no water source in garage: ideas?

[slimpickins]

Field tile - usually refers to the perforated pipe system in a septic field which is laid out in a grid pattern. There can be specific rules in each area depending on soil conditions as to how the field is laid out. This pipe system is where the septic pump out is pumped and it must be designed for the capacity of the plumbing system.

 

[Grinder Bill]

side note: I am considering/researching a driven point well, but thus far local well experts says the soils are not suitable for this. I am only 10-15 feet from the water table, but the soils are clay and silt.

10-15'...? Simple solution is to auger a 12" hole 18' deep and drop in a 12"x20' long section of corrugated culvert. Install a sump pump with either pressure control or an on/off switch.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Can you explain field tile? Is this a septic type design with a perforated pipe and no catch basin? Of course, you wouldn't want to dump chemicals, but gray water would be fine.

Field tile is generally black perforated 4" (6" and larger are available) and put into a farmers field to aid in the drainage of water. This allows fields to drain faster or for wet areas to drain which normally wouldn't and would be unfarmable. Getting a field dry makes the difference when a farmer can get into a field and work ground/plant crops/ harvest crops.

All my spouting drains into tile that run through the yard and empties into the creek. If I had a shop with no available sewer and had a sink to wash my hands, I'd run a tile about 20' out from the shop. I'd end the tile into a drywell, which is basically a hole full of stone.


For those that fly and don't know. If you look out the window while you're flying (not a super high altitude) and see a green field. If you notice dark green lines in the field, that is where the field tile is running.

 

[tomd]

10-15'...? Simple solution is to auger a 12" hole 18' deep and drop in a 12"x20' long section of corrugated culvert. Install a sump pump with either pressure control or an on/off switch.

never thought of this option, thanks. Would you suggest perforated pipe? what about a cap on the (bottom) end? OR just drop a few inches of clear stone into the pipe?

 

[Grinder Bill]

never thought of this option, thanks. Would you suggest perforated pipe? what about a cap on the (bottom) end? OR just drop a few inches of clear stone into the pipe?

Make that call after you hit water; percentage of clay vs sand vs rock will tell you how to complete the well. For a heads up, check with a sign installer in your area; they will know what to expect at 10 - 20'.

edit; conditions in my area tend to be on the sandy side, requiring the use of a properly sized screen. More info here:
http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/wwg408

 

[peter-1959]

i would find a large tank and let your roof water from snow or rain refill it with a small pump in it. if the shop is heated and you have the room put inside, if not put in and insulated encloser outside and if that won't work just bury it below the frost line. Make sure you have a over-flow protection on it so it drains away from the building (big roofs make big amounts of water). good place to look for these tanks is a farm supply store.

 

[1948]

im thinking just a water tower that collects rain water. hell you could even put the tank inside just under the roof and cut a hole to catch the rain water.(have a roofer set it up so it wont leak) if youre worried about the water freezing just put one of them block heater type warmers in there in the winter.

 

[onewaydave]

No water, no drain. Exceptional temps last winter of -19 F but common tempt of 0 to -10 F. I don't heat the shop unless I'm working in there and sometimes I am not there for weeks. Dirty hands have to wait 'till I get to the house. Fridge supplies the drinks. They only freeze in the -19 F range. Suprisingly, it can get to -5F for weeks and not one can will burst.

Dave.

 

[onewaydave]

No water, no drain. Exceptional temps last winter of -19 F but common tempt of 0 to -10 F. I don't heat the shop unless I'm working in there and sometimes I am not there for weeks. Dirty hands have to wait 'till I get to the house. Fridge supplies the drinks. They only freeze in the -19 F range. Surprisingly, it can get to -5F for weeks and not one can will burst.

Dave.

 

[mad57]

Make a cistern either out of concrete or plastic barrels and as stated either bury it in the ground out side your shop or mount it high in the shop with an over flow so if it gets to high it simply drains outside, use your roof with a simple gutter to catch all the water you will ever need, we have a house in the bahamas and have been doing this for over 18 yrs works great. as far as a drain a 55 gl plastic drum cut in half or whole buryed with lots of 3/4 rock around with holes cut in the drum it will drain just fine for years, just no black waste water

 

[hh76]

my current, low tech solution is just a couple of buckets of water for washing my hands. My project for next summer is either to trench over a line, or get one of these tote tanks and mount it up above a utility sink. I'd just run a hose from the house a couple times a year to fill.http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/717/dscf0096o.jpg/