just have to settle for some high quality synthetic SAE90

Just make sure it says safe for yellow metals, or similar. Some gear oils aren't.
Jim

 

[David Jackson]

I have a cordless Yale Differential Chain Hoist and no one seems very interested; it works whether you have electric power or not. Anyone want to see pics? Cordless stuff is all the rage these days, you know.

 

[D45]

Just make sure it says safe for yellow metals, or similar. Some gear oils aren't.
Jim

Any tips on what I can use then?

All I have really been able to find, by the quart, is a Outboard Marine grade SAE 90

Outboard motor SAE90 oil should work, maybe?

 

[tarbellb]

I have been doing some cable research lately, lots of info and different kinds out there.

For example: 1/4" 7x19 (# of strands/construction) is rated for 2200lbs Working Load and 5000+ Breaking Load*

*these numbers can vary.

So would definitely NOT put on a thicker cable. I would look into the fiber cables, much more user friendly and the work loads are similar if not better. Off-roaders use similar setups for their trial rigs.

 

[D45]

I bought a new steel cable, 70' X 1/4" winch cable with a thimble eye on one end

It is rated for 4,400 pounds

The winch drum has a slotted hole and the max size is 1/4"

The manual even says 1/4" is the thickest diameter

I really won't be lifting anything heavy or anything anywhere near even 1,000 pounds

More for lifting stuff and holding it in place, plus it will double as my deer skinning/deer hanging hoist

 

[D45]

GL-4 lubricants appear to be bronze/yellow metal safe

Walmart has "SuperTech" which is supposed to be bronze safe gear oil