NORSEMAN drill group buy

[PT Doc]

Since there has been interest in the Norseman drill sets and since some of you are new to the forum or missed out on the last buy, I have asked Patrick to put together another deal for us. You asked for it and here are the final details of this Norseman deal:

No limits on specific items; buy what you want as much as you want. ALL Norseman items are available to you. No restrictions.

If you want a Norseman item that is not listed, call Patrick or email him with part numbers and he will get pricing for you. This buy starts tomorrow but you can email Patrick today if you want.

Norseman products are proudly manufactured in the USA!

Patrick's information:
Patrick Cook
704-219-2113
[email protected]

Call or email Patrick to put an order order through or to get pricing.
Shipping prices:

$1-199.99: $8.00 Shipping! Lower 48 stated only. Outside of lower 48: shipping will be Patrick's actual cost.

Above $200.00: FREE SHIPPING! Lower 48 stated only. Outside of lower 48: shipping will be Patrick's actual cost.

Free with the first 10 orders:
One bottle of Norseman Ultra Lube High Performance Cutting Tool Lubricant, 4oz
http://iscsupplies.com/index.php/no...formance-cutting-tool-lubricant-16oz-btl.html

Norseman Catalog: (click on this link but give it time to download-its a large PDF so give it time to download-could take a few minutes based on connection speed)
http://norsemandrill.com/pdf/prdCATNor.pdf


Here is pricing on the sets that were requested during the last group buy:

66490 75.00

66850 89.00

23560 68.00

01931 78.00

43550 175.00

66820 86.00 <=My recommendation as THE BEST SET FOR MECHANICS!

66480 87.00

93840 235.00

58510 40.00

87859 270.00

87652 49.00

68400 135.00

61680 465.00

69280 317.00

29571 268.00

19669 77.00

19649 112.00

19639 112.00

19629 115.00

19619 128.00

19609 125.00

57920 105.00

44170 84.00

43520 62.00

44150 84.00

Links to above listed sets:
The links below were put together by danielzig so that those that are unfamiliar with some sets can at them this way.

Links to above listed sets:
The links below were put together by danielzig so that those that are unfamiliar with some sets can at them this way.

Norseman 66490 - $75.00
29 Piece Stub Length Fractional Drill Bit Set with Metal Case
http://www.fastenal.com/web/product...pcode=&filterByStore=&filterByVendingMachine=

Norseman 66850 - $89.00
26Pc A-Z 135[DEG] Split Point Magnum Super Premium B&G HSS Machine Drill Set
http://www.fastenal.com/web/product...pcode=&filterByStore=&filterByVendingMachine=

Norseman 23560 - $68.00
60 Piece #1 - #60 Hi-Moly 135[DEG] Split Pt Black & Gold Mechanics Drill Set
http://www.fastenal.com/web/product...pcode=&filterByStore=&filterByVendingMachine=

Norseman 01931 - $78.00
Step Drills, Type 78-AG, Ultra Bit™, Multi-Diameter, Step Drill 3-Flats on Shank, 1/8 - 1-1/8"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Norseman-Uni...-/171193847518

Norseman 43550 -$175.00
115 Piece 1/16"-1/2", #1-#60, Ltr A-Z HSS 118[DEG] Bright Fin. Jobber Drill Set
http://www.fastenal.com/web/product...pcode=&filterByStore=&filterByVendingMachine=

Norseman 66820 - $86.00
29 Piece 1/16"-1/2" x 64ths w/3-Flats Hi-Moly 135[DEG] Split Pt Mech. Drill Set
http://www.fastenal.com/web/product...pcode=&filterByStore=&filterByVendingMachine=

Norseman 66480 -$87.00
29 Piece 1/16" - 1/2" x 64ths Hi-Moly 135[DEG] Split Pt B/G Mechanics Drill Set
http://www.fastenal.com/web/product...pcode=&filterByStore=&filterByVendingMachine=

Norseman 93840 -$235.00
115 Piece 1/16"-1/2", #1-#60, Ltr A-Z Hi-Moly 135[DEG] Split Pt Job. Drill Set
http://www.fastenal.com/web/product...pcode=&filterByStore=&filterByVendingMachine=

