Not Garage...but building question

[Kinyocase]

I have been remodeling a 1984 Mobile home and made a big error a couple months back while siding the exterior. Looking for any help some of you may have in this predicament.

This image contains a question. I made a mistake and neglected to frame in for the bedroom window where the insulation is missing. The window will span just shy of the opening, and over half the height. Now most of the windows I house wrapped the studs and placed the windows in the frames followed by taping and covering with the siding.

For this window I will have to cut out the siding and determine the best way to frame it in. If anybody has any recommendations for this big mistake please feel free to share.

Kinyocase

 

[Doug B]

what kind of siding?What kind of windows? Pics of the outside would help.

 

[Notgrownup]

First buy the window, get the rough in dimension, frame the hole, make sure to put a header, the rest will depend on if the J channel is built in the window or not. You will have to cut the siding pretty close and either wedge it in the built in J channel or carefully install J channel around the window.... If this sounds too much to do then call a pro.

 

[Wingnut65]

A window would be framed just like the door on the right. Cripple studs supporting a lintel beam for the header. The sill will be set with two more cripple studs and your middle stud to maintain stud spacing.

Cut a square out of the house wrap much smaller than the window opening so there is enough for wrapping and flashing around the window.

 

[volleyball]

You will have to remove siding to do this. If it is installed to where you cannot, very wide trim can be used to cover the space.
There is rolls of tape designed to seal around doors and windows. And you have the wrap that you haven't cut yet.

 

[sean Buick 76]

I pooped in the garage

 

[Kinyocase]

The exterior siding is LP Smart Siding installed with Galvanized ring shank nails. Will be almost impossible to pull the siding off. I understand how to frame the window in. I guess I misworded my question. I already have the window it is an insulated vinyl window with nailing flange on all four sides. If I can not pull the siding off I assume my best route will be to cut out my rough opening within the siding. Cut my header space out of the studs above, and follow through with lots of window putty and silicone to install the window outside of the siding?

[Edited for exterior image]

 

[bczygan]

I see no reason that you couldn't remove the siding, necessary to frame and install this window.

Working from the inside, with a large thin pry bar, or better yet, using 2 or three of them, gently and carefully work your way along, until the boards or panels can be removed.

It will take a while. Then you will have to carefully push the nails back out enough so that the panel will lay flat for re-nailing after the window is installed. You will also need to re-cut the panels or boards for the window opening.

If you ruin one, are additional ones available, along with the paint to match?

 

[volleyball]

Cut the siding to the size of the window and the trim. Be sure to cut shallow enough to no go through behind the siding. then cut window opening. Install window, flash with flashing tape bottom, sides and top in that order. cover with trim. Caulk

 

[bmxdad]

Frame it first then cut siding out with a saws all. Cut the flashing/nail tab off the window and screw it in through the sides. As long as the bottom frame member is level the sides and top can be shimmed to keep the screws from tweaking the frame.

We did it that way when I was upgrading older homes with newer windows.

 

[rancherbill]

It's time to pay for a mistake. There is no way to install the windows without mickey mousing around. You are spending time and money on the renovation and you may as well do it right.

Take the siding off. Grind off the heads of the ring nails or rip the sheet off. I am doing a small job with similar material and they are about $40 each.

 

[Kinyocase]

Okay, I think I am in agreement with what most are saying here. I will go ahead and pull the Smart Siding off. The only real dilemma is that the nailing flange on either end of the board overlaps/under laps the preceding and consecutive board. I would really rather have this done right then done half arsed with putty and silicone. I'll get to work pulling that piece of siding off on Friday and frame in my window. Thank you guys for the input. I will post follow up pictures friday evening.

 

[Notgrownup]

Duck tape, lots of it.... will seal a hole... almost matches everything too...

 

[Falcon67]

Go see if you can find a window from the same MFG that does not have the nailing flange. Or, see if you can cut the flange off the window. This is how replacement windows in brick homes are done - there's no nailing flange, they are attached with screws through the side frame. You could possible cut the nailing flange off the existing window and frame the window tight so all you need it a bit of caulk. This is obvious not ideal for a really good seal with a vapor barrier around the window. Alternatively, LP Smart Side is not that expensive compared to the overall cost of the remodel - rip it off and re-do, just eat it and go on.

 

[Pluribus]

Here's how I'd approach it, since I don't like losing the nail fin.

1. Cut window opening.
2. Set circular saw depth to siding thickness and cut siding (only) from outside in a rectangle a few inches bigger than window opening. If you're lucky, you can pry up the siding just enough to slip a thin shim between the siding and the tarpaper/tyvek to space the siding up away from it to avoid tearing it with the circular saw.
3. Lap vapor barrier, tape, flashing, etc. appropriately.
4. Add 1-by trim around window.
5. If having everything match is important, add trim around other windows/doors.

 

[Kevin54]

Cut the opening larger by 3 1/2" on both sides and the top and bottom. Put in the proper 2x4's to put the window in like you normally would. Slip your flashing in at the top, add some flashing in at the bottom, seal all around the window, then add some 1"x4" trim around the window to picture frame it. After it's in, caulk all around to seal it.

 

[Chaz]

Frame the opening on the inside, and cut the siding from the outside with a router with a 1/2 inch bearing bit. . The outside hole will be the same size as the framing. Or do I not understand the question?