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But, I just bought a 3/8" drive 5/32, 3/16, 7/32, 4mm, 5mm, 6mm shallow socket from Lowes.
 
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If you don't have a nut driver set they might come in handy. For those sizes I almost always use the nut drivers though.
 

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It obvously depends on what you work on, but I have used a 6mm on the odd
hose clamp, 4, 5 and 5.5mm will crop up on interior fixtures and some electronics.

If you work on an Oil Rig... Then, No.... Probably not so practical... :D
 

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They fill the pegs on my kobalt trays... now, if I could only find 5/8 and 1/8 deep and shallow for 1/4 drive..
 

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They fill the pegs on my kobalt trays... now, if I could only find 5/8 and 1/8 deep and shallow for 1/4 drive..

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Marketing must have really been thinking when they made those trays.
 

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Haha.... Yes, I've only just noticed the 3/8" in the OP's OP :lol:

My 3/8" sockets go down to 6mm...... I've never used it.
Anything below 10mm has always had the 1/4" treatment so far.

I can imagine why anyone would use a 3/8" 4mm socket... :eek2:
Those trays are a nightmare.
 

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yeah most 3/8" sets stop at 10mm anyway... I have a 6mm and 8mm shallow because they came with a lot of random stuff that I bought mainly to get extensions; I'm trying to see a need for them though. I just carry a 1/4" spinner handle and my sockets rather than a set of nutdrivers, takes less space that way and the handle doubles as an extension.
 
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I have 1/4" drive in those sizes, shallow and deep.

I happened to be looking to see what other sizes they had, and saw those. I think they were less than $2 each, so I got them.

I also got a 1/4" drive 4.5mm deep socket.
 

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I brought a 3/8 impact set that went from 7-22mm, when I sae the supplier also made a 6mm in short and deep I had to get them just to complete my set. I personally have yet to come across a fastener smaller than 8mm besides hose clamps but I have worked on engines that need a 3mm for the rocker arm/tappets
 
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Are there advantages to the 3/8" drive vs the 1/4" drive for bolts this small? I've used my 5.5mm on dash screws, but with 1/4" drive.

Tractor Supply had an adapter that went from 1/2" to 1/4" drive in a kit up front...
 

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personally if a bolt has that smaller head then it's not going to be subject to that much strain so it's never going to be tighter than a 1/4 is capable if undoing , however I do have a 1/4 - 3/8 adapter if I ever needed.

I've always wanted a 1/4-1/2 adapter simply because wtf?!
 

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I don't think so; I doubt that you'll find a fastener that is significantly stronger than the steel that the drive of your ratchet or breaker bar is made of. therefore there's not much need for a 3/8" (9.525mm) drive socket for smaller than that required for a 9mm fastener - in practice that would be 10mm, or 12 or 13mm head size. If you're working on a job with a lot of different sized fasteners and only want to carry one drive tool, then carrying smaller sizes of socket makes sense, but the normal cutoff of 10mm for a 3/8" set seems sensible.

Now I've definitely broken 3/8" drive tools when trying to loosen stuff on 12mm bolts... e.g. stuck lug nuts, only turbo socket that I had available was 3/8" drive, the 1/2" to 3/8" adapter twisted like cheese when I put the breaker bar on it...
 
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:lol:

Marketing must have really been thinking when they made those trays.

Not really lol. Lowes don't sell the sizes I "need. And Hansen don't make sockets. But really 6mm deep and shallow for 3/8? And 5/8 for 1/4? 10mm for half?

With someone who has some space to spare in my box, I love my trays... all 11 of them.
 

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I'd say that was more down to poor quality adapter socket, I've removed 19mm suspension bolts with a 3/8 socket and adapter on a 1/2 bar, they were snap on
 

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I have all those small sizes just to complete some sets. Stuff that small I use nut drivers. Generally something that small wont be tightened to where you need a ratchet. I run into all that small stuff on equipment more than cars.
 

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I'd say that was more down to poor quality adapter socket, I've removed 19mm suspension bolts with a 3/8 socket and adapter on a 1/2 bar, they were snap on

Possibly true, the last time this happened to me I was dealing with what I had on hand, 1st to fail was a Harbor Freight special (shocker) then whatever NAPA delivered failed as well. Snap-On guy doesn't stop by my friend's shop often as I don't even officially work there and I'm probably one of only two people likely to actually hand him money. However I doubt that even a Snap-On adapter is made of significantly better steel than a 10.9 or Grade 8 bolt, so I'll stand by my handwaving.
 

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I use mine all the time with my compact 3/8's ratchet. Most of the sockets I am using are 3/8's drive so why get out another ratchet in a different drive size and have even more tools to keep track of. Unless you dont have the room which in my case usually its time to get a wrench anyways.
 
