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NG Heater...Can't make up my mind - HELP!

zmaxmotorsports

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How about a 1.5t mini split/heat pump?Wouldnt be a whole lot over youre $1000.00,and you could also cool the garage with it?
Or if you just want forced air you could always put a furnace in the attic and duct it to ceiling vents where ever you want them,no lose of ceiling space that way.
 
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OldNeons

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You will be very happy with the two radiants. This is exactly what I referred to in my earlier post - I have a buddy with exact same set up in his 4+ car garage. Well insulated, and he rarely runs the second one! Sounds like you will be warm soon - good luck!
 
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StreetThisEVO

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You will be very happy with the two radiants. This is exactly what I referred to in my earlier post - I have a buddy with exact same set up in his 4+ car garage. Well insulated, and he rarely runs the second one! Sounds like you will be warm soon - good luck!

:thumbup: Thank you!
 

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Congrats on getting heat soon!

Just remember these will put moisture into the air, and they need combustion air since they are ventless. The owners manual should say how many sq inches of ventilation area they need. A simple and cheap safety feature would be to buy a carbon monoxide detector. It;s cheap insurance, as CO is odorless and sadly kills people every year.

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scoob8000

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Congrats on getting heat soon!

Just remember these will put moisture into the air, and they need combustion air since they are ventless. The owners manual should say how many sq inches of ventilation area they need. A simple and cheap safety feature would be to buy a carbon monoxide detector. It;s cheap insurance, as CO is odorless and sadly kills people every year.

Post back with pictures!

I can't agree with this more. I learned the hard way about vent free heaters. They pump out a ton of moisture! Some folks have seen tools and other items flash rust depending how much they run.

They're 99% efficient because there is no vent to vent the exhaust gases outside.

We've got a couple of the t-star series reznors at work and they're awesome. While a little more than I want to spend, I'm probably going to watch for the Mr Heater to go on sale at the end of the season.

Last year I saw the 80k unit at lowes for $299 on clearance. I should have bought it even though my garage wasn't built yet.
 

madosta

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Did you Install It? or someone else?

They are made in China just like 90% of everything else you own.

With the result of high numbers of units sold you have higher failure rates hence more negative reviews. Many of the problems reported are of DIY's who failed to install, operate or handle it properly.
The Heatstars are a very popular FHA heaters, their inexpensive, sell well and are reliable. Many GJ owners can attest to that.

The earlier units did have some control board problems but due to their good customer service and newer design revisions they seemed to have cleaned up the issues.

Your slow flash status LED indicates the unit is operating properly.
Can I assume you have checked all other avenue's (gas, vent, stat.)?

If you didn't do the Install call the Installer.

Whatever guy, I'm not a fanboy of Made in China if I have a choice.

It was a control board failure. They sent me a new one. The fan also vibrates. I think I got a lemon. This is my own review, so I'm just providing my opinion.

The thing produces heat so I am happy, but spending $500 and then having to wait to get a repair part to a brand new item is ridiculous.
 

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I can't agree with this more. I learned the hard way about vent free heaters. They pump out a ton of moisture! Some folks have seen tools and other items flash rust depending how much they run.

They're 99% efficient because there is no vent to vent the exhaust gases outside.

Here in Canada vent free gas heaters are illegal. Every fuel burning appliance has to be vented. I guess it comes from living in Siberia where everything is shut up tight all winter. :)
 
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StreetThisEVO

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I will be installing a intake vent 2' above the floor directly below the heater and a exhaust vent directly above the heater at the highest point possible per the instructions. Each heater will have it's own intake & exhaust vent setup. They will be flush mounted and should blend right in. They don't need to be very large.
 

onewheat

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How do you determine what size heater you need for a garage? I am around 13,000 cu feet (26.5 x 36 x 13.5). I am R-19 BIB in the walls and R-38 batts in the ceiling, 3 8'x10' insulated doors (about 6.7 R-value), one insulated steel man door and about 22 sq ft of window. I was thinking forced air NG, but am now more confused than ever. Thoughts?
 

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I occasionally run a vent free heater. I have an old Rinnai Glo-Ray. They quit importing the infra-reds when everyone went to the cheaper Chinese units. I also have the 824 model which is the modulating unit (8-24kbtu). When clean, I get 0% CO with my combustion analyzer. I haven't run the 824 but a couple times so have no cleaning history with it. The Glo-Ray was pulled out of storage yesterday afternoon in preparation of loosing power. It is my back-up heater.

You clean an infrared with compressed air. Blow out the plaques. I clean mine with 100#. Hit one of the Chinese plaques with 75 and you will be buying a new burner. The other critical issue is the pilot assembly. get a can of compressed air and stick that little plastic tube down the face of the pilot assembly and blow out any dust & debris which collects on it. When clean these units will not smell when given good clean air. Uncap a can of paint, or anything else and look out. Whatever is airborne will go through that burner and will not come out smelling better than it did when it went in. Happy Heating!
 

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I can't decide either. I purchased a 30kbtu procomm ventless and im concerned about moisture and how long it would take yo heat 800 sq ft with 9ft ceilings. Streetthisevo 22 yr dsmer here. How did it work out?
 
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StreetThisEVO

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I can't decide either. I purchased a 30kbtu procomm ventless and im concerned about moisture and how long it would take yo heat 800 sq ft with 9ft ceilings. Streetthisevo 22 yr dsmer here. How did it work out?

I haven't finished the gas pipe install yet. Hopefully by next weekend I will be able to fire them up for the first time. This is assuming everything I did doesn't leak and passes my pressure test.

You have me beat by a few years. Purchased my first DSM back in the early 2000's. I've owned about 10 of them plus the EVO since haha.
 

hockey88fan

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My garage is the same size, r38 in ceiling r19 walls, just installed a Berko 75kw 25,000btu heater and was toasty warm all weekend. Once your building is insulated, your heater might be way oversized?
 
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