Not to code...danger level?

[JJ13]

Hello,

I'm an USPS Letter Carrier and management is always talking about safety yet when we bring up legitimate issues they are almost always ignored. For example, I have a rental property with two steps up to the box where FOUR steps on the first level have broken out from underneath me over the last year. They don't drop down far (3.5") but I already have an ankle injury from two years ago that doesn't seem like it'll ever again be 100%. Thankfully it is currently vacant after evicting the previous residents but I contacted a city inspector since management cannot be bothered to send a simple letter asking the property owner to move the box over near the garage so we can avoid the bad steps. They keep trying to patch them but they are so cracked and rotted that they need to be replaced,

Another safety example where management was useless...last Fall at another house a board on a wide walkway broke loose and popped up. I almost fell and as I picked up the board, I noticed there was no supporting joist on street side. All the decking boards had screws into the end grain through the edge trim board. I placed the loose board near the mailbox only to find out the next day that the idiot homeowner lady had simply dropped it loosely back in place! Management and the union were useless when the proper reaction would have been to keep the mail on hold and contact the city inspector forcing the repair or again, moving the mailbox to the garage. If your immediate safety isn't at risk, we run the risk of discipline for failure to follow orders (to deliver). Doesn't matter that you know a board is about to fail obviously flexing and cracked 1/2 way through, until it breaks they don't deem it an immediate safety issue and then you are blamed for your injury as you weren't working safely.



On to the electrical issue...today I finally took a picture of one house that concerns me. Tomorrow I'm calling the state electrical inspectors to see if they can do anything because management will ignore me and honestly they aren't smart enough to figure out who to contact or what to do.

Last Fall this guy installed a motion sensor light on the corner of his house. I should have known he would hack it together because he's had that power strip underneath the mailbox for the last decade. I think he uses it for Christmas lights but it is always on (red light on the switch) even with nothing plugged in. I used to be the replacement carrier once a week, now I'm the regular carrier.

The wiring looks to be interior 14-2 with a plug attached to the end. He stapled it to the house running it up over the door and over to the corner. I'd be surprised if he used silicone inside the plug to keep water out and water could still get between the plug and the outlet onto the blades.

I see a square, interior outlet cover but can't tell if the outlet is a GFCI. I'd also bet the breaker panel is an ancient Federal Pacific which are known for the breakers not tripping open when they should.

So I'm left dealing with this myself hoping he doesn't figure out who reported him but everybody that has seen the picture agrees it is NOT safe. BTW, the mailbox is aluminum and this area gets wet despite it being on the east side of the house and slightly under the roof overhang.

Thoughts? Am I over-reacting and only dangerous in heavy rain?

 

[PCustoms]

Wow.

Ever think you need to back off a little bit?

 

[ddawg16]

Contact your local building and safety.....i.e., the same guys you would go to get a building permit.

Most cities now have an internet portal to allow you to make an anonymous report.

 

[JJ13]

The local cities don't deal with electrical. I called a few days ago to schedule the final inspections for my new A/C unit and the city only does the mechanical inspection. They gave me a number for the state electrical inspector and I'll see what he says or if I can email him that picture.

 

[Strouty]

You kinda sound like the mailman we used to have. He would leave a note in our mailbox saying that he couldn't deliver our mail, because there was too much snow on the steps, kind of hard to understand how you can put the notice in the mailbox, but not the mail. Then he would put a notice that we were not getting our mail due to the neighbors "dangerous" dog. Now the letter carriers leave mail outside on our steps, then on the floor in the porch, then on the couch in the porch. It has gotten to the point that I think we don't have any mail when they put the mail in the actual box.

 

[mm08822]

Shred the bills, deliver the junk.

 

[Caddybill]

I am a residential service tech. Almost all of my work is in the basement. At my last company if I refused to go down the stairs due to an unsafe condition the company would just keep sending another guy until someone did it without refusing.

 

[Nick Danger]

If you refuse to deliver because of an unsafe stairway, and the customer complains, what happens then?

 

[MikeinNorthWales]

I'm torn on this one, because I think you deserve to have a safe environment in which to work. You should not be required to do something that will get you injured.

Your remedy in these cases is to report it to your supervisor(s), and your union should get involved if needed. The mail gets stopped until the problem no longer poses a safety risk to you. This is the system in place in your contract, correct?

Your remedy is NOT to act as a defacto federal inspector reporting to a state agency that performs electrical inspections, or to the local municipality that performs other inspections.

