No love for standard A19 bulbs?

[twowheeled]

I'm trying to light a 20x24 garage with a 12 foot ceiling on one portion, 16 on the other.

I have read the stickied lighting thread, but being in Canada we don't have options for affordable tube fixtures or tubes.

Curious if anyone is just using cheap keyless lamp sockets and A19 bulbs.

The 10W equivalent is 1600 lumens and $2-4 per bulb at any big box stores. A keyless lamp socket is ~$1-2. Daisy chaining 6 bulbs gives 10,000 lumens for under $20 if you count the wiring and conduit.

Advantage is a bulb can be swapped in seconds. Big boxes would probably take back burnt bulbs as well for exchange.

Is this a bad idea and why?

 

[Metal-Marc]

I do. Pic later.

It's an old barn turned into a garage. 20'x50' with 8 ft ceiling and I have 12 of these lights. They're on a Leviton Z-Wave switch, so I can turn them on/off from the house. It's very bright when I turn them all on.

 

[Drill Sergeant Arc]

Is this a bad idea and why?

Yes! People might think you’re selling used cars.

 

[nadogail]

I changed the lighting in my workshop from 4 fluorescent fixtures with 2 F40-T12 tubes in each to 6 LED modules in keyless sockets. The power consumption went down and the illumination level increased.

I did add two boxes and some wire.

 

[kbuhagiar]

Curious to hear more commentary on this.

What is highest lumen-output LED device available that fits into a single A19 socket?

 

[JunkBonds]

Curious to hear more commentary on this.

What is highest lumen-output LED device available that fits into a single A19 socket?

Highest I have seen is 100w equivalent.

 

[Bert_]

A19 is a bulb shape, it's what is normally used for 40-100w bulbs. E26 or medium base socket is what the screw in socket is called

 

[whateg01]

When my 4 ft fluorescents started dying, there were few led fixtures in the stores so I installed sockets in the old housings and used regular LED bulbs for several years. They worked well.

10pcs Ceramic Standard Medimun Screw Base Socket E26 E27 Bulb Holders With Wire for Hot Halogen Bulb (E26 10pcs) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VSMFPB9/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[kbuhagiar]

A19 is a bulb shape, it's what is normally used for 40-100w bulbs. E26 or medium base socket is what the screw in socket is called

You are correct...let me rephrase my question:

What is highest lumen-output LED device (not necessarily a bulb) available that fits into a single E26 socket?

 

[alwaysFlOoReD]

Found this at Princess Auto. Pretty sure I've seen up to 20,000 lumens tho.

 

[cybrdyke]

You are correct...let me rephrase my question:

What is highest lumen-output LED device (not necessarily a bulb) available that fits into a single E26 socket?

Unknown. There are just too many to choose from. But, probably a corncob lamp around 10000 lumens +/- . Bigger than that and the base changes to an E39. There's reasons for this.
There are A-style lamps approaching 5000 lumens.
These types of lamps are not ideal for garage lighting because less than half the light is actually directed downward. Also, large points of light create harsh shadows and uneven results. It's far better to use linear lights that direct nearly all the light downward.
To the OP..... no.....no love for standard A19 bulbs to light up a garage.
CD

 

[Bert_]

https://www.northerntool.com/products/stonepoint-led-big-bulb-5000-lumens-25-000-hours-model-yn-bb50-107988

This is about the only high lumen led bulb I've ever been really happy with. I use them in machine sheds a lot

 

[Signing off]

My thought is wise today does not always equal price or value.
Going with a low cost and easily replaced bulb is maybe not ideal lighting, but it might be wise.
He said the options are limited for him. And putting your eggs in a non replaceable fixture puts future issues on the table.
Slap up those E26 and add screw in tri-fold LED bulbs. My 2¢, worth what you paid.

 

[rancherbill]

Curious if anyone is just using cheap keyless lamp sockets and A19 bulbs.

The 10W equivalent is 1600 lumens and $2-4 per bulb at any big box stores. A keyless lamp socket is ~$1-2. Daisy chaining 6 bulbs gives 10,000 lumens for under $20 if you count the wiring and conduit.

Advantage is a bulb can be swapped in seconds. Big boxes would probably take back burnt bulbs as well for exchange.

Is this a bad idea and why?

My whole garage ceiling is that way. The only thing is read the box specs when buying to get ones that will work in the cold. Also make sure to get the right 'temperature', i like a really white light not a warms light.

 

[jblnut]

My thought is wise today does not always equal price or value.
Going with a low cost and easily replaced bulb is maybe not ideal lighting, but it might be wise.
He said the options are limited for him. And putting your eggs in a non replaceable fixture puts future issues on the table.
Slap up those E26 and add screw in tri-fold LED bulbs. My 2¢, worth what you paid.

Beat me to it. I have a few similar to these in various sheds on the farm to replace the good ol' 100w bulbs that have been in there forever. Goodness they are bright and A LOT less expensive than retrofitting something else in there. Screw out old bulb, screw in new surface of the sun bulb and away we go !!!

Like this !!! <- link doesn't want to work .... maybe it will for you. Search Amazon or similar for "Trifold garage light" and you'll have lots of options.

 

[dave*99]

I used some of the logic expressed in this thread when I built my old garage over 10 years ago. I put 8 E26 lamp holders on the ceiling of a 24x28 3 car garage. One bay had a lift and cathedral ceiling. The other 2 bays had a 10' high ceiling. All walls and ceilings were semi gloss white. I figured this approach could evolve as new screw in bulbs became available.

The technology of the day was spiral CFL's. I found some daylight units that consumed 105W each and were equivalent to 550W incandescent. I installed 8. And they were very very bright. So you would think I had "good lighting."

Not good at all. If you looked up, you were practically blinded. If you were under the car on the lift looking up through the engine bay with an open hood, you would catch a glimpse of a CFL and be temporarily blinded.

Bright light is different than good light.

Diffuse light arriving from many angles using a larger number of fixtures makes for good light. Today's cornrow bulbs are worse than the CFL's I used. Shadows and hot spots are your enemy.

I just finished lighting my 24x28 woodshop with 8 LED panel lights. These are 2'x4' Lithonia CPANL units. I can look up into the lights and down onto the table saw top. It's very bright, diffuse, nearly shadow less, and not at all blinding.

My new garage will get rows of LED tubes around the perimeter of the cars as well as front and back. I will use a lighting calculator from one of the light fixture manufacturers as I did in the woodshop. I'll shoot for a design target of 50 foot candles at 36" off the floor. I have some of those tri-fold fixtures in the garage now as a temporary measure, yeah it's bright, but mostly, they serve as a good reminder that I need to install proper lighting.

Reread post #11. CD is a lighting professional whose posts taught me a lot about lighting.

 

[428PI]

I'm using 3 15000 lumens 150 wall led winged bulbs that screw into a regular socket in my shed. Work great so far. Cost 15 bucks apiece at Menards.