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OK, sorry for the misperception I give to you, let me state this again.

1) I love Snap on Tools. Snap on tools are one of the best out there.

2) I want a variety of tools, some tools can be good substitute especially for guys who are not as rich as you.

Is this clear!


Sorry, Toolglutton, that's the way I see it and I'm sure I'm not alone.
 

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How about y'all just buy whatever the hell you want? If you want Snap-on, buy it. If you don't want Snap-on buy something else. It's all pretty simple. The whole "can't afford it" thing is really a case of patience and where to look among other things. Since my job pays **** and i still manage to afford it, as do many others i know in similar situations (and tax brackets).
 

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How about y'all just buy whatever the hell you want? If you want Snap-on, buy it. If you don't want Snap-on buy something else. It's all pretty simple. The whole "can't afford it" thing is really a case of patience and where to look among other things. Since my job pays **** and i still manage to afford it, as do many others i know in similar situations (and tax brackets).

thats the whole point of this thread! buy whatever we want! ok name some brands that you use along with snapon! oh thanks toolglutton thats what you did in the first place!
 
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How about you stop interrupting our discussion of tools other than Snap on?

This is America. Speech is free. You can talk about Snap on tools. Other people can also talk about other branded tools.


How about y'all just buy whatever the hell you want? If you want Snap-on, buy it. If you don't want Snap-on buy something else. It's all pretty simple. The whole "can't afford it" thing is really a case of patience and where to look among other things. Since my job pays **** and i still manage to afford it, as do many others i know in similar situations (and tax brackets).
 

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How about you stop interrupting our discussion of tools other than Snap on?

This is America. Speech is free. You can talk about Snap on tools. Other people can also talk about other branded tools.

So why bring them up three words into the title? You obviously wanted to stimulate conversation around Snap-on with a direct comparison thread. So why should Moose or anyone refrain from their discussion?
 

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Lots of people on this board have my respect because of their knowledge on tools. They helped me lot in the past. However, sometimes I think some of them are very "young" at least psychologically.

That's fine. I don't give a damn what you think of me, and i'm sure that goes both ways. You can think i'm "very young at least psychologically" I couldn't care less, you don't know a damn thing about me so i take anything you say with a pinch of salt. Well, closer to a whole bag, but you get the point. ;)

thats the whole point of this thread! buy whatever we want! ok name some brands that you use along with snapon! oh thanks toolglutton thats what you did in the first place!

Well, not really. If you can't manage buying what you want without a little push from someone else then maybe you shouldn't be allowed out on the loose with your money.

Do you really need to go buy something you want and then make a thread saying "I bought this, it's not Snap-on but it's just as good!"? We all know a craftsman ratchet will turn a socket just as a Snap-on will. Is it as strong? No. Does it have a smaller arc than a Snap-on one? No. Is it cheaper and essentially does the same job? Yes. But we knew all this before and don't need to be told it.

I've never need to justify any of my purchases, because i bought them for me, so long as i'm happy with them that's all that matters. If i can't afford something, i don't buy it. I'll either go without or buy something else, but can do so without needing someone else to tell me "yeah, that'll work just fine!"

Maybe this is more about independace than it is about tools? :headscrat
 
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Is there anything wrong to use Snap on as a metaphor of the best tools?


So why bring them up three words into the title? You obviously wanted to stimulate conversation around Snap-on with a direct comparison thread. So why should Moose or anyone refrain from their discussion?
 
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GROUP HUG!!!!
Now what everyone needs are more WRIGHTTOOLS!!!

How's that for stirring the ole' crock of s%@t:bounce:

Man this gets more fun with every thread....:lol_hitti

Richard(TR TOOL SUPPLY)we sell,you guessed it"WRIGHT"tools
 

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Is there something wrong to use Snap on as a metaphor of the best tools?

My head is beginning to spin.:willy_nil I must admit in all my "between the line reading" I didn't catch the metaphor. I was under the assumption that you actually meant Snap-on. That gives that whole thread a new meaning to me.:wtf:
 
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Proto, Hazet, PB Swiss, some Craftsman Pro, Knipex, some KD/Armstrong/Gearwrench(lump it into Danaher group),etc...