Do you live in the town? Do you want someone with no authority doing drive-by inspections of your property? People talk. You will be found out.

There should be a way to escalate the issue in your contract. Do that. Don't take it out on the public because you don't want to raise a stink and make your work life difficult or because your union reps ****.

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[LXCam]

I'm a sparky by trade and have provided expert testimony in two death cases. Both of them being related to ground issues. One of them is very reminiscent of what you have stated. Guy had a metal pole at his gate entrance not attached to the chain link fencing with a mercury vapor barnyard fixture hung on it. The pole wasn't grounded. The hot lead was shorted to the pole but because it wasn't grounded it did not trip the breaker. Some poor guy comes over one nice wet day and while leaning against the fence grabs the pole. At first they just thought it a typical heart attack. It wasn't till after the autopsy that electrocution was ruled the root cause.

Honestly unless you were soaked to the bone and somehow grounded (wet shoes isn't normally conductive enough) you'd never know if there was an issue or you might feel a little tingle. However that's a very unsafe condition and I don't feel you're over reacting in the least. This guys a ***** and who knows what other half assed electrical work he's done.

Like Ddawg suggested. Contact the local building department or code enforcement.

 

[JJ13]

If you refuse to deliver because of an unsafe stairway, and the customer complains, what happens then?

In the past management tells me to hold the mail. Then they take weeks if they ever go out to check the situation and the customer gets angry at me. Or they tell me to be safe out one side of their mouth while ordering me to resume delivery out the other side.

The union steward is in management's back pocket and the local union branch guys are just about worthless in my experience. They'll hop around on the stairs and even if they are rotted, cracked (definition of broken) if they don't fail they'll support management and tell me unless it's an immediate emergency and I'm in dire need of calling 911, I have to obey management's orders.

Then, when somebody does get hurt later, it's the carrier's fault for not working safely. It's a catch 22 situation. That's why I'm going around management and going to contact the state electrical inspector. If he deems it safe, nothing will be done and the homeowner will probably be none the wiser. If it is unsafe, they will try and get it removed or installed properly. I'm really not trying to over-react and cause problems, I've just seen too many carriers hurt and needing work through the pain and/or fight to get surgery covered and suffering the rest of their careers. I don't want to become one of them. After 13 years, I am feeling all the minor injuries and I still have another 14-18 years to go (57-62).

 

[MikeinNorthWales]

From LX

"Honestly unless you were soaked to the bone and somehow grounded..."

Well, he IS a letter carrier. Neither rain nor sleet nor snow, etc...

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[LXCam]

From LX

"Honestly unless you were soaked to the bone and somehow grounded..."

Well, he IS a letter carrier. Neither rain nor sleet nor snow, etc...

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Hahaha, right!

 

[JJ13]

I'm torn on this one, because I think you deserve to have a safe environment in which to work. You should not be required to do something that will get you injured.

Your remedy in these cases is to report it to your supervisor(s), and your union should get involved if needed. The mail gets stopped until the problem no longer poses a safety risk to you. This is the system in place in your contract, correct?

Your remedy is NOT to act as a defacto federal inspector reporting to a state agency that performs electrical inspections, or to the local municipality that performs other inspections.

Do you live in the town? Do you want someone with no authority doing drive-by inspections of your property? People talk. You will be found out.

There should be a way to escalate the issue in your contract. Do that. Don't take it out on the public because you don't want to raise a stink and make your work life difficult or because your union reps ****.

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That should be the way it works but management is too busy doing clerk work in the mornings and helping customers during the day plus filling out reports that they don't respond. I filled out a safety report where there are four broken steps and a few more ready to fail. They are supposed to respond and return my copy within 24 hours...tomorrow it'll be two weeks with no communication. I've talked with the safety officer and gotten minimal information through her. That's ok because it's currently vacant but this has been an issue for 1.5 years and if I'm on my weak ankle when the next one breaks, or I slip and fall on snowy/icy steps as it breaks out, I'm the one that gets blamed as well as having to suffer through the injury.

My brother asked "at his point, shouldn't they be able to open a manual and read how to deal with situations or contact upper management for guidance". USPS can demand they move the box (two nails/screws) so we don't have to walk on the deteriorated stairs but they don't seem willing to do this. It's a rental property, do you really think the next customer is going to care that the box is just before the steps at the garage door instead of on top by the front door?