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Possibly true, the last time this happened to me I was dealing with what I had on hand, 1st to fail was a Harbor Freight special (shocker) then whatever NAPA delivered failed as well. Snap-On guy doesn't stop by my friend's shop often as I don't even officially work there and I'm probably one of only two people likely to actually hand him money. However I doubt that even a Snap-On adapter is made of significantly better steel than a 10.9 or Grade 8 bolt, so I'll stand by my handwaving.

that's why I only by adapters in impact ;) but like you said you have to make do with what you have, my hf impact adapters have held up well for $5 but then again I've only used them on my cordless impact and breaker bar not on my air impact
 

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Haha.... Yes, I've only just noticed the 3/8" in the OP's OP :lol:

My 3/8" sockets go down to 6mm...... I've never used it.
Anything below 10mm has always had the 1/4" treatment so far.

I can imagine why anyone would use a 3/8" 4mm socket... :eek2:
Those trays are a nightmare.

I'm just waiting for a really stubborn bolt to challenge my 1/2" drive 3/8" socket.
 

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I'm just waiting for a really stubborn bolt to challenge my 1/2" drive 3/8" socket.

I know what you mean.... :lol:

My 1/2" drive stuff goes dowm to 8mm.... It's a bit silly really, I can't ever forsee a time
that will come in handy... But this is GJ so I'm not allowed to sell it. :D

I now have 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 and 14mm sockets in all 3 drive sizes... Bonkers..!
 

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I know what you mean.... :lol:

My 1/2" drive stuff goes dowm to 8mm.... It's a bit silly really, I can't ever forsee a time
that will come in handy... But this is GJ so I'm not allowed to sell it. :D

I now have 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 and 14mm sockets in all 3 drive sizes... Bonkers..!

A 1/2 in drive 8mm socket? Oh I've gotta get one of those.!:thumbup:
 

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Used the 1/2 8mm on an impact gun on a crane before. I tend to have the have every slot in the rack filled up its a disease or addiction, not sure


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just along the lines of this thread, I realized the other day that I probably could take my 3/8" sockets out of my toolbox and very rarely miss them. My 1/4" drive set covers up to 13mm; it's a rare scenario where I have an application where I anticipate applying a lot of torque to a fastener and a 3/8" breaker bar or ratchet will work where a 1/2" one won't.

It's those rare occasions, though, that keep me lugging them around...
 

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But, I just bought a 3/8" drive 5/32, 3/16, 7/32, 4mm, 5mm, 6mm shallow socket from Lowes.

House stuff. The last time I went that small it was something like a nut on an outdoor light fixture.:D It was 6mm. Below that...I don't really know, they'd likely use a different setup with a screw.

Some of the bagged hardware is that small (I think).:dunno:
 
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House stuff. The last time I went that small it was something like a nut on an outdoor light fixture.:D It was 6mm. Below that...I don't really know, they'd likely use a different setup with a screw.

Some of the bagged hardware is that small (I think).:dunno:

I might use it on 2-56 or 4-40 hardware, but it seems like overkill. But then, sometimes life seems like a game where you gather things as you go, and end up using them at some time in the future...
 

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Some ford under carriage plastics have 5mm heads IIRC. I'll be damned if i'm gonna wrench those off. a 3/8 socket on a 3/8 impact would be mint. I hate adapters cluttering up the cart. Those small sizes are nice to have for interior work, dust shields, heat shields, and inner fenders sometimes.
 

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The bolts holding some alternators and starter motors together use 6mm & 1/4" bolts & nuts
 

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Well, I found the 3/8" drive 7mm at the pawn shop today... so now I need the 9 otherwise my OCD will kick in. I also just realized that my handwaving above was wrong, I should have used 1/4" for the cutoff not 3/8", so the minimum bolt size that you could make a case for needing a 3/8" drive socket would be 1/4" or 6mm, so smallest 3/8" socket would be still 10mm just by that criterion.

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yeah most 3/8" sets stop at 10mm anyway... I have a 6mm and 8mm shallow because they came with a lot of random stuff that I bought mainly to get extensions; I'm trying to see a need for them though. I just carry a 1/4" spinner handle and my sockets rather than a set of nutdrivers, takes less space that way and the handle doubles as an extension.

On really small heads/nuts, a spinner will give you a better feel for low torque than a ratchet but a nutdriver will give the best feel. Sometimes, though, you just don't have the room for them.
 

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On really small heads/nuts, a spinner will give you a better feel for low torque than a ratchet but a nutdriver will give the best feel. Sometimes, though, you just don't have the room for them.

Exactly right, I do actually have a set and then some of SAE nutdrivers but I never use them because there's not enough space in my mobile toolbox to carry them, and getting a bigger box would mean a) I couldn't lift it and b) it wouldn't fit in my Jeep.

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