I am almost done selling off all my SO tools, bad service over the years was the biggest factor, not so much the tools...too many b.s. games
 

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Again, a guy starts a thread and a couple of members make **** chili out of it. I respond in Snap-on treads with respect, or a single subtle humor post or don't reply at all,and leave it alone...How many Snap-on ratchet threads do I see everyday, do I beat up on the guy for it, no!

I used to be 100% SO, the reason you whine is because you have to believe you received the greatest for your large money investment. How dare anyone say the tools are not the finest, when you put your bag over a torch, to pay for the stuff. When someone else is smart enough to duck, you cry they can't afford it, or you think you become omnificent and think you know what anothers underlying meaning is,etc...

Say your peace an move on, pages and pages of your b.s. is not necessary.:fawk:
 

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Again, a guy starts a thread and a couple of members make **** chili out of it. I respond in Snap-on treads with respect, or a single subtle humor post or don't reply at all,and leave it alone...How many Snap-on ratchet threads do I see everyday, do I beat up on the guy for it, no!

I used to be 100% SO, the reason you whine is because you have to believe you received the greatest for your large money investment. How dare anyone say the tools are not the finest, when you put your bag over a torch, to pay for the stuff. When someone else is smart enough to duck, you cry they can't afford it, or you think you become omnificent and think you know what anothers underlying meaning is,etc...

Say your peace an move on, pages and pages of your b.s. is not necessary.:fawk:

X2!!! :thumbup:
 

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There's nothing open-minded about these threads, they're about Snap-on bashing and bitchy whining. If you can't afford Snap-on, tough ****. If you don't like Snap-on buy something else.

How about y'all who love Snap-on bashing grow a pair and then grow up an quit whining. We all know there are other brands out there, we all know there are other options out there.

Lighten up Moose - you get a much better smile/post ratio with this type of thread than you do with some of the more technical ones. :) :thumbup:
 
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Thank you for the sympathy. :beer:

I'm accused of bashing Snap on without any evidence, only because they "read between the lines" in a very wrong way.

Some people are pro-Snap on, others are pro-choice. I do not see this as a big difference. Both of them could love Snap on, right? :bounce:

Peace!!!


Again, a guy starts a thread and a couple of members make **** chili out of it. I respond in Snap-on treads with respect, or a single subtle humor post or don't reply at all,and leave it alone...How many Snap-on ratchet threads do I see everyday, do I beat up on the guy for it, no!

I used to be 100% SO, the reason you whine is because you have to believe you received the greatest for your large money investment. How dare anyone say the tools are not the finest, when you put your bag over a torch, to pay for the stuff. When someone else is smart enough to duck, you cry they can't afford it, or you think you become omnificent and think you know what anothers underlying meaning is,etc...

Say your peace an move on, pages and pages of your b.s. is not necessary.:fawk:
 

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Again, a guy starts a thread and a couple of members make **** chili out of it. I respond in Snap-on treads with respect, or a single subtle humor post or don't reply at all,and leave it alone...How many Snap-on ratchet threads do I see everyday, do I beat up on the guy for it, no!

I used to be 100% SO, the reason you whine is because you have to believe you received the greatest for your large money investment. How dare anyone say the tools are not the finest, when you put your bag over a torch, to pay for the stuff. When someone else is smart enough to duck, you cry they can't afford it, or you think you become omnificent and think you know what anothers underlying meaning is,etc...

Say your peace an move on, pages and pages of your b.s. is not necessary.:fawk:

I agree with most of what you said and somewhat regret getting involved in this thread and in retrospect wish I hadn't, but this is just another hypocritical Snap-on thread in a whole series of the same type. These threads are almost without exception related to complaining about Snap-on prices and then turning around and asking for recommendations on which SO tool to buy and then buying another brand and then telling everyone how much better it is than Snap-on. It wears a little thin sometimes.

PS: I wouldn't be so ignorant as to give you the finger.
 

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wow, glad i went to church and missed this one this morning. i may have been tempted to brag up some of my second tier tools. that being said the first tier tool guys do get their ******* in a wad if you even use that "name" as a comparison to any other brand. it seems like the wagons got circled, but the attack was not imininent. maybe they should stay on the trail until they get attacked. i can understand them being jumpy though as they have been attacked a little hard lately.
 