The only people that can address the situation are the city inspectors. I can't imagine the owner will be able to get new residents with four broken steps but you never know. The city can fine the owner and force repairs or maybe shut the rental down.

The only reason I'm contacting inspectors is because management and the union have failed me in the past and I don't want to suffer another injury because of their inaction. It's not that hard to hold the mail and demand the box be moved to avoid unsafe delivery.

If a dog is threatening us (even if charging us repeatedly while leashed) the mailbox can be moved to the street. If the owner doesn't want to move it, then they can pay for a post office box. It sounds harsh but some people just don't get it. A guy I started with was nearly killed by two year old pitbulls. He knew they were on the property and as he walked past the house, they burst out the unlatched storm door as the residents were moving stuff in/out of the house. Other residents tried to stop the dogs but couldn't and Police shot the dogs when they arrived and the dogs charged them. The carrier spent 2-3 hours in ER surgery with more than 100 stitches. If he weren't 6'6, 275+ pounds, and ex-military tough, he probably wouldn't have survived.

Dogs are taken seriously but stairs and other issues aren't taken seriously even if they have previously caused an injury. They just don't have the power or knowledge and fail to solve the safety issues which is why most carriers **** it up and just continue until they are too broken in hopes of making it to retirement.

Like another person said, if he refused to go down the stairs to fix the electrical, the company would just send other workers until somebody went down (hopefully fully aware of the issue). It's worse for us because they'll often order us to continue delivering despite the safety issue. I've seen them take a truck that has a broken seatbelt or another time with bad brakes and pass it off to a new, temporary carrier hiding what they're doing from both the carrier that reported the truck needing repairs as well as not telling the new carrier there's an issue. It's a **** show in the office with most management but I enjoy being on my own outdoors all day.

 

[JJ13]

I'm a sparky by trade and have provided expert testimony in two death cases. Both of them being related to ground issues.
One of them is very reminiscent of what you have stated. Guy had a metal pole at his gate entrance not attached to the chain link fencing with a mercury vapor barnyard fixture hung on it. The pole wasn't grounded. The hot lead was shorted to the pole but because it wasn't grounded it did not trip the breaker. Some poor guy comes over one nice wet day and while leaning against the fence grabs the pole. At first they just thought it a typical heart attack. It wasn't till after the autopsy that electrocution was ruled the root cause.

Honestly unless you were soaked to the bone and somehow grounded (wet shoes isn't normally conductive enough) you'd never know if there was an issue or you might feel a little tingle. However that's a very unsafe condition and I don't feel you're over reacting in the least. This guys a ***** and who knows what other half assed electrical work he's done.

Like Ddawg suggested. Contact the local building department or code enforcement.

Thank you for your expert opinion. I have read being shocked from arm to arm causes the current to pass through the heart. Wow, this reminds me of the summer house that my grandfather built in Florida (we lived in Ohio). He rented it out short term when he wasn't there on vacation. He was a carpenter and he must have messed up the wiring because if you grabbed the sink and touched the stove (or maybe it was the refrigerator), you'd get a NASTY shock. Thankfully nobody ever died and once you got zapped, you learned never to touch both at the same time ever again.

I also didn't think I was over-reacting but I tend to suffer a bit higher anxiety than average. That's why I posted the picture here before contacting the inspector. I know USPS management cannot be expected to know about building codes but they are not smart enough (or far too busy keeping their jobs and bloated upper management happy) to even figure out how to deal with any situation outside the building. Hell, unfortunately, even those with 30 years experience often have no clue how to handle situations. I guess that's why they asked me for years to join them until they realized I wanted nothing to do with USPS mis-management!

Hopefully the inspector can get this wiring mess cleaned up. I don't see anything else metal that I'd make contact with but maybe I'll curtail his delivery if it's raining and I'm soaking wet.

 

[driftpin]

Send a letter about your structural issue, or your electrical issue to your shop steward requesting that it be sent to management. If the shop steward isn't going to deal with it, contact your state representative for the union and request them to research this. Do you have any pictures? Yes, I see the one. Get more. Your work environment should be safe. If it isn't it needs to be corrected.

I think that sending a request to the state union body should get the shop steward on-point. You pretty-much have to go through your local first, but if they aren't forthcoming, that's when you contact the state union rep. Be aware this is sometimes like kicking the hornet's nest, but you pay dues, you i.d.'ed a safety hazard, the homeowner isn't fixing it. Time to make the people to-whom you pay your dues earn their pay.

