Bull, getting sheet rock and insulation done on the inside now, the walls are 12' 6' - so i could step up 5' to a platform and walk across the deck, into the house. Also used 12/12 attic trusses, so there is a 14' X 30' room above. I check out the forums before I work, to get ideas like the arched doors and stone... I am really diggin' E-Tek's lift idea, God knows I have the ceilings for it !! NT - yeah, mud rooms (especially this time of year) are one of things you just kinda' need.