Newbie with Stanley ID question Chisels

[TomB29577]

Hi all,
My father in law had these Stanley chisels handed down to him. He has had them in his attic for many years.
I have found similar models online, but not these. I see stanley on them but no model number anywhere.
One of them has the remains of a sticker on the handle. They appear to be some type of wood handles.
Not letting me attach pictures. Maybe cause I'm new.
Thank you.

 

[four.cycle]

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[TomB29577]

Thanks four.cycle! Here they are.

 

[d42jeep]

The bottom one is a gouge for wood turning. Others will no doubt weigh in on the wood chisels.
-Don

 

[The Cobbler]

all I can add is, the handles are probably rosewood .

 

[four.cycle]

@TomB29577 -

Keep THIS LINK handy

and this one

Enjoy!

There are a great number of websites dedicated solely to woodworking tools. Click that second link, and scroll all the way to the very bottom for a list of links. Cheers!

 

[RTM]

Are there metal tops on the top 4?

If so, they may be Everlasting chisels, No 750.

Stanley Tools : New Tools Added to Our Line Since Last Edition of Catalogue No. 34 : Stanley Rule & Level Co. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

12 p., illus., 18.4 cm, trade catalog

archive.org

 

[RTM]

all I can add is, the handles are probably rosewood .

The catalog I linked says Hickory, but may have changed over time.

 

[Pexto]

The bottom one is a firmer gouge (a cabinetmaker's tool), but someone has ground it like a turning gouge, with a fingernail profile.

It sure looks like a Buck Brothers and not a Stanley. There's a Buck Bros. catalog here:

Buck Brothers Edge Tools Price List and Reference Book : Number 12 : Buck Brothers Inc. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

127 p., illus., 22.6 cm, trade catalog

archive.org

 

[PBCampbell]

Those don't look like metal caps to me, so Stanley 750s most likely, not Everlasting like in RTMs link. I really like the handle on that gouge though.

 

[RTM]

Those don't look like metal caps to me, so Stanley 750s most likely, not Everlasting like in RTMs link. I really like the handle on that gouge though.

Reason I didn't go there (750 series) as those socketed chisels almost always have a gap between the socket and the shoulder, as seen here

Stanley Tools : Catalogue No. 34 : April 1934 Edition : The Stanley Rule & Level Plant : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

218 p., illus., 16.9 cm, trade catalog

archive.org

The zero gap, smooth transition made me think Everlasting.

Hope he comes back w more pictures.

 

[Mintgrun]

I noticed the lack of gap too and the solid core/capped **** you referenced made sense, but these aren't wood handled. They're a composite made to look like wood. It looks similar to old style CutCo knife handles.

Here's a photo swiped from the Jim Bode tools site. He refers to them as composite handles.

Very Rare Graduated Set of STANLEY No. 1004 Composite Wood Grain Handle EVERLASTING Chisel Set - 102262 - AS OF FEB 23

Good, useable condition. Some with decals. Sizes: 2 inch, 1 1/2”, 1 1/4”, 7/8”, 3/4”, 1/2”. The 2 inch has had some filler applied near the socket, otherwise fine.

www.jimbodetools.com

There's quite a bit of color/swirl variation in the CutCo handles, but this photo shows that style.

 

[bmwrd0]

Those are definitely metal caped, and thus Everlasting.

Very nice!

 

[RTM]

I noticed the lack of gap too and the solid core/capped **** you referenced made sense, but these aren't wood handled. They're a composite made to look like wood. It looks similar to old style CutCo knife handles.

tough call there, looks really close, still waiting for the OP

 

[Mintgrun]

Jim Bode called them Everlasting chisels.

I've had people mistake my CutCo knife handles for wood.

 

[TomB29577]

Wow. Thanks for all the info everyone. They have metal caps and the coloring in the wood does look like some type of composite. But I'm an amateur so not sure. Tom

 

[TomB29577]

Look a lot like the 1004's in MintGrun post yes?

 

[TomB29577]

Thanks for the links as well. My next question was going to be how to clean them. I see the links. thanks.

 

[four.cycle]

^ Private Lugnutz posted an entire section on "cleaning" that's well worth reading, particulary if you are concerned about maintaining "collector" value on something like that.

 

[alinc100]

I'm confused a bit as well, pulled out the John Walter Book and no reference to composite handled chisels. The OP has found a great set. They will sharpen nicely and perform for a long time.

 

[four.cycle]

^ He most certainly did.

 

[RTM]

Here's a photo swiped from the Jim Bode tools site. He refers to them as composite handles.

Very Rare Graduated Set of STANLEY No. 1004 Composite Wood Grain Handle EVERLASTING Chisel Set - 102262 - AS OF FEB 23

Good, useable condition. Some with decals. Sizes: 2 inch, 1 1/2”, 1 1/4”, 7/8”, 3/4”, 1/2”. The 2 inch has had some filler applied near the socket, otherwise fine.

www.jimbodetools.com

Any clues as to when those were made / sold? Not finding them in a quick poke thru catalogs, will try again later. Just checked my Walter’s Bible, he doesn’t list them, so may have never hit the catalogs.

 

[Mintgrun]

Any clues as to when those were made / sold?

Not based on any Stanley references.

The Cutco knives with that type of thermo-resin composite handle were made/sold between 1952-1972. I would guess that the chisels are from early in that timeframe. Possibly before.

A man named Thomas Lamb designed those handles. He also designed handles on Skil tools at some point. There is some interesting information about him and the handle material in this link.

https://www.cutco.com/pdf/Cutco-just-the-facts.pdf

 

[akasrick]

Not based on any Stanley references.

The Cutco knives with that type of thermo-resin composite handle were made/sold between 1952-1972. I would guess that the chisels are from early in that timeframe. Possibly before.

A man named Thomas Lamb designed those handles. He also designed handles on Skil tools at some point. There is some interesting information about him and the handle material in this link.

https://www.cutco.com/pdf/Cutco-just-the-facts.pdf

akasrick

 

[genog]

Nice chisels OP

 

[RTM]

akasrick

Hmm, model 40, not 1004, didn't look that low in Walter's book.

 

[akasrick]

Hmm, model 40, not 1004, didn't look that low in Walter's book.

Guessing the "40" references the set.
You wrote: Not finding them in a quick poke thru catalogs. I took to mean the 34 catalogs.
Mintgrun wrote, were made/sold between 1952-1972.
1959 #34 shows at a quick glance, plastic handles.
I have no idea when the were first produced.
They are the only Stanley 1950s catalogs I have on this machine. Downloaded from the usual place, archive org.
Walter's book is a goal for me to see.
As usual. You guys do nice work.

akasrick

 

[RTM]

.
Walter's book is a goal for me to see.

I can hold mine up and take a picture.

Managed to score it at a reasonable price from a friend thinning his collection gene. I look stuff up in there when I can't find it poking thru catalogs, which is pretty rare. If you ever need a reference, feel free to holler, might take longer cuz it's buried in the tool /personal office downstairs, where I am not chained 8 hours a day.

I also have a similar Yankee, Keen Kutter and Sargent plane books, and Tom Lamond's spokeshave book, and maybe others when things get tricky. Handsaws of US and GB, British plane makers, PTAMPIA, etc.

 

[Mintgrun]

Mintgrun wrote, were made/sold between 1952-1972.

Just to clarify, I was referring to the Cutco knives in the style I posted above. Not the Stanley chisels. That was just a guess as to the timeframe they seemed likely to fit into.

I was (am) too lazy to do the work of looking through the catalogs.