In this day and age, you've been 'deputized' to see and to report things that are a threat to the country, I believe that you could take that to mean your workplace shouldn't have problems that endanger your safety. Some people are going to say, "way-out of line there, buster, MYOB!" I choose to ignore those who ignore your safety in the workplace.

On fire/rescue, when we were on a call, EMS or fire, if we saw something that needed to be addressed, I wouldn't hesitate to contact the building dept. or social services to have them address a dangerous building condition or someone needing services.

 

[MikeinNorthWales]

I'm going to agree with driftpin because that is exactly what I meant with my comments. Push the issue with your employer and union through the entire process. If you don't, they will say you didn't follow procedures and went rogue. That includes the next level of union reps, as driftpin stated. That's why they collect a check.

The extra stuff I added probably clouded it a bit. FWIW, I'm a union glazer. Safety is REALLY important in my trade. Follow the procedure. You don't want both sides against you.

Oh, and I'm a fire chief, so I get that part, too.

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[bubinga]

Wow.

Ever think you need to back off a little bit?

No, why should he back off?
Sounds like a danger to me.
Maybe the electrical is not a danger to him, but the steps are.
Do you want to see the man get hurt?

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[Showkey]

No, why should he back off?
Sounds like a danger to me.
Maybe the electrical is not a danger to him, but the steps are.
Do you want to see the man get hurt?

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Cuz the mail service has their own issues ........like delivering the mail to the right box on time. Get that right before minding someone else’s business.

As far as not getting hurt .......don’t use the stairs that’s where it starts and ends.

 

[bubinga]

Cuz the mail service has their own issues ........like delivering the mail to the right box on time. Get that right before minding someone else’s business.

As far as not getting hurt .......don’t use the stairs that’s where it starts and ends.

Whatever

 

[ard]

There is a good reason the postal service will eventually disappear.

These jobs are so mindless and low skilled that the employees spend their time studying every detail in their contracts and work environments and manufacturing outrage, issues and claims.

This guy is a nut job- chasing after imagined 'electrical violations' that have nothing to do with his mailbox access.

If I was management, Id be on this guy like a hawk- write him up and bounce him out.

 

[redneckcharlie]

Sorry, but this is a great example of what is wrong with our country. I think your postal customers should be as mindfull of your job performance as you are of the state of the properties you deliver mail to. Im actually surprised you leave the house without a helmet and protective suit.

 

[tfi racing]

Yay OP-good for you. Just remember one thing. Everyone just loves a rat,especially a look at me whiny one...

 

[disston]

Put his mail, packages, etc, in a plastic bag and throw them onto the porch.

I live in a house that is very unfriendly to anything from the state, county or city. But we understand. We want our packages and such. We will work with you.

 

[NORDFORD]

For crying out loud. Watch where you walk. That’s basically rule #1 from the time you wake up until you lay down for bed. Skip the step. Walk around it. Knock on the door? Ask the property resident for the landlords contact info? Our mail carrier is the same way. Painted our railing one Saturday morning. Put a wet paint sign on it. He didn’t deliver the mail that day because he couldn’t use the railing...2 steps. Also the same guy who wouldn’t deliver when the snow got piled up over 6”. The sidewalk and driveways are always cleared, I do most of them. I’m talking 6” on the grass. He refused to use the sidewalks, insisting if he didn’t use the grass as a shortcut, he’d never get his route done. I am so glad I moved, however I got someone just a little less annoying...

 

[ripperd]

... and now you wonder why the postal service instituted the rule that in all new developments mail delivery is to a central neighborhood cluster mailbox system?

 

[bubinga]

I worked for a temp agency reading electric meters.
The reason they needed a temp, was because the regular reader went up a flight of stairs, and the whole flight of stairs collapsed. He was off on comp for 6 months.
The safety issues need to be addressed.

 

[bczygan]

In the past management tells me to hold the mail. Then they take weeks if they ever go out to check the situation and the customer gets angry at me. Or they tell me to be safe out one side of their mouth while ordering me to resume delivery out the other side.

The union steward is in management's back pocket and the local union branch guys are just about worthless in my experience. They'll hop around on the stairs and even if they are rotted, cracked (definition of broken) if they don't fail they'll support management and tell me unless it's an immediate emergency and I'm in dire need of calling 911, I have to obey management's orders.