Norseman 58510 - $40.00
10 Piece 5 Drills, 5 Bolt Extractors Hi-Carbon Steel Screw/Bolt Extractor Set
http://www.fastenal.com/web/product...pcode=&filterByStore=&filterByVendingMachine=

Norseman 87859 - $270.00
29Pc Ultra Dex 1/16" - 1/2" x 64th 135[DEG] Split Pt Hi-Moly Left Hand Drill Set
http://www.fastenal.com/web/product...pcode=&filterByStore=&filterByVendingMachine=

Norseman 87652 - $49.00
13 Piece 1/16" - 1/4" x 64ths Hi-Moly 135[DEG] Split Pt Lft Hnd Jobber Drill Set
http://www.fastenal.com/web/product...pcode=&filterByStore=&filterByVendingMachine=

Norseman 68400 - $135.00
29 Piece 1/16"-1/2" x 64 ths Cobalt 135[DEG] Split Pt Gold Fin. Jobber Drill Set
http://www.fastenal.com/web/product...pcode=&filterByStore=&filterByVendingMachine=

Norseman 61680 - $465.00
Norseman Tap & Die Set, Tap Type: Hand, Pipe (Straight Flute), Tap Type: Hand, Pipe (Straight Flute), Die Shape: Hex
https://www.motionindustries.com/mo...ding+Tools>Tap+Sets+&+Die+Sets>Tap+&+Die+Sets

Norseman 69280- $317.00
115 Piece All In One Cobalt 135[DEG] Split Point Gold Finish Jobber Drill Set
http://www.fastenal.com/web/product...pcode=&filterByStore=&filterByVendingMachine=

Norseman 29571- $268.00
8Pc 9/16" to 1" x 1/2" Shank 135[DEG] Split Pt M42 Cobalt Type 130-D Silver & Demming
http://www.fastenal.com/web/product...pcode=&filterByStore=&filterByVendingMachine=

If you frequent other forums where folks could benefit from this deal, feel free to post the link to this thread.

I am really happy that Patrick was willing to put this offer together for us Garage Journal members again. Thanks

 

[PT Doc]

If you want a Norseman item that is not listed, call Patrick or email him with part numbers and he will get pricing for you. This buy starts tomorrow but you can email Patrick today if you want.

 

[Harrison2]

any updates on that williams buy?

 

[PT Doc]

any updates on that williams buy?

For now no.

Let's keep this this just norseman related. Thanks

 

[PT Doc]

"Pricing is good through July 7, 2014. This deal begins on Monday June 23, 2014."

Dates?

It's been corrected. Deal starts tomorrow.

 

[PT Doc]

For you guys that want more info and feedback, check out the previous 2 Norseman group buys that took place over the past months.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=251853&highlight=Norseman

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239330&highlight=Norseman

If you have any questions, call or email Patrick.

 

[PT Doc]

I have been asked many times about the Norseman black and gold bits and also cobalt bits. This is from norseman marketing info.

Magnum™ Drills & Super Premium Cutting Tools

Welcome to the world of Magnum Super Premium twist drills. This page will provide you with the opportunity to review the many features and benefits of Magnum drills and to learn why they are the finest tools available for most drilling applications. These heavy duty drills are recommended for use in tough metal drilling applications and work hardening grades of stainless steel.

Why Choose Magnum™?

Substantially longer cutting life - The nitro-carburized flute has an increased Rockwell hardness.

Cuts harder materials - The flatter point takes a smaller chip. More torque is directed to a smaller area. This allows drilling into materials with hardness of over 30 on the Rockwell "C" scale.

Stops drill walking - The split point design gives accurate starting without the use of a center punch.

Holds tighter hole size - The split point design is self centering. This limits the normal oversize drilling characteristics.

Outstanding quality appearance - The rich amber gold color sets it apart from commodity cutting tools.

Runs cooler, uses less torque - 135° point takes a smaller chip resulting in less heat. Friction is reduced by amber gold surface treatment.

