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ssbtech

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I've often wondered - do shops that use air tools heavily or require continuous streams of air for polishers and sanders simply use really big tanks or is there another means of delivering the required air for these higher demands?

Thanks.
 
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DanInVA

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My shop uses air tools very heavily. I don't know how big the compressor is, but the tank is massive. I imagine the compressor that feeds it is similarly stout.
 

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I've often wondered - do shops that use air tools heavily or require continuous streams of air for polishers and sanders simply use really big tanks or is there another means of delivering the required air for these higher demands?

Thanks.

Big tanks and big, two-stage compressors running on 230V or even 3-phase, 480V for really big ones.
 
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Got it, thanks :)

I figured that was the way it was done, but I was wondering if there were any sorts of on-demand air pumps that could supply the needed pressure and volume without a tank.
 

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we have a Quincy QR-25 duplex with a 240 gallon horizontal tank :eek: , it weighs nearly 4000 lbs, it rarely ever kicks on and when it does you can barely even hear it. I just hope I never have to help move it! :eyecrazy:
 

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This is one at work, can't tell you much about it but there is a pair here, and a lot more, and even bigger ones at other points around other workshops.


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My shop uses a lot of air. We just have a 60 gallon tank for storage and a bad *** atlas screw type compressor
 

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Large mfg facility here.
Two rotary screw compressors with one on each end of the building that can be made into a combined system should one fail. And two amssive tanks.

150+ employee users.

Lots of metal and armour fab and assembly.

The air goes down fully here you send folks home and it costs $$$$$$$$$$$$ of down time.
Not good.

Each compressor has its own quiet room. YOu never hear them.
But guaranteed air at 120 psi all day long at each drop down with no lag during heacy use times.

We don;t f%^k around.
:)
 
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Depends on the facility and type of use. In an industrial environment of any size, generally you are going to have rotary screw compressors, which run more or less constantly and can be sized to put out enough air to supply anything you need. Most systems of this nature will have one or more air receivers, to give a bit of cushion for variation in demand. Generally the tanks are large relative to what you would have in a home shop, but somewhat small relative to the compressor and its output (vs. what you would see with a reciprocating compressor). An air receiver is essentially an air battery- it only does any good when there is opportunity to recharge it. So if your average air draw is more than what your compressor is putting out, it doesn't matter how big of a tank you have, you're going to run out of air. More air storage can be advantageous where there is a lot of demand variation- for example if you have a media blast operation that is not used regularly, that will draw a tremendous amount of air, but maybe for only a few minutes at a time. So your choices are to either buy a huge (and expensive) compressor that can more or less keep up for the few minutes of extremely high draw, but then is way oversized for the rest of the time, or build storage capacity in the system to help provide extra air for those high draw periods. A smaller compressor can then recharge the receiver in times of lower demand. Even at that, though, applications with very high air demand can drain even a large receiver very quickly. In other applications where demand is closer to constant, it makes more sense to have less storage capacity. Variable speed compressors have changed things in recent years as well, basically allowing the compressor to vary its output to meet demand.
 

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Automotive manufacturing here - I've not seen our compressors and tanks, but I've been assured they are massive.

We have probably a few hundred air tools running at any given point, and that use is almost certainly dwarfed by the amount of air our equipment uses (pneumatic control for locks, actuators, etc), and THAT usage is probably dwarfed by the paint shop... we use a lot of air.
 

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Large mfg facility here.
Two rotary screw compressors with one on each end of the building that can be made into a combined system should one fail. And two amssive tanks.

:+1: Manufacturing facilities will run large rotary screw compressors. Smaller body shops and auto shops will run multiple large displacement reciprocating (piston) air compressors.

It's not just the tank size, but the compressors alone just have raw power. We are talking in the 30+hp range. Nothing like the little home owner ~5hp units.
 

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I have 2 units, one does 99.5% of it, the bigger is backup and hi demand like sandblast. Both are plumbed on but the breaker is off to number 2. I used it the first time in a while while I reman the motor in 1.
 

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