Then, when somebody does get hurt later, it's the carrier's fault for not working safely. It's a catch 22 situation. That's why I'm going around management and going to contact the state electrical inspector. If he deems it safe, nothing will be done and the homeowner will probably be none the wiser. If it is unsafe, they will try and get it removed or installed properly. I'm really not trying to over-react and cause problems, I've just seen too many carriers hurt and needing work through the pain and/or fight to get surgery covered and suffering the rest of their careers. I don't want to become one of them. After 13 years, I am feeling all the minor injuries and I still have another 14-18 years to go (57-62).

You work for the PO!!! All this is SOP!

Relax, get some medication and try not to go Postal!

My brother worked for the PO and killed himself.

And don't work here in Detroit. Many of the entry steps are dangerous and collapsing.

Bill

 

[walrus]

I'm a sparky by trade and have provided expert testimony in two death cases. Both of them being related to ground issues. One of them is very reminiscent of what you have stated. Guy had a metal pole at his gate entrance not attached to the chain link fencing with a mercury vapor barnyard fixture hung on it. The pole wasn't grounded. The hot lead was shorted to the pole but because it wasn't grounded it did not trip the breaker. Some poor guy comes over one nice wet day and while leaning against the fence grabs the pole. At first they just thought it a typical heart attack. It wasn't till after the autopsy that electrocution was ruled the root cause.

Honestly unless you were soaked to the bone and somehow grounded (wet shoes isn't normally conductive enough) you'd never know if there was an issue or you might feel a little tingle. However that's a very unsafe condition and I don't feel you're over reacting in the least. This guys a ***** and who knows what other half assed electrical work he's done.

Like Ddawg suggested. Contact the local building department or code enforcement.

C Store bathroom, light switch, yoke not grounded, plastic box. Metal entry door, somehow grounded, wood frame building so...? Have a hold of door and shut off switch, finger touches screw on switch plate, wham 120 volts. Not sure how switch was allowing voltage to yoke as I couldn't get continuity
with ohm meter but I sure could get 120 volts with voltmeter to door whether light was on or off. No one got hurt but its why steel parts need to be bonded

 

[ben5243]

Sorry, but there's no reasonable expectation of privacy on the front porch of your house. If you're going to staple NM cable to your siding and terminate it into a plug, anyone can contact the AHJ. ANYONE. Extension cords should not be used as permanent wiring and NM cable is only allowed for specific uses. You should not feel guilty about reporting something in plain sight like that, especially if you have to step foot on the structure daily. It's not like you're peeking into windows and reporting missing outlet plates...
My neighbor's house is rotting away and he uses orange extension cord all over the outside and over the roof to power motion lights. I'm not going to call anyone about it but if I had to go on his house everyday and walk on his roof I'd refuse and report it. I'm not going to put myself at risk so someone else can be lazy.
The people on here saying "watch your step and shut up" clearly have never been injured from someone else's negligence and spent days/weeks/months requiring help getting around or unable to work.

If you want to live in seclusion and never interact with anyone and let your property fall apart or build junk that's not up to code, I don't have any issues with that. You should be free to cause yourself as much harm as you want and no one should protect you from your own stupidity. But if you expect someone to provide a service to you and go onto your property to bring you your mail, that's a benefit that comes from being part of society and you have to follow the rules. At least enough to allow that person to do their job without feeling unsafe. All the OP wants is the guy to move the mailbox.

 

[Tracs]

Pre-existing injurys? check
Management won't listen? check
Crooked union head? check
Files multiple complaints? check

Sounds to me this guy is a chronic complainer who is one disability claim from "winning the stay at home jackpot? I bet the postal service and union try and stay as far from this guy as possible. He is defiantly known as "that guy" at work.

There was just a thread about someone getting gas meter safety posts installed on his property with no prior knowledge or permission.

The going theory is that a mailman/meter reader stuck his nose into business that didn't concern him.

The OP clearly states he is one of those people who do just that.

Dude you put paper into a box. Do it, mind your own business and move on.

 

[bubinga]

Pre-existing injurys? check
Management won't listen? check
Crooked union head? check
Files multiple complaints? check

Sounds to me this guy is a chronic complainer who is one disability claim from "winning the stay at home jackpot? I bet the postal service and union try and stay as far from this guy as possible. He is defiantly known as "that guy" at work.

There was just a thread about someone getting gas meter safety posts installed on his property with no prior knowledge or permission.

The going theory is that a mailman/meter reader stuck his nose into business that didn't concern him.