Stops chuck slippage - Flats on drill shanks allow easy positive chuck grip.
(Flats are machined only on Mechanics Length drill bits & Silver & Deming drill bits, not on jobber length drill bits.)

Magnum™ Vs. Cobalt

The Magnum™ drills will substantially outperform cobalt drills in work hardening stainless steel applications. This performance advantage is the result of construction differences between the two types of drills. Cobalt drills, manufactured to Type J NAS 907 specs, have a very thick web. This web is necessary to limit breakage of the brittle cobalt steel. Magnum drills are made of special hi-moly tool steel, which is much tougher than cobalt steel. The web on a Magnum drill can be thinned considerably due to the toughness of the steel. (See Illustration A)

A Magnum drill with its thin web will penetrate the work hardening stainless fast enough to continually cut beneath the chip which is hardening from deformation. This means the drill is cutting softer steel.

The cobalt drill, with its thick web, cannot be fed at a fast enough rate to cut beneath the area which is hardening. As a result the cobalt drill is continually drilling into hardened steel.

 

[neonlazer]

Sadly drained my account on SK day. Haven't broken any of my two sets yet.

#43520
#44150

 

[bmw wrench]

I got in on the last group buy, I will never use Home Depot or lowes bits again. They are great.

 

[Jawn]

I wish they had a HSS 135 degree, screw machine length, 115 piece set.

 

[FMC1959]

I wish they had a HSS 135 degree, screw machine length, 115 piece set.

"If you want a Norseman item that is not listed, call Patrick or email him with part numbers and he will get pricing for you. This buy starts tomorrow but you can email Patrick today if you want."

 

[Jawn]

"If you want a Norseman item that is not listed, call Patrick or email him with part numbers and he will get pricing for you. This buy starts tomorrow but you can email Patrick today if you want."

That would only help if there was a part number for it. I've looked for such a set in their catalog, doesn't look like they make such a set.

 

[PT Doc]

I wish they had a HSS 135 degree, screw machine length, 115 piece set.

I wanted the same and ordered the first three sets listed. I didn't want to deal with the one large case since I never need all 3 sets out at once. I did that since buying a 115 case would cost only $15 if I wanted to go that way after the fact. And I dont.

Get with Patrick and tell him you want those 3 and you'll be happy.

 

[gte718p]

I'm going to order, but any chance I can get an education on the HHS vs Cobalt vs HiMoly vs Magnum?

 

[ipp]

I'm going to order, but any chance I can get an education on the HHS vs Cobalt vs HiMoly vs Magnum?

Yeah...

It would be awesome if one set just said "Best seller for an auto mechanic" or for a wood worker, etc.

I don't generally drill anything beyond automotive cast iron/sheet metal and have used cheapo sets from HD for a while. I know I want a nice set - but what angle? What metal type? Any other considerations for which bits to buy?

I love to do research but this one is a real challenge to look up.

In the end, TAKE MY MONEY but point me in the right direction otherwise ill continue to buy $10 sets of bits.

 

[PT Doc]

magnum is hi moly. cobalt is very hard but brittle and it's used for very hard steel. not needed for most folks. these are all hss and not carbon steel. hope this helps.

Magnum™ Vs. Cobalt

The Magnum™ drills will substantially outperform cobalt drills in work hardening stainless steel applications. This performance advantage is the result of construction differences between the two types of drills. Cobalt drills, manufactured to Type J NAS 907 specs, have a very thick web. This web is necessary to limit breakage of the brittle cobalt steel. Magnum drills are made of special hi-moly tool steel, which is much tougher than cobalt steel. The web on a Magnum drill can be thinned considerably due to the toughness of the steel. (See Illustration A)A Magnum drill with its thin web will penetrate the work hardening stainless fast enough to continually cut beneath the chip which is hardening from deformation. This means the drill is cutting softer steel.The cobalt drill, with its thick web, cannot be fed at a fast enough rate to cut beneath the area which is hardening. As a result the cobalt drill is continually drilling into hardened steel.

