Newage Pro 3.0 Advice Needed

[williams22]

Hello,
I have the 14-piece Newage Pro 3.0 cabinets being delivered on Monday and I'm trying to get prepared for the install. Two questions in particular I am hoping someone who has the set might be able to answer:
1. I have stem walls in my garage that are anywhere from 3"-5" high. Will I need to attached a 2x4 to my studs, then attach the cabinets to the 2x4 to work around the stem wall?
2. If so, could someone tell me how high the mounting holes are in the multi-use cabinets? I would like to spend some time this weekend getting the 2x4s in place.

Thanks for your help in advance.

Chris

 

[massiets]

I am not at home but recently started working on mine. If I remember correctly I added a 2x4 and apiece of 1/2 plywood (cut to the size of the 2x4) together at 73 1//2 inches to the bottom of the 2x4 for the lockers, and 25 1/2 inches for the lower cabinets. The problem I am running into is if you add this 2x4 and plywood to the wall in order to clear the stem wall and attach the cabinets, you are going to later run into problems with the work top. It is exactly 24 inches wide and in order to not have a gap at the wall for things to roll through, you nee to move the worktop all the way to the back, which makes the front level with the lower cabinets. The lockers on each end then would interfere with a vise if you plan on installing one of them? I hope this helps?

 

[barnee]

the cabinets don't need to sit on legs, so you could lift them to the top of your stem wall and bolt directly to the studs, or fur the wall out as mentioned above and rest them on the ground.

Do you have drywall or some other sheathing up?

 

[pbon]

You need to figure out your desired setup. Legs are adjustable by 2”. Put the cabinets together and the do the 2x4 exactly where you want.

My under bench cabinets are flush with the end cabinets. I prefer that look though they can also go in by 2”. The OP may want additional framing behind the bench top opening under the upper cabinets. He could use finish plywood as a backer and paint, but a slat wall kit from newage or cut a piece of aluminum diamond plate to fit or probably some other things.

I like barnee’s idea of putting the cabinets on the stem wall if that gives you an ok height for your use. I am tall so 5-7 inches off the ground would be fine. 2-4 inches is the normal range. As he says, the cabinets are designed fir a variety of mounting options and hanging off the wall is one.

 

[williams22]

I like the idea of mounting to the wall, just not sure I’m uo for that level of install as I’ll be mostly by myself.

I bought Wall Control panels to put above the work surface and was planning to mount the uppers a foot higher so the full 36” height of the wall control panels is exposed. Good plan?

Massiets, did you need to add the ply on top of the 2x4 to fully clear the stem wall?

 

[ShadowRuleZ]

I wall mounted mine by myself. I used a 1x6 ledger board to get them off the ground. I didn't use the lag bolts that were provided but bought 4" structural self drilling screws instead. If the stem wall is level why don't you use that as a base for the cabinets?

 

[williams22]

I wall mounted mine by myself. I used a 1x6 ledger board to get them off the ground. I didn't use the lag bolts that were provided but bought 4" structural self drilling screws instead. If the stem wall is level why don't you use that as a base for the cabinets?

Did you install the mounting brackets and then hang using those or just screws straight into studs? Are you able to lift the cabinets up by yourself?

 

[lowside67]

In my garage we had a short stem wall (approx 3.5") so we simply did not install the rear feet or the bases they screw into and sat it directly on the back and then installed the feet and adjusted to level for the front.

-Mark

 

[pbon]

Buy some lumber to hold up the front end of the cabinets at your desired height plus shims to level it. Should be one person doable then. The above bench cabinets will require more blocking or a frame to get and hold them in place while you lag them to the wall. A second person could help there but is not critical.

 

[Gerald O]

I'd wait to actually get them before you start furring out the wall. The backs have lots of holes to give you some flexibility. You can download the assembly manual from their website:
https://newageproducts-xiw173ersdfr...-content/uploads/2017/10/Pro-Instructions.pdf

The legs and adjuster feet can be extended to about 4-3/4" max. I had a 9" stem wall, so I ended up having to make leg extensions for the fronts. Back sits on the stem wall and is lagged into the wall studs. Some folks wil just mount to the wall and leave off the front legs, but these cabinets are very heavy by themselves. Combine that with their extra large capacity and load rating, you can get far more weight than I'd feel comfortable with just hanging on the wall.

I used a floor jack to raise them onto the stem wall by myself, but this is really a two man job. These cabinets are extremely heavy. I actually had one fall when trying to muscle it around by myself and got a pretty big bruise, and a slightly dented corner on the cabinet.

 

[_Stang_]

I used the feet and secured to the wall with structural screws through a 1x3. Rock solid.

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[ShadowRuleZ]

Did you install the mounting brackets and then hang using those or just screws straight into studs? Are you able to lift the cabinets up by yourself?

I didn't use the brackets. I put a 1x6 ledger board level on the wall (it was actually originally base molding) because my floor slopes towards the door. I started in a corner by laying down cardboard. I then moved a tall cabinet over to the corner with a movers dolly and stood it up. I tilted it back, leaned it forwad and pushed it back so it landed on the ledger board, and then pushed it up against the wall and used a couple of 2x4s to hold the front up while I got it where I wanted. Just repeat for the rest. I did take out shelves and doors to make them lighter.

It would definitely have been easier with two people!

In my garage we had a short stem wall (approx 3.5") so we simply did not install the rear feet or the bases they screw into and sat it directly on the back and then installed the feet and adjusted to level for the front.

-Mark

The legs and adjuster feet can be extended to about 4-3/4" max. I had a 9" stem wall, so I ended up having to make leg extensions for the fronts. Back sits on the stem wall and is lagged into the wall studs. Some folks wil just mount to the wall and leave off the front legs, but these cabinets are very heavy by themselves. Combine that with their extra large capacity and load rating, you can get far more weight than I'd feel comfortable with just hanging on the wall.

I'm not using any feet and hoping the manufacturer is correct! If extensions had been available I would have considered it, but it's nice to not have anything along the front too. I also switched to longer structural screws instead of the lag bolts, I have 2x6 walls instead of 2x4 so I really wanted to get into them. My ledger board is taking a lot of the weight as well, not just the screws.

Edit: Picture showing the overhang between base cabinets and countertop:

 

[Coloradical]

I just received mine Thursday, haven’t installed yet but these suckers are definitely heavier than I thought. I was set on wall mounting them but as other stated, now that I felt them I don’t feel comfortable doing that. Definitely gonna leave them on the floor. And I would absolutely try and get a second set of hands.

 

[_Stang_]

For the guys not using the legs why not cut 2x4s or 2x6s and make a box frame underneath spanning the four leg mounting holes that the cabinet can sit on. May have to shim if your floors are sloped. You'll never see it.

Edit, you might see it but could paint grey to blend in.

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[Dentaltec]

I had a palate Jack and did my entire garage by myself it was not easy but I managed to wall mount everything. Once the first cabinet is installed and is squared and plumb it is easier from there. If your walls are not square and you think you can just lag the next cabinet just know bolting them together then becomes a nightmare.

Take your time you can do this

 

[HillDetailWorks]

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