Nice lathe.

[jabberwoki]

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[bmwrd0]

You looking to downsize Jabber? That seems a little small for your tastes...

 

[DocsMachine]

Nah, it's only a medium duty. Why bother?

And again, looks like that was a cherry machine before some ***** parked it out in the rain. Gotta save that warehouse space for the office chairs and pressboard desks, y'know?

Doc.

 

[DocsMachine]

Wait... 8-1/2" spindle bore?!? Once word of that gets out, there's gonna be fistfights over that machine.

Doc.

 

[dutchgray]

Wait... 8-1/2" spindle bore?!? Once word of that gets out, there's gonna be fistfights over that machine.

Doc.

That would actually be a very useful machine for plenty of heavy industrial shops because of the large bore, real shame its been left outside.

 

[Provincial]

I used to run a 20" version of that lathe. It is a real workhorse! That one will still do some good work, but will need the ways to be refurbished. Probably worth the effort.

 

[ClappedOutBport]

Nah, it's only a medium duty. Why bother?

And again, looks like that was a cherry machine before some ***** parked it out in the rain. Gotta save that warehouse space for the office chairs and pressboard desks, y'know?

Doc.

That would actually be a very useful machine for plenty of heavy industrial shops because of the large bore, real shame its been left outside.

God it's infuriating isn't it. It's been out there long enough for the red knobs to get all faded. Paint looks excellent, hasn't hurt it a drop. I guess it depends on if water got into the headstock.

 

[VocaTexas]

From what I can tell in the pics, the rust doesn't look that bad YET. It looks like surface rust. Some Evaporust and Scotchbrite pads and it would probably clean up pretty nicely.
Hope somebody that can use it gets it instead of a scrapper.

 

[dutchgray]

God it's infuriating isn't it. It's been out there long enough for the red knobs to get all faded. Paint looks excellent, hasn't hurt it a drop. I guess it depends on if water got into the headstock.

You would think someone would have some sense and auction these off right away, rather then leave them in the rain for months and then auction them off, they would make more money that way, I bet they don't care because it isn't their money they are wasting.

 

[Steve from Socal]

That is an oil country lathe, there is value in it for that alone. It is not as "bad" as the pics make it, as noted most of that rust should wipe off.

Steve

 

[ClappedOutBport]

From what I can tell in the pics, the rust doesn't look that bad YET. It looks like surface rust. Some Evaporust and Scotchbrite pads and it would probably clean up pretty nicely.
Hope somebody that can use it gets it instead of a scrapper.

If it's anything like where I am, a local machinery dealer will get it (normally they do the worlds shittiest quick paint job, but they'd make this one worse), do almost nothing to fix it, and turn it around for 3-4x the price.

 

[DocsMachine]

Well, to be honest, I'd rather see that than watch it get scrapped.

And really, there's zero home shop or even small commercial shop interest in a machine like that. The shops that DO want something like that generally don't browse eBay and Craigslist- they buy from dealers. And yes, there are in fact dealers out there that will try to carefully remove rust from the ways, rather than sending the gofer out there with an angle grinder and a flap wheel.

Still doesn't excuse leaving the thing in the rain in the first place, but hey, there's still a chance she can do some good work.

Doc.

 

[ClappedOutBport]

From what I can tell in the pics, the rust doesn't look that bad YET. It looks like surface rust. Some Evaporust and Scotchbrite pads and it would probably clean up pretty nicely.
Hope somebody that can use it gets it instead of a scrapper.

Well, to be honest, I'd rather see that than watch it get scrapped.

And really, there's zero home shop or even small commercial shop interest in a machine like that. The shops that DO want something like that generally don't browse eBay and Craigslist- they buy from dealers. And yes, there are in fact dealers out there that will try to carefully remove rust from the ways, rather than sending the gofer out there with an angle grinder and a flap wheel.

Still doesn't excuse leaving the thing in the rain in the first place, but hey, there's still a chance she can do some good work.

Doc.

She's already over scrap prices, so I don't think we have to worry about that. Yes, I agree dealers are necessary, I just wish these guys did a better job. They had a nice 25"x25' TOS lathe, painted white over all sorts of shmutts. The tailstock handwheel was missing the spinner and bent. I seem to recall it having excessive friction too. How are you gonna sell a machine like that?

They had a round ram bridgeport in the back they were real proud of. "Not for sale." Guy was telling me about how little use it had and how tight it was. I turned a crank just to see how it felt. Yeah, tight was right. I about needed a cheater bar because they had been greasing the ways because it had Alamite fittings. Your average Joe making that mistake is one thing, but a machinery dealer with millions in inventory? Lost all trust after that.

 

[Aaron_W]

You would think someone would have some sense and auction these off right away, rather then leave them in the rain for months and then auction them off, they would make more money that way, I bet they don't care because it isn't their money they are wasting.

From what I understand most government auctions actually end up costing more than they recover, but they are a thing because scrapping stuff that works is wasteful and the potential for corruption selling individually is considered too high. I've dealt with auctioning off government vehicles and there is quite a bit of paper involved. By the time the vehicles hit the auction block they may have been sitting for a year or more.

Too bad we can't return to the old days where a government agency could sell stuff directly to a local agency or member of the public that could make use of it. Instead we pay to move stuff, warehouse it, catalog it, and then pay administrative costs to auction it off. Whatever agency surplussed that lathe will probably be lucky if they make enough to replace the box of pens they used up filling out the forms to get rid of it.

 

[dutchgray]

From what I understand most government auctions actually end up costing more than they recover, but they are a thing because scrapping stuff that works is wasteful and the potential for corruption selling individually is considered too high. I've dealt with auctioning off government vehicles and there is quite a bit of paper involved. By the time the vehicles hit the auction block they may have been sitting for a year or more.

Too bad we can't return to the old days where a government agency could sell stuff directly to a local agency or member of the public that could make use of it. Instead we pay to move stuff, warehouse it, catalog it, and then pay administrative costs to auction it off. Whatever agency surplussed that lathe will probably be lucky if they make enough to replace the box of pens they used up filling out the forms to get rid of it.

I think things are a little better in the UK with regards to tooling, the military auctions seem to go straight to dealers, they buy stuff by the pallet, there is a lot of NOS ex military tooling about, a lot less than there used to be though but there is not a whole lot of surplus machines to begin with. A lathe like that would probably end up at a dealer with an asking price of £10k to £20k depending on condition and tooling.
I have bought direct from schools disposing of machinery though.

 

[DocsMachine]

Wait... 8-1/2" spindle bore?!? Once word of that gets out, there's gonna be fistfights over that machine.

-Tol'ja. Sold for almost $18K!

Pretty much guarantees no scrapper got it. That badboy's getting fixed up and put back into service!

Doc.

 

[Roberts210]

I'm glad it's going to a new home.