I'm going to order, but any chance I can get an education on the HHS vs Cobalt vs HiMoly vs Magnum?

 

[PT Doc]

Here is a bit more I for from Wikipedia showing the difference between the various HSS.

M2
M2 is molybdenum based high-speed steel in tungsten–molybdenum series. The carbides in it are small and evenly distributed. It has high wear resistance. After heat treatment, its hardness is the same as T1, but its bending strength can reach 4700 MPa, and its toughness and thermo-plasticity are higher than T1 by 50%. It is usually used to manufacture a variety of tools, such as drill bits, taps and reamers. Its decarburization sensitivity is a little bit high.[9]

M36
M36 is similar to M2, but with 8% cobalt added. The addition of cobalt increases heat resistance. M36 is also known as HSSE or HSS-E.

M42
M42 is a molybdenum-series high-speed steel alloy with an additional 8% cobalt. It is widely used in metal manufacturing because of its superior red-hardness as compared to more conventional high-speed steels, allowing for shorter cycle times in production environments due to higher cutting speeds or from the increase in time between tool changes. M42 is also less prone to chipping when used for interrupted cuts and costs less when compared to the same tool made of carbide. Tools made from cobalt-bearing high speed steels can often be identified by the letters HSS-Co.

If you guys have any more questions after reading the previous 2 group buy threads, post them here. We will chime in. Over the years I have learned quite a bit about bit selection based on material, speeds and feeds, use of cutting fluid, drill sharpening.

 

[PT Doc]

Yeah...

It would be awesome if one set just said "Best seller for an auto mechanic" or for a wood worker, etc.

I don't generally drill anything beyond automotive cast iron/sheet metal and have used cheapo sets from HD for a while. I know I want a nice set - but what angle? What metal type? Any other considerations for which bits to buy?

I love to do research but this one is a real challenge to look up.

In the end, TAKE MY MONEY but point me in the right direction otherwise ill continue to buy $10 sets of bits.

IPP,

I would recommend this set

Norseman 66820 - $86.00
29 Piece 1/16"-1/2" x 64ths w/3-Flats Hi-Moly 135[DEG] Split Pt Mech. Drill Set

This has three flats that will work great with a hand drill, is 135 degrees with split point for good engagement and less chance of walking, has reduced length bits to get into tighter places and comes in a non metal case that should be great for those that might be hard on equipment.

This is my recommendation as THE BEST SET FOR MECHANICS.

Another option is 57950. This is the same set as the above, but with all the shanks being 3/8". If you drill can handle 1/2" shank then go with the above. If it can't, then this would work. Download the catalog and verify the specs prior to ordering just to make sure everything is correct. They offer so many sets and it can be a bit confusing.

 

[sb7979]

Yeah...

It would be awesome if one set just said "Best seller for an auto mechanic" or for a wood worker, etc.

I just ordered a 42031 (14Pc 5/64" - 3/16" x 64ths + 7/32" + 1/4" - 1/2" x 1/16" Burrout™ Drill Set) brad point set, that I would think is a good choice for woodworking.

I also ordered a 66490 (29Pc 1/16"-1/2" x 1/64" Hi-Moly 135° Split Pt B&G Screw Machine Length Drill Set) set for general fab projects around the house.

Patrick seems very friendly, knowledgable, and willing to help.


FYI, if you follow some of the Fastenal links above the pictures they use could be wrong.

 

[Rickss96]

I second PT Doc's recommendation of the 66820, for his first two reasons. 3 flats should eliminate any slipping in a hand drill. Split point for easier starting and maybe I won't need a pilot hole where the location isn't critical. Good steel too, so they will last quite awhile before sharpening.

This was my choice in the last group buy and this was after reviewing user comments here on the Garage Journal and several other sites. Consensus is these drills are excellent quality and hold up well.