The OP clearly states he is one of those people who do just that.

Dude you put paper into a box. Do it, mind your own business and move on.

Maybe the 0P is going overboard, but I think some of his concerns are valid.
Ok, maybe the electrical won't hurt him, and he should "look the other way" (he is not an city inspector after all)
But steps he has to walk out, I think he has a valid point.
Remember, the fellow I filled in for reading meters, was off on comp for 6 months, because the staircase collapsed.
He was just minding his business, and doing his job.
Men and woman working a "route job" need to be able to safely enter the property.
Not trying to "stir the pot" J.M.O.

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[exranger06]

Those postal workers are a wacky bunch aren't they?

 

[GRB]

In all my years of different houses and the three businesses that I own, I have only seen one mailman that wasn't totally defective. Grow up, get off your lazy **** and do your job, and stop complaining!

 

[PCustoms]

 

[bjcouche]

I'll refrain from judging the OP, since I don't know him. What I can offer is my opinion that the electrical issues that he showed would not concern me unless the metal mailbox was mounted to aluminum siding... Everything you do in life has some sort of risk, just getting out of bed has risk. I would place less risk on the electrical issue and much more on rotten stairs, porches, dogs, etc. You can get seriously injured by falling through a porch. I had a relative that had a step give way under their OWN deck (didn't realize that step was bad). Not only did they have falling injuries but severe lacerations from the nails that sliced their foot and leg as it went through the step. Caused several months recovery, bad infections, and lasting issues.
I can certainly sympathize with a mail carrier who has to deal with stairs, porches, etc in all levels of disrepair. I liked the idea of placing the mail in a bag and tossing it at the door so as not to set foot on the porch, but there's probably some mail security code against that... Why people don't move their mailbox? Some people are just too lazy, others think it's the landlords job, others it just doesn't occur to, and still others wouldn't know which direction to turn the screwdriver to mount the box...
To the OP, sometimes you just have to do your best to protect yourself, but still get the job done. Your situation as a mail carrier is similar to most jobs in the manufacturing industry, so don't think for a minute the grass is greener elsewhere. The boss gives you your daily task, the safety officer tells you what PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) you need to wear to do your job. You tell the boss you can't get the job done in the allotted time due to the physical restrictions the PPE imposes... Boss tells you to get the task done or they will find someone who can. The companies personnel safety program really isn't really there to protect the employees so much as it is to reduce the companies LIABILITY risk.
Picture trying to do your mail route wearing a full body attack dog training suit. Frankly I'm surprised OSHA hasn't mandated that one yet.

 

[Backwodsurvivor]

I just realized why me neighbor cant get his nose out of my business...He's a FEDEX driver!

 

[Hilltopmasonry]

Send a letter about your structural issue, or your electrical issue to your shop steward requesting that it be sent to management. If the shop steward isn't going to deal with it, contact your state representative for the union and request them to research this. Do you have any pictures? Yes, I see the one. Get more. Your work environment should be safe. If it isn't it needs to be corrected.

I think that sending a request to the state union body should get the shop steward on-point. You pretty-much have to go through your local first, but if they aren't forthcoming, that's when you contact the state union rep. Be aware this is sometimes like kicking the hornet's nest, but you pay dues, you i.d.'ed a safety hazard, the homeowner isn't fixing it. Time to make the people to-whom you pay your dues earn their pay.

In this day and age, you've been 'deputized' to see and to report things that are a threat to the country, I believe that you could take that to mean your workplace shouldn't have problems that endanger your safety. Some people are going to say, "way-out of line there, buster, MYOB!" I choose to ignore those who ignore your safety in the workplace.

On fire/rescue, when we were on a call, EMS or fire, if we saw something that needed to be addressed, I wouldn't hesitate to contact the building dept. or social services to have them address a dangerous building condition or someone needing services.

As the Vice President of a local I agree with this, if your local union is not representing you then contact the regional office and express your concerns about your local not properly representing its members

Management doesn’t care about your safety until you get hurt and file a claim, then you should have “followed the safest coarse” putting it on you

your union is supposed to be the one to put pressure on management for safety or health related issues

I had to build a new brick mailbox for a customer onetime because it was 3 inches too far from the street and the mail carrier wouldn’t deliver the mail because it was out of spec causing them too far of a reach from the truck

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[nadogail]

IMHO, the OP should not have to tred on a rickety or cracked step.

 

[Strouty]

I want to see pictures of these steps.