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I agree with most of what you said and somewhat regret getting involved in this thread and in retrospect wish I hadn't, but this is just another hypocritical Snap-on thread in a whole series of the same type. These threads are almost without exception related to complaining about Snap-on prices and then turning around and asking for recommendations on which SO tool to buy and then buying another brand and then telling everyone how much better it is than Snap-on. It wears a little thin sometimes.

PS: I wouldn't be so ignorant as to give you the finger.

My dismay with all truck tools is this...Next time you are on a tool truck, pick up a ratcheting wrench, does it look better than a Gearwrench brand? They are even made in the same place in most cases. Alot of the new tools share Taiwan guts in the ratchets. Cornwell sells Northern tool quality re-labels, as does SO, some labeled Blue Point, now days alot labeled SO. Matco vs. Craftsman Pro, MAC a total Asian re-label company, at premium prices. The line between truck tools and "regular" tools is a blur.
 

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Dexter did I give you the finger? or was it Moose? You guys were talking about reading between the lines, so it seemed fitting.
 

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I am a Newbie here. I have not seen any of the Snap-On threads. So most of this arguement has nothing to do with me, and I have no intrest in it.

With that said... I own some snappy boxes at work(Mac at home) and those are filled with quite array of brands, most are Premium. I believe in buying a tool once and be done. I have and have had enough money to by all Snap-On. But that's not what I do. If I see a tool to be fit for the job, Made in the US (as much as possible-this not always possible)and has been built to the correct parameters for my usage... I buy it. I use it. and I never get rid of it. If I can buy it used I will. I don't believe that buying it new will make a better set of tools. It is what it is. No matter the label on it. Reading between the lines... I believe that This is what this Thread was reallystarted for. I have no problem with that.

I Propose the personal differences be dropped and get back to the jist of this.


I also like the Mayhew bars. the set I have have been abused for 10 years and work better than my Matco's.

Matco security torx set with 1/4 and 3/8 drive adapters have worked pretty good.

I love my new wilton vise on my box at work

More to come.. have to take a call.
 

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I made a list of all the people who fell victim to another ToolGlutton thread. May you all rest in peace. :( :lol:
 

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not a victim here, just open and honest... the real victims are the ones that have been reading through 4 pages of b.s. to see 6-8 posts of honesty...

I am not one to jump in the middle , but I do value others input on certain tools that I am unfamiliar with... I am 38 years old, only been wrenching for a living 1year and 2 months. the majority of my tools are craftsman, napa, wright, popular mechanics, benchtop and what ever else i came across for my hobby(in past) of wrenching...is there anything wrong with my tools? yes and no.... a year and a 1/2 ago I woulod have said they are great.... over the last year, I have learned a lot of short falls in some of my tools, at same time many have more than done the job they were designed for... since i just started wrenching professionaly, i did miss the chance of getting the super snap on/mac student discounts... yes i would buy them...... at current, i am purchassing better tools for work and bringing other home for the garage... so when i can purchase a tool for a good price wether it is a pawn shop, ebay or on here.... I do also buy something off the trucks regularly but the need for some tools quickly is finding me to do more research on other brands that can fill a void untill I can get the one i would really like... heck i just bought my first snap on ratchet 3 weeks ago... it was a used one from the snap on truck...... basicly i am on a budget for my tools...and yes it is frequently over spent. for the most part i will use a tool until it breaks or does not work correctly...

now that I have had my short rant, i will see how many more pages of this thread I get to read...lol

another quick note... i do appreciate the valuble input i read in most threads especialy when they are item specific... after all why by an item if it has a good chance of breaking soon or not working the way you want it to...ALL manufacturers have some items that fall into that catagory...

anyway, thanks for listening to me
 

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I stand by by arm chair psychiatric analysis of these types of threads and those who constantly perpetuate them.


as a neophyte, i find this very informative. i have enough years in the building trades to separate the **** from shinola and now, because the Garage Forum has helped educate me as a consumer, when i buy something i will be getting the best value i can afford.
 
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