Newer Craftsman Tool Boxes

[rebelranger]

Finn, I am not a metallurgist but in multi millions of dollars of gym equipment is my personal experience. The shipping containers of Chinese metal gym equipment bends/rusts/ and breaks 3x faster then American metal/equipment of the same thickness.

This is the same experience I've had with Chinese tools compared to German/USA tools as well.

 

[finn]

Finn, I am not a metallurgist but in multi millions of dollars of gym equipment is my personal experience. The shipping containers of Chinese metal gym equipment bends/rusts/ and breaks 3x faster then American metal/equipment of the same thickness.

This is the same experience I've had with Chinese tools compared to German/USA tools as well.

That’s probably because you’re buying equipment made with lite gauge, thin wall steel, and comparing it to products designed with much heavier walled steel tubing.

Wall thickness has nothing to do with metallurgy. You’re confusing metallurgy and steel quality with equipment design parameters. Metallurgy includes things like grain structure and chemical composition. Design includes things like material selection wall thickness, and geometry. Two distinctly different things.

Show me a case where, for example, a Bosch drill is inferior because it came from China rather than Germany.

 

[whateg01]

...The shipping containers of Chinese metal gym equipment bends/rusts/ and breaks 3x faster then American metal/equipment of the same thickness.

That’s probably because you’re buying equipment made with lite gauge, thin wall steel, and comparing it to products designed with much heavier walled steel tubing.
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[finn]

Not going to argue, but provide the actual data, rather than anecdotal information.

Science is a real thing, guys. Anybody can make things up, especially on the internet.

 

[rebelranger]

Finn,

I have all the data I need. If you say China is the best product country show me your evidence.

Stats are bent to the highest payer...real world experience is what I want. Sure Ford says it's trucks get 30mpg on hwy, in real world it's only 18.

Again, at this time Buying Made in America will require a lower expectation of "value" because China has skewed your expectations.

 

[finn]

Finn,

I have all the data I need. If you say China is the best product country show me your evidence.

Stats are bent to the highest payer...real world experience is what I want. Sure Ford says it's trucks get 30mpg on hwy, in real world it's only 18.

Again, at this time Buying Made in America will require a lower expectation of "value" because China has skewed your expectations.

Never said that. I’ll gladly review your anecdotal evidence, You do have hard numbers, don’t you?

It’s been said before, but my Apple products are all excellent, You do know where they come from, don’t you

Did you know that much of Caterpillar’s hydraulic valves and castings come from China. They also have a huge equipment presence there. Are you implying they’re stupid?
Never heard of quality problems with their Chinese products or components.

As far as MPG goes, my wife’s Maverick has been averaging 48 mpg over the last four months. It’s at 50.1 mpg on the current fill.

 

[Steve_P]

I've got four 6' stacks of Craftsman Griplatch boxes that are 10-15 years old. Most of the drawers are certainly overloaded. They're fine for a home shop. I've had no issues. I love the Griplatch feature. Yes, HF boxes have thicker steel, but that wasn't an option at the time. The better Craftsman boxes like the Griplatch with ball bearing slides are fine for home use, but certainly not professional use where you're going to open drawers a hundred times a day. Are they the best? No, but not necessarily junk -depending on the application.

The Craftsman low end boxes from years ago, even in the 1980s, were for the typical home garage where you'd have a set of screwdrivers in one drawer, a few wrenches in the next drawer, basically 20 lbs in a drawer.

The V series boxes look nice.

 

[whateg01]

I've got four 6' stacks of Craftsman Griplatch boxes that are 10-15 years old. Most of the drawers are certainly overloaded. They're fine for a home shop. I've had no issues. I love the Griplatch feature. Yes, HF boxes have thicker steel, but that wasn't an option at the time. The better Craftsman boxes like the Griplatch with ball bearing slides are fine for home use, but certainly not professional use where you're going to open drawers a hundred times a day. Are they the best? No, but not necessarily junk -depending on the application.

The Craftsman low end boxes from years ago, even in the 1980s, were for the typical home garage where you'd have a set of screwdrivers in one drawer, a few wrenches in the next drawer, basically 20 lbs in a drawer.

The V series boxes look nice.

I think the grip latch was one of the best, most intuitive latching systems ever.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Please leave the politics out of the discussion. Thank you.

 

[N2rockets]

Ive had a Craftsman setup from the GripLatch Ball Bearing line for 15 years or so and it looks brand new and I have never had an issue. You can find the stuff used in good shape lots of places. I still find pieces to expand my garage collection as I need more space and have never felt like I want to switch to another setup and its relatively affordable