 

[PT Doc]

To clarify on the various lengths offered in the drill bits:

When I was looking into what length to get, I used the 1/2" as the point of comparison. I think the results were as follows:

jobber length 6" long
mechanics length 5"
screw machine 4"

For increased rigidity and likely a hole that ends up where you want it, the screw machine length are recommended. Reading up on various machining forums helped me decide this. Having some jobber length drills are needed if you need deeper hole drilling capabilities. But having started with the screw machine and following with the jobber allows me to get better hole placement.

These options along with different drill materials, point angles, shank diameters and storage case types makes the combinations quite high. But its nice to have options.

 

[PT Doc]

This deal will run through next Friday, October 17 at 4:30 PM EST. Please don't wait till the last day at 4:30 to place the order. I'm sure Patrick would appreciate getting things squared away a bit sooner than that.

 

[PT Doc]

I've been reading some threads about folks buying carbon taps. Please do yourself a favor and buy HSS spiral point taps. These can be used when hand tapping, tapping under power on the drill press or mill or in a hand held drill. Since these shoot the chips forward they work great on through holes. If tapping a blind hole, you can drill deeper and leave an area for the chips to go or just back it out and blow the chips out. If you have a shallow blind hole then the spiral point is not the best option. At that point, use a spiral flute tap and this style will result in the chips coming out like a drill would.

If you need some clarification or have questions, post them here. There are no stupid questions and we all were newbies at one time.

 

[BlackjackNA]

Yes, I will probably invest in this tap and die set next time around, because of its HSS content. Has anyone, however, used the "nitro-carburized" 5 pc. Drill / 5 pc bolt extractor set?

 

[doctordirt]

Just wanted to take a minute and thank PT Doc for his efforts. I will be placing an order this week.

 

[PT Doc]

Just wanted to take a minute and thank PT Doc for his efforts. I will be placing an order this week.

You're welcome! You will be pleased with the drills you get. I need to get a few more sets.

 

[PT Doc]

This is just a reminder, the deals ends this Friday at 4:30 est. If you have drills, sets, extractors, carbide burrs that you need, then getting them now will save you some bucks. There will not be another Norseman deal like this in 2014 and not likely in early 2015.

 

[8comm13]

I placed my order with Patrick today, great guy to deal with. Can't wait to get and try them out. Thank you Patrick and thank you PT Doc for all your time and effort in this.

 

[PT Doc]

This deal ends tomorrow!

This deal will not be offered again anytime soon.

Get your orders in and get ready to smile as you drill through steel like its refrigerated butter?

 

[Spinnacak]

Order placed before the cutoff. Thanks for the sweet deal on what appear to be premium tools.

 

[Frank-D-Tank]

Ordered mine yesterday. Wanted to order more, but funds are a little tight right now.

Thanks PT!

 

[BlackjackNA]

My third order of twisties were ordered earlier in week. Yahoo!....

(99 bottles of beer on the wall, 99 bottles of beer...)

 

[PT Doc]

You guys will love the drills and the HUOT indexes. Post back after poking some holes it whatever you poke holes in. Thanks

 

[sb7979]

Got my drills today....I was making so many ooohs and aaahs and other noises that my wife asked if I wanted to be alone with them.

Thanks to Patrick and Doc for making this happen.

 

[PT Doc]

Fractional screw machine Magnum and brad point fractional Magnum? Very nice.

Let me know what you think of the cutting fluid. I have never tried it.

 

[chrismenke]

Missed it...drat.

 

[66dave]

I wish this was still going as I missed it this round. The bits are very high quality.

That cutting fluid is nice, but I prefer BoeLube. The later is more of a Teflon gel that sicks a bit to the bits, where the cutting fluid is a thin oil product.

http://www.boelube.com.au/boelube_products.html

 

[sb7979]

Fractional screw machine Magnum and brad point fractional Magnum? Very nice.

Let me know what you think of the cutting fluid. I have never tried it.

That's right. #66490 and #42031.

...That cutting fluid is nice.....

It is nice, considering that Patrick threw it in no charge.

 

[PT Doc]

Lewis Wolfe please call Patrick regarding your order.

I have tried to look you up based on your address but I can't seem to find you.

Thanks

 

[Cynical]

So, bringing this back to see if anyone is interested in doing another group buy?